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Ok here's my situation right now hopefully someone here can help me out..

My fiance (from China) and I have been dating for a few years now and so far she's been coming here on a B2 visa.

We want to get married soon but the question is which is the best, and most legal way of doing so.

My fiance says that me going to China, getting married there and applying for a CR1 is better. But I heard that if this visa gets denied it's going to be really tough for her to apply again. Is that true?

I read somewhere online that K1 is better for my situation. In that case she would have to come here on her current B2 visa, apply for a K1 here and getting married within 90 days. She's okay with not returning to China for a while but her concern is with legality. Because she is here on a B2, would this make it immigration fraud?

Any suggestions on which route is safer would help. We are also open to any alternate suggestions. Thanks.

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Entering the US with the preconceived intent to remain would constitute visa fraud.

If you pursued a K-1, you would file the I-129F in the normal way, wait ~8 - 10 months for it to be approved and then once it was, she would interview at the American Embassy in China for the K-1 visa. She gets the visa, enters the US, you marry within 90 days of PoE and then file to adjust her status.

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No it doesn't matter. Anyone can get married in the USA. It's coming to the USA with the intent to marry and STAY that is illegal.

Which one is better is a matter of opinion and what works for you two. :) We chose the CR1 route because the pluses for us outweighed the negatives but for others, it's the opposite. No matter what you choose it's unlikely that your fiancée would be able to stay in the USA during the whole process. I'm not sure how long someone can visit on a B2 visa.

Both processes can take from 6-12 months. A cr1 can cost significantly less if there isn't a great deal of travel for the beneficiary. But yes it requires you to be married first. China does have a modified electronic processing system but most of this process will be mailed paperwork.

There are many members here with Chinese spouses that can certainly help you out and a regional forum as well to get specific information unique to your beneficiary's country. :)

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The CR-1 / IR-1 visa is considered by many to be superior, since it automatically grants a green card upon entry to the US and you do not have to file to adjust status. It is also the cheapest option, but as stated you must be married first (in the US or elsewhere does not matter).

The K-1 is more expensive, you must marry in the US, and then you have to file for adjustment of status which will likely take the lion's share of a year by itself.

It's really up to your individual circumstances which you decide to go with.

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Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Thanks for your suggestions.. Now for another question.

Do both K1 and CR1 have a minimum income requirement and if so, how much is it? I wasn't able to find much online about this but I've heard that they're pretty strict about it.

I'm currently a pharmacy school student so as of right now I don't have much of an income (the damn tuition costs a fortune) Although after I graduate it'd be a different story. Do they allow a co-sponsor of any sort for this?

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Yes, you must meet the sponsorship requirements which is approximately $19,000 for a family of two. If the primary sponsor (the USC spouse) cannot meet this requirement then a co-sponsor can be used. Some embassies do not accept co-sponsors for a K-1, but all must accept them for a CR-1 / IR-1.

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AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Forgot to add, I heard there's some new way now to do CR-1 Online. Is that true and how much faster or safer is it to do it that way?

When the file reaches the NVC, you have the option to scan and email the required documents after the appropritate bills have been paid.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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K-1 must interview in Guangzhou .

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Right now my wife and I are glad that we went the CR1 route. For some reason the K1 process is all gummed up now. (Many people suspect it has to do with Dream Act processing, but nobody knows for sure.) Of course the same kind of issue could start hitting CR1 visas tomorrow so you never know. Here are some links a helpful person gave me a while ago that show what is happening with each process:

CR1s at California Service Center (just change the pulldown and hit submit to select another service center):

http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/monthly_filers.php?form=2&visa=3&scenter=1&option=3&sortby=2

K1s:

http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/monthly_filers.php?form=1&visa=1&scenter=1&option=3&sortby=2

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