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Hi everyone,

My husband and I are recently legally married and we've started filling out the forms for the IR-1/CR-1 Spousal Visa.

He's the US citizen and I'm Chinese Singaporean. I've got a question regarding filling out my name on the form under "Last Name, First Name, and Middle Name".

My full name is Seah Wan Hoon Cherie, with Seah being my last name (surname/family name), Wan Hoon my Chinese Pin yin name, and Cherie my first (English) name. In all official documents, I am known as Seah Wan Hoon Cherie, as is the format here in Singapore.

I'm not sure how to put this in the forms as I'm worried if I put my Wan Hoon under "Middle Name", they might document my name as Seah Cherie Wan Hoon in future documents, which is inaccurate.

Should I fill in as:

Last Name: Seah First Name: Wan Hoon Cherie

or

Last Name: Seah First Name: Cherie Middle Name: Wan Hoon

Any advice or help on this would be dearly appreciated!

Cheers!

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I'm not sure how to put this in the forms as I'm worried if I put my Wan Hoon under "Middle Name", they might document my name as Seah Cherie Wan Hoon in future documents, which is inaccurate.

If you were to fill in the form like this; First name Cherie, middle name Wan Hoon, and last name Seah; it would be documented like this: Cherie Wan Hoon Seah. Some official documentation does display names using this format, last name, first name, middle name (driver licenses is some states {including WA} are an example of this); however, this would not change the true order of one's name. People who are familiar with how names are displayed on certain documentation will likely know the correct order of the name when they see it.

Should I fill in as:

Last Name: Seah First Name: Wan Hoon Cherie

or

Last Name: Seah First Name: Cherie Middle Name: Wan Hoon

What's the proper order? Does Cherie come first or does Wan Hoon come first?

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September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
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November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
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September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

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February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

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If you were to fill in the form like this; First name Cherie, middle name Wan Hoon, and last name Seah; it would be documented like this: Cherie Wan Hoon Seah. Some official documentation does display names using this format, last name, first name, middle name (driver licenses is some states {including WA} are an example of this); however, this would not change the true order of one's name. People who are familiar with how names are displayed on certain documentation will likely know the correct order of the name when they see it.

What's the proper order? Does Cherie come first or does Wan Hoon come first?

Thanks for the reply!

In my passport and birth certificate, Wan Hoon comes first, although Cherie is my first name and Wan Hoon is the Chinese name.

It's exactly what I'm afraid of if I'm documented as Cherie Wan Hoon Seah, I've had issues in countries like Australia where they argue my documents are not accurate because the name format reflected is not the same.

In documents from Singapore, it doesn't state "first name" "last name" or "chinese name", it's just "Name", if you know what I'm saying so it's hard for people who don't understand the formatting to understand which of my names are first/last/chinese.

Is there any way to indicate that Wan Hoon is my Chinese name if I write it under "middle name"?

I know all this sounds weird and maybe unnecessarily complicated. Just don't wanna risk screwing anything up.

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Is there any way to indicate that Wan Hoon is my Chinese name if I write it under "middle name"?

US documentation that you will ultimately receive will make no distinction or indication that Wan Hoon is your Chinese name. So if you were to indicate Wan Hoon as your Chinese name if you write it in the middle name field, it won't mean anything to personnel that will see the document.

I know all this sounds weird and maybe unnecessarily complicated. Just don't wanna risk screwing anything up.

Hopefully others who have been through this situation or are very familiar with this situation chime in with what is the appropriate way to fill the forms out. The only suggestion I have is to ask USCIS and/or the Embassy but they may not have a good answer for you.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Hey Ryan,

I certainly wonder if anyone with both Christian and Chinese names have faced the same problem, or whether it's not a problem at all.

I've decided, to ease my woes, to use my married name and put my maiden name under "other names", as some have suggested. That's the name I want on my green card anyway - turns out it costs USD450 just to make a name change which is completely ridiculous.

This just means adding a "Mrs XXX XXX" to my passport which will be included under my maiden name, so I get to keep both!

Hopefully this IS a solution and doesn't create future problems.

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