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J2221   0

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Hello,

I'm looking for your input regarding my situation. Im a US citizen and I married my first cousin a year and a half ago. We applied and worked our way through the K3 visa. Two days ago my wife interviewed in Jerusalem, and after the interview she was given a refusal letter stating that we must live in a state other than Texas that allows first cousin marriage.

From my humble knowledge, first cousin marriages are not allowed to take place in Texas. But, Texas accepts those marriages that occurred outside. Our marriage is legal back home.

What should we do? Please help as this is very devastating for both of us.

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Texas no longer recognises marriages between first cousins since September 2005. It is actually a felony to have sex with a cousin in Texas, even a cousin by adoption.

For a marriage to be recognised for US immigration purposes it must have been legal where it was performed and legal in the place in which you intend to reside. It may have been legal in your home country, but it isn't legal in Texas and that is why you were refused.

You would need to move to another state that permits first cousins to marry if you wish to pursue this. You can find a list of those states here: http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=states

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The above answer is correct. The US Citizen Petitioner will need to move to a State where first cousin marriage is legal. I know of no way around this. Are you sure she interviewed for a K3 visa, not a CR1 visa?

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Thanks for your reply. Yes she interviewed for a k3 visa per her interview papers.

On another note, can one argue the legality of the case? I mean Texas does recognize cousin marriages that occur outside the state and don't void it.

Thanks again for your response

The above answer is correct. The US Citizen Petitioner will need to move to a State where first cousin marriage is legal. I know of no way around this. Are you sure she interviewed for a K3 visa, not a CR1 visa?

Thanks for your response. :(

Texas no longer recognises marriages between first cousins since September 2005. It is actually a felony to have sex with a cousin in Texas, even a cousin by adoption.

For a marriage to be recognised for US immigration purposes it must have been legal where it was performed and legal in the place in which you intend to reside. It may have been legal in your home country, but it isn't legal in Texas and that is why you were refused.

You would need to move to another state that permits first cousins to marry if you wish to pursue this. You can find a list of those states here: http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=states

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Don't mess with Texas.

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Unless you move to another state prior to submitting the DS230. :-)

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You live in one of the five states where marrying your cousin is a criminal offense. Move to a state where it's legal and try again...

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Is really that easy to move. To fight any legality of an issue, you will spend a boatload of monies.

Divide that boatload by half, and you have the living expenses on the two of you for the first two years.

The IV Unit is stating that IF YOU LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, they will grant the visa to her. What's holding you back, to move, really?

If I were in your shoes with a pending approval at the IV Unit, I'd be on the road already, showing a lease elsewhere and new drivers license, 2 days after receiving the info from the IV unit.

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Usually takes longer than 2 days to get a license.

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Usually takes longer than 2 days to get a license.

In California, you have 10 days to get a license once you take up residency, You will get a temporary license (paper) the same day you apply. It is used until the hard one arrives. I'm sure that's pretty much the same in any state.

BTW, it's legal in California to marry a 1st cousin.

Here is a list of State laws regarding marriages between first cousins:

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/human-services/state-laws-regarding-marriages-between-first-cousi.aspx

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Usually takes longer than 2 days to get a license.

and the receipt, given same day, is enough for the IV unit.

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In countries where 1st cousin marriage is common, the question is asked in the interview. If you lie, you can be banned for life from ever entering the USA.

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