Jeb Bush: Many illegal immigrants come out of an ‘act of love’

[Darnell 8,478]

I am sick of the Bushes and sick of Obama. Not a spit worth of difference in them. Both selling this country to Hell for votes and power.

Me Too !!!!

I'd vote for you, instead, if you chose to get on the ballot in all 50 states

[mota bhai 2,675]

There's a good chance that the choice in 2016 will be Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush. Like it or not, we'll all have to pick.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

There's a good chance that the choice in 2016 will be Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush. Like it or not, we'll all have to pick.

I am voting Libertarian. No more oh Hillary might win or you are throwing your vote away

[unsmiley 111]

Exactly. The idea that you don't like 'homosexuals' is clearly irrational and bigoted to boot. You can dislike homosexuality if you so desire, I even think that's silly but I don't have any religious hang ups to worry about, but disliking homosexuality should not lead you to dislike homosexuals, that does not make sense.

As usual, some of your post makes sense, and the rest is entirely off base.

1. I hope you are not referring to me when you say "you" in your second sentence. I am just playing devil's advocate and stimulating discussion.

2. And anyway: Who are you to judge what is irrational (or bigoted)? Again, just because you don't agree with a point of view doesn't make the opposing viewpoint irrational. One could even say your strong, visceral response to anything seemingly against what you apparently believe, is irrational. You cannot read people's minds. People also can have religious or moral objections, for example, and be completely rational.

2. Yes I agree that one could have a problem with homosexuality in concept yet get along with some (or I guess perhaps all) homosexuals.

[unsmiley 111]

There isn't a law out there that says you have to like someone. But, if you're going to speak for the people, you have to reach them. You can't call someone ugly and expect them to go to prom with you. This is why the GOP has almost no minorities in their party.

We can argue it, but then, be ready to explain the Southern Strategy, which the GOP has been using since the 60's. Also, why when the GOP goes to rural areas where white people are on welfare, they never say lazy whites. And why to this day, they continue to do so with black people and other minorities.

The fact is, the GOP knows this country is 76% white. They've flat out ignored black people and other minorities because those votes, in their eyes don't matter. The only reason they are trying to reach across the aisle, is because of Obama winning two terms.

Yes, you are making a distinction between politicians and regular folks, and I can accept that point.

I do not accept your position (that you have made in several posts) about GOP'ers referring to "lazy minorities" or something similar. I have never heard such a comment made; and I believe that such a statement would be political suicide in any state. And of course if uttered such a statement would be completely inappropriate and worthy of attack.

And personally I think many if not most people on welfare are lazy, and the majority of welfare recipients are white.

I also disagree about them ignoring black people. Actually I think it is the other way around. When over 90% vote for the other party, it is almost fruitless to reach out to them in an era of limited resources. And the Dems have strategically fostered dependency on the government, and it is almost impossible to break this cycle. In the end people are going to vote for who they believe butters their bread.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes, you are making a distinction between politicians and regular folks, and I can accept that point.

I do not accept your position (that you have made in several posts) about GOP'ers referring to "lazy minorities" or something similar. I have never heard such a comment made; and I believe that such a statement would be political suicide in any state. And of course if uttered such a statement would be completely inappropriate and worthy of attack.

And personally I think many if not most people on welfare are lazy, and the majority of welfare recipients are white.

I also disagree about them ignoring black people. Actually I think it is the other way around. When over 90% vote for the other party, it is almost fruitless to reach out to them in an era of limited resources. And the Dems have strategically fostered dependency on the government, and it is almost impossible to break this cycle. In the end people are going to vote for who they believe butters their bread.

1.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/lazy-blacks-daily-show_n_4159210.html;

A Republican precinct official in North Carolina resigned from his position Thursday, after The Daily Show aired a segment on the state's voter ID law in which he criticized "lazy black people that wants the government to give them everything."

2. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/20/paul-ryan-confronted_n_5000952.html

"The next day you said that statement was inarticulate. Well, I don’t believe that. You said what you meant," Gardner told Ryan. "Bottom line is this: This statement was not true, that’s a code word for black."

"There are people in the inner-city who are white, Hispanic, who are Armenians, Danish -- all types," he continued. "And everybody works. You got here in a car or a truck or something. Somebody from the inner city helped make that."

3. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/28/161912/sally-kern-blacks-dont-work-hard/

“We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that’s tragic, but are they in prison just because they are black or because they don’t want to study as hard in school? I’ve taught school, and I saw a lot of people of color who didn’t study hard because they said the government would take care of them.”

And there's more where that came from. This is why hard working black people refuse to vote GOP.

As for your second paragraph: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.html

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Marvin is black, so I have to trust his judgement as a black person why he does not vote GOP.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Marvin is black, so I have to trust his judgement as a black person why he does not vote GOP.

It is not only blacks who are shying away from the GOP, now that it has become the American Taliban. Many who wish to preserve America free from the nutjobs now running the GnOP are also distancing themselves from the sect.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Marvin is black, so I have to trust his judgement as a black person why he does not vote GOP.

