Concealed Carry in Illinois

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Good to see we are back to the "crime is caused by everything BUT guns" subject.

I agree. Whatever you want to attribute crime to EXCEPT guns...I agree with. It is why I am against gun laws of any type, they cannot address the REAL reasons for crime.

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Vermont is the way it is as relates to gun deaths because of heroin. Too many people shooting up to be shooting AT someone.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/vermont-heroin-capital-of-america-103280.html#.UvgyKfldWSp

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I want illegal guns off the streets too. I think any legal gun owner who knowingly provides a gun to someone who isn't legally allowed to own one be stripped of his right off right to own a firearm for life and receive a mandatory prison sentence. In severe cases, they should be publicly beheaded on pay per view.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

There are 50 states. There will always be 50 "places" and there will always be a "number 1" unless ALL states have exactly the same crime rate. And then they will ALL have the "highest crime rate" What you look at are the rates of crime before and after CC. AK has a lower crime rate that before it introduced CC. It also points out that LOW populations due not benefit a state when discussing crime RATES.

Not sure how you make this claim, since AK doesn't HAVE a CC law. ANYONE can, and always have been able to, CC or OC. Except for the 90's, AK has pretty much had a higher crime rate than the US average.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Not sure how you make this claim, since AK doesn't HAVE a CC law. ANYONE can, and always have been able to, CC or OC. Except for the 90's, AK has pretty much had a higher crime rate than the US average.

He's lying again.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

You'd think he would stop doing that.

[GandD 5,966]

So, did the stay in the ruling allow people to cc or not?

[GandD 5,966]

"The court gave 180 days before its decision will be returned to the lower court to be implemented,” said Natalie Bauer, Madigan’s spokeswoman. “That time period allows our office to review what legal steps can be taken and enables the legislature to consider whether it wants to take action."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-11/news/chi-us-appeals-court-strikes-down-states-concealedcarry-ban-20121211_1_court-strikes-appeals-court-david-sigale

[GandD 5,966]

By law, the Illinois State Police (ISP) has 180 days from July 9, 2013 to make concealed carry applications available to the public. That's about 6 months, putting the deadline in the first half of January 2014. The ISP has indicated applications will be available on its website by January 5, 2014.

After a receiving a correctly completed qualified application the ISP has 90 days, provided the applicant provides a full set of fingerprints in electronic format, to issue or deny a concealed carry license. If fingerprints are not submitted, the ISP has an additional 30 days to complete the background check and process the application.

Qualified applicants who provide fingerprints and have no objections filed with the Concealed Carry Licensing Board should expect to obtain a concealed carry license by the 2nd half of 2014.

Are out-of-state Concealed Carry permit holders granted reciprocity in Illinois?

No. Out-of-state residents who want to carry a concealed firearm on his/her person must obtain an Illinois Concealed Carry License to lawfully carry a concealed firearm in Illinois. In order for out-of-state residents to be eligible for an Illinois license, their state’s concealed carry license laws must be substantially similar to those of Illinois. The Illinois State Police will establish rules to identify the elements necessary to meet the substantially similar requirement.

However, out of state residents are granted a limited exception to lawfully carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle if they are eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence and are not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law.

If the non-resident leaves leaves his/her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle.

How will Illinois State Police (ISP) officers and local law enforcement respond to citizens who are carrying weapons?

The ISP will continue to enforce the law in effect. Citizens cannot lawfully carry concealed weapons without a valid Illinois Concealed Carry License. Citizens who carry firearms without a Concealed Carry License issued by the ISP are subject to arrest. All Illinois residents seeking to obtain a Concealed Carry License must have a valid Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card. Out-of-state residents are exempt from the FOID card requirement.

http://www.mikeunes.net/how_illinois_concealed_carry_law_works

Did I miss anything?

Edited February 10, 2014 by GandD

[spookyturtle 9,465]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-11/news/chi-us-appeals-court-strikes-down-states-concealedcarry-ban-20121211_1_court-strikes-appeals-court-david-sigale

Check this out. http://www.suntimes.com/news/20524014-761/attorney-general-asks-appeals-court-to-extend-deadline-for-conceal-carry-law.html

The reason the 7th Court gave a 180 day stay on the mandate is to prevent what Gary keeps claiming. The stay means the court ruling didn't take effect for 180 days. IL also was granted a 30 day extension on top of this. The IL legislature passed new CC laws in July of 2013. They had six month from this date to begin the CC application process which began is January. The stay preserved the old laws until the IL legislature passed new laws to comply with the ruling. Then the new laws went into effect. Otherwise there would have been complete chaos. There was NO time when there was no law in place.

If you like I can post even more links on the subject.

[GandD 5,966]

Check this out. http://www.suntimes.com/news/20524014-761/attorney-general-asks-appeals-court-to-extend-deadline-for-conceal-carry-law.html

The reason the 7th Court gave a 180 day stay on the mandate is to prevent what Gary keeps claiming. The stay means the court ruling didn't take effect for 180 days. IL also was granted a 30 day extension on top of this. The IL legislature passed new CC laws in July of 2013. They had six month from this date to begin the CC application process which began is January. The stay preserved the old laws until the IL legislature passed new laws to comply with the ruling. Then the new laws went into effect. Otherwise there would have been complete chaos. There was NO time when there was no law in place.

If you like I can post even more links on the subject.

No need, everything I'm reading says the same thing.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

http://www.mikeunes.net/how_illinois_concealed_carry_law_works

Did I miss anything?

You cannot CC in IL without an IL CC permit. You couldn't do it before the court ruling, you couldn't do it after the court ruling. You could apply for the right to do so beginning in January. Thus far permits are being processed. I'm sure there will be information available when the first batch get issued.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Some Canadians seem to think that we are on the wrong track with registration...

A Canadian news commentator has a warning for his American friends: Now that the United States has begun gun registration, get ready for gun confiscation.

Brian Lilley, the Sun News host of Byline, traded hyperbole for history to make his case. But he didn’t use Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China as examples, as one would expect.

He used the more-recent history of freedom-loving Canada — his own country, where registration quickly led to confiscation.

He predicted the same for us, despite statistics showing that as gun ownership rises, gun violence drops.

“It’s not about the guns,” he said. “It’s about the control.”

http://toprightnews.com/?p=1365 (Video at link)

[GandD 5,966]

You cannot CC in IL without an IL CC permit. You couldn't do it before the court ruling, you couldn't do it after the court ruling. You could apply for the right to do so beginning in January. Thus far permits are being processed. I'm sure there will be information available when the first batch get issued.

They can conceal carry in their car but that's it.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Some Canadians seem to think that we are on the wrong track with registration...

http://toprightnews.com/?p=1365 (Video at link)

I don't see that happening here unless the Constitution gets amended. The 2nd Amendment has stood up whenever it has been challenged.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I don't see that happening here unless the Constitution gets amended. The 2nd Amendment has stood up whenever it has been challenged.

Thus far. But we are a LONG way from when it was written.