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N-400 "5 years back" questions when filing under the 3-year rule

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Filed: Country: Poland
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It's that time again when I have to resume my dealings with the beloved USCIS! As my eligibility window opens within a couple of days, I started filling out the N-400 form, and i'm puzzled. I will be filing under the 3-year rule, yet there are a bunch of questions asking for history 5 years back. Some of these questions are asked specifically to establish my eligibility, for instance, the "Time outside the United States" section. As an example, if I were to consider the whole 5 year period, I would have to report an exorbitant amount in the "total days" field. Plus, I don't even think one could qualify any travel before my K-1 entry as "trips outside the United States".

How did you, fellow 3-year rule filers, handle these questions about residence, work, and travel outside of the u.s.?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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What I did is cross out the 5 and write in 3, and fill it in for 3 years (well, slightly more than 3 in my case as we didn't file exactly 90 days before the 3 years).

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Thank you for putting this question up! I'm filling mine in now and completely stumped! Especially as I know they have all of my details for before my arrival.

Touched 01/09/2012
NOA1 01/19/2012
NOA2 05/01/2012
Medical 05/25/2012
Paid visa fees 06/13/2012
Pack 3 sent: 06/06/2012
Interview: 07/27/2012
Visas received: 08/03/2012
One way ticket booked! 08/09/2012

Wedding date! 17th August

AOS timeline
Package sent by overnight UPS 11/15/2012
Package signed for at 10am 11/16/2012
Text and Email NOA 11/29/2012
I-797C for I-485, I-765, I131 12/03/2012 (mailed on 11/29/2012)
Biometrics appointment 01/18/2013
EAD/ AP approval via email 01/16/2013
Notice of card production 01/24/2013
Notice of card in the mail 01/25/2013
Cards received 01/28/2013

Chased I-485 by email case update request 07/25/2013
Email received confirming card production 07/29/2013

Conditions Removal AOS

Package completed 06/04/2015

Package sent by overnight UPS 06/05/2015

NOA received by mail 06/13/2015

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Filed: Country: Poland
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No problem, I'm curious as well. On one hand, crossing things out of the form doesn't sound legitimate, but on the other hand, I think they only care about the last 3 years in our cases. Anyhow, I would love to see others chime in as well!

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I filed based on 3 years as well, but filled it out to 5 years. However, I've been in the US since 2007. I didn't make any big trips or have summer vacations after Dec 2010, which is where I filled out until.

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Adjustment of Status from H-1B, Family-Based
07/26/2012 - 10/18/2012: 85 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Removal of Conditions
07/22/2014 - 11/14/2014: 116 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Naturalization
02/03/2016 - 05/31/2016 : 119 Days from Application Received to Oath Ceremony.

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OK. I still think I'm just going for the 3 years. As there's no relevance to my UK employment, housing details etc. And seeing as someone has already used that route and been approved, but each to their own!

Touched 01/09/2012
NOA1 01/19/2012
NOA2 05/01/2012
Medical 05/25/2012
Paid visa fees 06/13/2012
Pack 3 sent: 06/06/2012
Interview: 07/27/2012
Visas received: 08/03/2012
One way ticket booked! 08/09/2012

Wedding date! 17th August

AOS timeline
Package sent by overnight UPS 11/15/2012
Package signed for at 10am 11/16/2012
Text and Email NOA 11/29/2012
I-797C for I-485, I-765, I131 12/03/2012 (mailed on 11/29/2012)
Biometrics appointment 01/18/2013
EAD/ AP approval via email 01/16/2013
Notice of card production 01/24/2013
Notice of card in the mail 01/25/2013
Cards received 01/28/2013

Chased I-485 by email case update request 07/25/2013
Email received confirming card production 07/29/2013

Conditions Removal AOS

Package completed 06/04/2015

Package sent by overnight UPS 06/05/2015

NOA received by mail 06/13/2015

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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yeah I did all the questions for 3 years only.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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I crossed the 5 years out & answered for the last 3 years as well.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I gave them my information from the time I entered and resided in the US. I also filed based on the 3 yr rule. I had no problems with my application.

NATURALIZATION -WOOOHOO

Final paperwork sent to lawyer - 14-Dec-2015

GC-Date: Resident Since 02/13/2013

Sent: N-400 Sent 12/21/2015
NOA: 12/24/2015

Biometrics: 01/20/2016
In Line: 01/25/2016
Int Ltr: 01/28/2016
Interview: 03/08/2016
Oath: 04/14/2016
Field Office: Buffalo NY

I am a US Citizen!!!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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My wife filed under the 3 year rule but had been here for 5 years, 1 month when she filed (not all 5 as an LPR b/c it took 11 months to get her GC, so like 4-1/4 years as an LPR). For the 5 year history, she started counting from the day she left Colombia and arrived in the U.S. Doing so, she may have even listed the extra month beyond the 5 years since her arrival. I doubt it'll be a big deal either way.

N-400

Feb. 12, 2016 - Sent N-400 to USCIS (3-year rule)

Feb. 19, 2016 - NOA1

Mar. 14, 2016 - Biometrics

June 2, 2016 - Interview - Recommended for Approval

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Great question...my wife's eligibility is a good 3 years away (since she just got her greencard) but I'm already starting to think about the N400.

I'm surprised this topic hasn't been discussed at greater length before; I've been doing some searches but haven't yielded any results.

jkb11 - I hope you'll keep us updated on any response from USCIS when they see your form; whether there was any feedback provided in their correspondence about the cross-outs you made (from "5" to "3" years) on your form.

Cheers!

I-130 Petition sent May 8, 2015 (waited until I naturalized as a US citizen on 4/1/15)
NOA1 date May 11, 2015 (NSC)
NOA2 date Sep 15, 2015

Mailed to NVC Sep 21, 2015
NVC Received Sep 9, 2015 <--not sure about this date, I thought maybe it's the welcome letter date?
NVC Case Number Assigned Oct 9, 2015
NVC AoS Invoice online Oct 13, 2015
NVC Selected Agent online Oct 13, 2015
NVC AoS Invoice paid online Oct 14, 2015
NVC AoS Fee marked as paid on CEAC (online) Oct 19, 2015
NVC IV Invoice online Nov 3, 2015
NVC IV Fee Paid Online Nov 3, 2015
NCV IV Fee marked as paid on CEAC (online) Nov, 8 2015
NVC DS 260 Completed Nov 8, 2015
NVC AoS/IV Package Mailed Nov 20, 2015 (confirmed delivery via FedEx)
NVC Case Complete Dec 29, 2015 (confirmed by calling NVC after seeing 3 N/As on CEAC website on 12/30/2015)
NVC Case Complete email received on Jan 5, 2016
NVC Interview date scheduled on Jan 11, 2016 (confirmed by calling NVC)

Embassy:
Interview date: Feb 10, 2016

Decision: Approved

Estimated passport return date: Feb 29, 2016

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