CR1 Package Document Help (China)

[RickyW 0]

Recently my wife joined an online group of women that are going through the visa process in her home country of China. At first I thought it would be a good support group for her, however, it has become source of stress for both of us. The group tells her that she will need documents that are not on the list of CR-1 guide or anywhere else I can find. A couple of these documents include 6 months worth of my pay stubs, photo copy of my passport including the Chinese visa, a letter explaining why I am not at the interview, just to name a few. Are these normal things requested by the NVC or is this just bad advice? I want to make sure that we send all they need so we wont have any delay in the process but at the same time I don't want to bog them down with unnecessary documents to slow them down.

Any advice or experience in this matter would be very appreciated.

Thanks and Good Luck

[Ryan H 3,812]

Would this be the site you are speaking of: http://usa.bbs.net/

Darnell has a few choice words about that site.

Anyway, some of the items you speak of are either submitted with the I-130 petition, brought to the interview, or both.

If your most recent pay stub shows your income year to date (most do), then submitting 6 months of pay stubs is not necessary when you submit the Affidavit of Support paperwork to the NVC.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Ryan H

[Darnell 8,478]

Hi ! Welcome to the 001 BBS Harpies !

Historically, the ones giving advice have had 'alternative' agendas there,

to trip up anyone looking for answers and advice.

It's a game for them.

For bonus points, they win if someone follows their erroneous advice.

OTOH, this is China, Guangzhou IV, the #2 fraud IV post on the planet.

Front-loading the I-130 is a must (usually) as there's extra scrutiny at the IV unit.

But lets assume (based on what you've written) that you've not front-loaded with the I-130 submittal,

or

sent in additional stuff with the document intake at NVC. There is no gaurantee of anything being viewed or asked for on interview day, as each applicant has anywhere from 2 to 20 minutes in front of a bank teller window, for the interview.

You missed two opportunities to get stuff into the casefile, prior to a Visa Officer reviewing the file.

There is another opportunity, but it only lasts for 2 minutes, on interview day,

and that is to 'bring all that you have' for relationship evidence.

Also, GUZ IV is a bit different on evaluating/adjudicating the I-864 (All IV units are the final judge of that form, btw)

as usually one will 'pass' that part for showing 3 years of income tax statements,

and current annual income.

So they mentioned 6 months of pay stubs. Not bad in of itself, to bring those. A current pay stub, or current-ish, showing YTD, is great.

The photocopy of the passport showing your china visa stamps is for relationship evidence - ie - you made the trip to visit her (or more than 1 trip) .

Instead of the letter for 'why you can't be there' - I strongly suggest that you write up an evolution of relationship letter. Here is my sample:

EOR - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

FWIW, none of these 'extra' things are requested by NVC - they use minimal guidelines and GUZ IV uses their own guidelines - so the Harpies at 001 BBS are a bit right on that one point. GUZ IV itself doesn't publish their guidelines - we learn of what works via folk posting about denials, blue slips, 221g documents, here on vj and over at www.candleforlove.com and www.chinafamilyvisa.com and get PROACTIVE based on others' prior experiences.

If you are still at NVC stage - please note that 'adding more' only delays things at NVC by a week to 10 days.

If you are utilising NVC Electronic Processing for document intake, then this delay is minimal and SO WORTH THE EXTRA TIME AND YOUR EFFORT.

Finally, if you have red flags on yer casefile (see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/234971-red-flag-list-for-visa-denial/page__hl__appointment posts 8,9 and 10) then (IMO) you should write up a letter of attestation on each thing, showing additional documentation and evidence on each thing to support each letter of attestation.

Tell the Harpies at 001 BBS that Uncle Darnell say hullo !

Remember, 001 BBS and vj.com are volunteer related, Do It Yourself. If you want professional legal advice for Guangzhou IV for a CR-1 visa, hunt down Marc Ellis' website, call the China number, get Eunice Wang, and arrange for 1 to 2 hours of professional consulting time, nowish.