Here's the sad thing. I agree with most of their message, smaller government, controlled spending, work hard for what you want. And for the religious angle, most minorities have a strong church background, which coincides with the GOP. So there is this nice size voting block they're pretty much crapping all over because they truly believe our votes don't matter. When you add up all Black, hispanic, Asians, and whoever is left, you're sitting at about 25-30% give or take. As unsmiley pointed out, a nice size number of White people are on government assistance, yet you will never hear lazy whites or rural neighborhood people who don't want to work. Since Reagan coined the phrase "welfare queen" and put a black face to it, Black people seem to be stuck with that picture, even though the original welfare queen was identified as white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Taylor

She has been identified from United States Census records as being Martha Miller, born in Tennessee sometime between 1925 and 1927 to Joe and Lidy Miller. In either case she was identified as being white, possibly with some Native American ancestry, although throughout her life she presented herself as being of various racial and ethnic identities, including black, Asian, Hispanic and Jewish. She also represented herself as being many different ages, with one government official stating in 1974 that "it appears she can be any age she wishes, from the early 20s to the early 50s."

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Here's the sad thing. I agree with most of their message, smaller government, controlled spending, work hard for what you want. And for the religious angle, most minorities have a strong church background, which coincides with the GOP.

The Blacks had a long association with the Republican party, more than 100 years, before they jumped ship. It is a chicken and egg question why that happened, how did a war-mongering separate-but-equal anti-labor party suddenly start appealing to civil rights leaders, labor, and the antiwar movement? Personally, I see the hand of communists like FDR, but that is just me.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The Blacks had a long association with the Republican party, more than 100 years, before they jumped ship. It is a chicken and egg question why that happened, how did a war-mongering separate-but-equal anti-labor party suddenly start appealing to civil rights leaders, labor, and the antiwar movement? Personally, I see the hand of communists like FDR, but that is just me.

I'm aware of it. The party of Lincoln is long gone. I wager once the Southern Strategy was enacted, the Dems saw an opportunity to scoop up some votes.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I'm aware of it. The party of Lincoln is long gone. I wager once the Southern Strategy was enacted, the Dems saw an opportunity to scoop up some votes.

Some Republicans historically blame the Nixon of 1960. My parents liked Ike and didn't trust Nixon. They saw JFK as some sort of inspirational leader for a post war world, and hated Johnson. A lot of folks switched sides, for better or worse, as America changed in the tumultuous sixties.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Some Republicans historically blame the Nixon of 1960. My parents liked Ike and didn't trust Nixon. They saw JFK as some sort of inspirational leader for a post war world, and hated Johnson. A lot of folks switched sides, for better or worse, as America changed in the tumultuous sixties.

The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater^[6][7] in the late 1960s.^[8] The strategy was successful in winning 5 formerly Confederate states in both the 1964 and 1968 presidential elections. It contributed to the electoral realignment of some Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the twentieth century came to a close, the Republican Party began attempting to appeal to black voters again, though with little success.

I wasn't alive back then, but I've read enough to know he had a large hand in it. If the GOP would actually focus on helping minorities and the like, they could win the votes back.

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It's not complicated why Blacks left the GOP. It happened matter of fact 50 years ago on this anniversary of the Civil Rights Act.

Southern Democrats aka Dixiecrats did not favor civil rights and split and joined forces with the GOP. Blacks left the GOP and backed Johnson and also the northern Democrats who were in favor of Civil rights.

GOP had Black people in their pocket for life after Lincoln. Like most Black families, my family was Republican. Actually many still were until the 90s. I have family who have held local and state offices who ran as Republicans. Lee Atwater and Reagan really purged most of the remaining Black people out of the party with their racially incensed rhetoric.

As Marvin said, most Blacks are religiously conservative. I was raised very much so in a Christian conservative home.

People vote for those who best represent their interests period.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Here's the sad thing. I agree with most of their message, smaller government, controlled spending, work hard for what you want. And for the religious angle, most minorities have a strong church background, which coincides with the GOP. So there is this nice size voting block they're pretty much crapping all over because they truly believe our votes don't matter. When you add up all Black, hispanic, Asians, and whoever is left, you're sitting at about 25-30% give or take. As unsmiley pointed out, a nice size number of White people are on government assistance, yet you will never hear lazy whites or rural neighborhood people who don't want to work. Since Reagan coined the phrase "welfare queen" and put a black face to it, Black people seem to be stuck with that picture, even though the original welfare queen was identified as white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Taylor

She has been identified from United States Census records as being Martha Miller, born in Tennessee sometime between 1925 and 1927 to Joe and Lidy Miller. In either case she was identified as being white, possibly with some Native American ancestry, although throughout her life she presented herself as being of various racial and ethnic identities, including black, Asian, Hispanic and Jewish. She also represented herself as being many different ages, with one government official stating in 1974 that "it appears she can be any age she wishes, from the early 20s to the early 50s."

So you agree with them on almost everything, you just don't vote for them, because the boys would not let you come to the barber shop