EOR letter for interview at Guangzhou consulate

[YulingZhu 4]

Good afternoon all,

I was browsing through this site and I keep finding that you need an EOR letter at Guangzhou consulate. But I don't see that requirement any where on packet IV on their website.

Is it true that an EOR letter is required for interview at Guangzhou? Thank you for your help

[Ryan H 3,812]

Officially, it's not a requirement. However, it's a good idea to have one.

[Darnell 8,478]

You won't find it listed as a requirement from DoS or GUZ IV.

However, in blue slips issued at GUZ IV, it was a thing asked for.

Rather than be reactionary, many folk have included it with I-130 or I-129F,

then again at NVC (for spousal visas)

then again on interview day at GUZ IV

Why all of that, you ask? a relationship grows over time, so an Evolution of Relationship letter would grow over time, as well.

Never subitted one prior to interview day? That's ok - you can still submit one on interview day, in yer lass's hand to the Vice Consul, the first 20 seconds of the interview.

It's not a requirement. If'n you have red flags not addressed in submittals to USCIS (or NVC) then it's best to submit an EOR and address those red flags in the letter, on interview day.

[YulingZhu 4]

You won't find it listed as a requirement from DoS or GUZ IV.

However, in blue slips issued at GUZ IV, it was a thing asked for.

Rather than be reactionary, many folk have included it with I-130 or I-129F,

then again at NVC (for spousal visas)

then again on interview day at GUZ IV

Why all of that, you ask? a relationship grows over time, so an Evolution of Relationship letter would grow over time, as well.

Never subitted one prior to interview day? That's ok - you can still submit one on interview day, in yer lass's hand to the Vice Consul, the first 20 seconds of the interview.

It's not a requirement. If'n you have red flags not addressed in submittals to USCIS (or NVC) then it's best to submit an EOR and address those red flags in the letter, on interview day.

Thank you for the response Darnell,

you and Ryan both mentioned red flags. Such as married after first meeting, age difference is too great, set up by a family member, no english lanaguage skills etc...

Thank heavens we don't exactly fall in any of those catagories (we were not married after first time we met, our age difference is about 7 years, we were introduced by a mutual family friend and she went to college in the states so english is not a problem).

The only red flag I can think of is she was denied entry to United States this May, she was given the option to withdrew the visa. The reason she was denied is because we picked up our marriage certificate in Feb of this year and she can't convenice the CBP officer that she will leave the country.

But several ppl on this forum said this is not a big deal since she was not deported with a bann. Should I mention that in the EOR letter?

Thank you

[Darnell 8,478]

if that's a tourist visa application, done in China, it won't matter on interview day.

[Darnell 8,478]

Sorry, I reread three times and have different opinion.

She got a tourist visa, and came to USA, and was found to have immigrant intent at the POE, and was 'allowed' to turn around and depart back to China.

I would address that as a red flag in an EOR, you betcha.

[YulingZhu 4]

if that's a tourist visa application, done in China, it won't matter on interview day.

Yes, it was a tourist visa application and she got from the consulate in Shanghai

Thank you for the quick response, much appreciated :-)

[Pitaya 2,577]

Welcome to the forum. I also live on the Eastside.

I traveled to Guangzhou to provide encouragement and support for my then-fiance at her K-1 interview, yet was barred from attending the interview (per consulate policy), I gave her an EOR, inserted lengthwise in my passport, to present to the IO at the start of the interview. The IO took my passport and enclosed letter, glanced over the letter, returned my passport to her, and commented that the USC was in Guangzhou. I don't know if it helped, but I know it certainly didn't hurt our case. Guangzhou is known as a high-fraud consulate, it is my impression anything supplemental data that you can provide to the IO to support your case if a plus.

YMMV.

Happy trails, likely see you on the 405 sometime.

[PhillyJon 2]

On a phone call with the NVC on a different topic the operator said we need a letter, written by the visa applicant in Chinese and said there was more info on the DOS website. I couldn't find anything on the site. Could she have been referring to an EOR letter? I sent an email to the NVC on the topic and have been waiting 2 weeks for a reply. (That's the last time I'll try to get an answer via e-mail)

Would an EOR typically be written in Chinese?

[Ryan H 3,812]

On a phone call with the NVC on a different topic the operator said we need a letter, written by the visa applicant in Chinese and said there was more info on the DOS website. I couldn't find anything on the site. Could she have been referring to an EOR letter? I sent an email to the NVC on the topic and have been waiting 2 weeks for a reply. (That's the last time I'll try to get an answer via e-mail)

Would an EOR typically be written in Chinese?

What you were told by that operator makes no sense, I've never heard of the applicant being required to write a letter. EOR letters (while not required but as I and others have already stated, a very good idea), are typically written by the petitioner.

[Pitaya 2,577]

Agree with Ryan H, the EOR is typically written by the USC petitioner (very likely in English). The person from NVC in Portsmouth, NH is perhaps a bit confused. I would follow the instructions and directions given by the IV Unit at the US consulate in Guangzhou, China, particularly since that is where the beneficiary will have their interview.

I conversed, via email, several times with the IV unit at the Guangzhou consulate, and had good results.

YMMV.

Happy trails.

[JD & Coconut 35]

Is the EOR letter the same (except an updated version) as the explanation of meeting and relationship letter which we already submitted to CSC (twice, updated for RFE)? I was going to use the same letter and update it again (not much has changed in the last two months though).

[PhillyJon 2]

Thanks Ryan and A&B. Do you have the email for Guangzhou IV?

[Darnell 8,478]

PhillyJon - is possible the NVC TeleOperator or a NVC Supervisor was speaking of the GUZ IV P3 Supplemental Form? I've a link to that in the EP wiki page. It's a one-page form, written in Chinese, usually 'hand-filled' by the beneficiary, sent in with the DS-230. It's an ugly form... The email address for Guangzhou IV? There isn't one, that you can directly use - however, the IV Unit utilizes a web-form for email contact - here's the url:

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

JD - an EOR might be construed the same as an explanation of meeting and relationship letter. The specific label of EOR was gleaned from a report from a member at a China-Specific website, written about when writing about 'the blue slip' and the evidence asked for to overcome the blue slip.

Here's my example:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

Edited July 15, 2013 by Darnell

[JD & Coconut 35]

PhillyJon - is possible the NVC TeleOperator or a NVC Supervisor was speaking of the GUZ IV P3 Supplemental Form? I've a link to that in the EP wiki page. It's a one-page form, written in Chinese, usually 'hand-filled' by the beneficiary, sent in with the DS-230. It's an ugly form... The email address for Guangzhou IV? There isn't one, that you can directly use - however, the IV Unit utilizes a web-form for email contact - here's the url:

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/contactiv.html

JD - an EOR might be construed the same as an explanation of meeting and relationship letter. The specific label of EOR was gleaned from a report from a member at a China-Specific website, written about when writing about 'the blue slip' and the evidence asked for to overcome the blue slip.

Here's my example:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

Thanks Darnell, some info in your examples I did not include in mine and will add that when I update it.