Evidence from ROC or the whole marriage?

[Stevephoto 230]

It is time to prepare or package for Joan's N-400. We are filing under the 3-year rule:

If you are applying for naturalization on the basis of marriage to a U.S. citizen, send the following four items:

1. Evidence that your spouse has been a U.S. citizen for the last three years: Birth certificate (if your spouse never lost citizenship since birth), or Naturalization certificate, or Certificate of Citizenship, or The inside of the front cover and signature page of your spouse's current U.S. passport, or Form FS-240, 'Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America', and
2. Your current marriage certificate; and

3. Proof of termination of all prior marriages of your spouse-divorce decree(s), annulment(s), or death certificate(s); and

4. Documents referring to you and your spouse:
Tax returns, bank accounts, leases, mortgages, or birth certificates of children, or Internal Revenue Service (IRS)-certified copies of the income tax forms that you both filed for the past three years, or

An IRS tax return transcript for the last three years.

We have always front-loaded every application so far with no problem, so we are going to interpret the "OR" as "AND" whenever possible. USCIS already has a huge file on us. Do we send the marriage information spanning the whole 3-years (like ROC again) or just from year 3 (after ROC)?

Salamat!

[Cheezees 1,514]

I would submit the last 3 years not just the year after the ROC. Like you said, if you are choosing 4a, it's like the ROC all over again.

[Stevephoto 230]

I would submit the last 3 years not just the year after the ROC. Like you said, if you are choosing 4a, it's like the ROC all over again.

Yeah, you are right....and again....I thought you'd say that! Good thing we have a complete copy of what we submitted for the ROC---I guess we will just add some things to bring it up to date! This WILL be over soon, right? (Don't answer that!) Salamat Cheezees!

[Cheezees 1,514]

This WILL be over soon, right?

I see like to makes jokes

Salamat to you and Joan!

[Stevephoto 230]

I see like to makes jokes

Salamat to you and Joan!

At this point if I don't then I will ! You are a little ahead of us, Cheezees, but this is both of our last step in a long and not fun process. Keep us posted on when you get passed the interview and the remarkable oath ceremony (last comment sincere, not sarcastic--it will be a great day for your family and for us!)

[Cheezees 1,514]

I see like to makes jokes

Salamat to you and Joan!

OMG, my autocorrect wasn't even English!

"I see you like to make jokes". I have no excuse. English is my only language.

[Cheezees 1,514]

At this point if I don't then I will ! You are a little ahead of us, Cheezees, but this is both of our last step in a long and not fun process. Keep us posted on when you get passed the interview and the remarkable oath ceremony (last comment sincere, not sarcastic--it will be a great day for your family and for us!)

Yes, I want to too. The May N-400 filers are a mess. USCIS transitioned to the new electronis system that is supposed to be more efficient. Only, they have stalled all of our applications to take care of all of those under the "old" paper only system. So people who filed after me but with the paper only system already had their interviews and I'm stuck kicking myself. Such is life.....I mean USCIS!

[Stevephoto 230]

OMG, my autocorrect wasn't even English!

"I see you like to make jokes". I have no excuse. English is my only language.

That's funny...look at it again...I thought it was perfect given the context!!!!

[TBoneTX 45,580]

Of the smorgasbord of choices, we sent only tax transcripts and did fine.

For this stage of the process, you're completely safe in interpreting "or" as "or."

[RonnieKris 26]

My wife and I filed with three year tax transcripts and her sister filed with children's birth certificates.

[Stevephoto 230]

Yes, I want to too. The May N-400 filers are a mess. USCIS transitioned to the new electronis system that is supposed to be more efficient. Only, they have stalled all of our applications to take care of all of those under the "old" paper only system. So people who filed after me but with the paper only system already had their interviews and I'm stuck kicking myself. Such is life.....I mean USCIS!

UGH! What a pain...

...so there is a new electronic system out there for filing the N-400?

My wife and I filed with three year tax transcripts and her sister filed with children's birth certificates.

Of the smorgasbord of choices, we sent only tax transcripts and did fine.

For this stage of the process, you're completely safe in interpreting "or" as "or."

Salamat to both of you!

[rascalflatt 6]

Hi Cheezees

Can you explain what you mean by "new electronic filing"....as far as I know this N-400 still needs to be completed and mailed in to a physical address....?

Yes, I want to too. The May N-400 filers are a mess. USCIS transitioned to the new electronis system that is supposed to be more efficient. Only, they have stalled all of our applications to take care of all of those under the "old" paper only system. So people who filed after me but with the paper only system already had their interviews and I'm stuck kicking myself. Such is life.....I mean USCIS!

[Cheezees 1,514]

Hi Cheezees

Can you explain what you mean by "new electronic filing"....as far as I know this N-400 still needs to be completed and mailed in to a physical address....?

Hi,

It seems that with the newest version of the N-400 (and the G-1145 form), we could not only receive texts/emails of our case updates, but also track or cases online. I can sign in and see the documents I have sent with my application (so I know exactly what was sent and what was received). We can also print out the notices that they mail to our homes in case we lose them. So I was able to print out a copy of my biometrics notice before it even arrived in the mail. I thought it was fantastic! But then all our cases (which start with "IOE...") have stalled.

The paper-only applications via the old version of the form (by paper only I mean you cannot actually view the document online and your case number starts with "NBC..." so you wait for it in the mail) who sent in their applications after the ones with the newer form are being processed first. I had a student over the summer who applied after me with the older form since it had not yet expired. She received her biometrics notice and within a week received her "in-line" notice as well as her "interview scheduled" notice. She already interviewed on August 10 and is wondering why I'm still stuck in the biometrics phase.

[rascalflatt 6]

OK thanks for clarifying. I think this part of the process depends a lot on the speed of your local field office too.

[Stevephoto 230]

Hi,

It seems that with the newest version of the N-400 (and the G-1145 form), we could not only receive texts/emails of our case updates, but also track or cases online. I can sign in and see the documents I have sent with my application (so I know exactly what was sent and what was received). We can also print out the notices that they mail to our homes in case we lose them. So I was able to print out a copy of my biometrics notice before it even arrived in the mail. I thought it was fantastic! But then all our cases (which start with "IOE...") have stalled.

The paper-only applications via the old version of the form (by paper only I mean you cannot actually view the document online and your case number starts with "NBC..." so you wait for it in the mail) who sent in their applications after the ones with the newer form are being processed first. I had a student over the summer who applied after me with the older form since it had not yet expired. She received her biometrics notice and within a week received her "in-line" notice as well as her "interview scheduled" notice. She already interviewed on August 10 and is wondering why I'm still stuck in the biometrics phase.

The waiting game definitely stinks. I hope your wait ends on a positive note soon.