NVC EP page, in case you need it:

NVC EP - http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Electronic_Processing

Good Luck !

Edited November 8, 2012 by Darnell

[RickyW 0]

I am not sure if that is the website or not but it could be. The affidavit of support only asks for 3 year of tax returns do I need to include pay stubs?

[Darnell 8,478]

The affadavit of support also asks for 'current annual income' which can not be shown by tax returns, all tax returns are 'prior year'

so - what is your plan for showing 'current annual income' ? Don't miss that part, on the I-864 or the I-864 instructions, aye?

Since yer asking about the I-864, I have to assume that yer casefile is still at NVC and that you've maybe just only paid the AOS fee bill.

If you've not enrolled in NVC Electronic Processing, please do so this week by OPTING IN for it.

It'll take some extra time now, but shaves off 1 to 5 months after the casefile has left NVC.

Shift to NVC EP now, and you could be finished by the end of the month, having an interview date in January.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Darnell

[RickyW 0]

Thanks Darnell,

We just got our approval letter about 2 weeks ago and are now just waiting for them to send the package. However, we did all documents that were listed in the guide for this step before she went back to China. I know once we get the package they will list what they want us to send, so do you have any recommendation besides the evolution of relationship letter and what is listed that we should include?

[Darnell 8,478]

OK - your I-130 was approved in October.

Congratulations on the fast processing at USCIS-California Service Center - that's always a plus.

You need to call in to NVC , get a human, and jump start the process via telephone.

DO NOT WAIT FOR NVC to send you 'a package'.

Please read the first 2 posts at http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/397538-nvc-filers-november-2012/

clicking through to all of the links, studying the content in those links listed there.

I invite you to 'shift yer brain' a lot, into 'go fast' mode at NVC.

re: relationship evidence - send more, send all, with the DS-230 set.

re: NVC Processing - since you've NOT started NVC processing yet, please OPT IN for NVC Electronic Processing ASAP.

Good Luck !

Edited November 8, 2012 by Darnell

[RickyW 0]

This is from the CR-1 guide and where we are in the process - A few weeks after you have received your last Notice of Action indicating the approval and forwarding of your I-130 application to the NVC, the NVC will send your relative a packet of forms that you and your relative must fill out before your relative can be given an interview date with a consulate abroad

We have not got the DS-3202 yet so I am just waiting on that before we can do the electronic processing.

Question about the Affidavit of support, I am self employed so I don't don't get a pay stub would a copy of the deposits to my bank account be good enough or do i need to get something from the company that i am contracted to?

[Darnell 8,478]

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Welcome to VisaJourney.com and THANKS SO MUCH for filling out yer timeline !

Was your casefile transferred to MSC at all ?

[RickyW 0]

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Was your casefile transferred to MSC at all ?

Not sure what MSC is, but we did get transferred to the Lee's Summit, MO office.

[Darnell 8,478]

yup, that's MSC (National Benefits Center) in Lee's Summit.

So, you've got some studying to do, for NVC intake, aye?

The weekend is coming up, just remember that to start with NVC, you must use a telephone, and call often until you hear of a GUZ casefile number.

Study Study Study , and welcome aboard !

[Darnell 8,478]

Here's Ryan H's log of what HE did:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/327561-my-ep-experience/

I mention it now, as he was clear and concise on each step.

For a longer discussion, here's some DJ Walker: DJ Walker - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/251451-uscis-nvc/

Mr. Walker and I covered every possible nuance of EP for GZO there in that thread.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Darnell

[bigdog 376]

Welcome, you got it from the experts.

[RickyW 0]

Called the NVC this morning and they have put our package in the system got the GUZ# and invoice # and the DS-3032 is being generated today to be emailed out!

[Darnell 8,478]

Excellent! OPT IN after you have received the AOS FEE BILL in yer email inbox.

Good Luck ! (I hope NVC is going faster this month and next, as I am counting on it also)