PROOF AT INTERVIEW......

[Tota 2]

Are all chat logs & emails/facebook messages actually all READ?

Also, what happens when they want more proof or whatever? I've been reading topics about people who've submitted what seems like more than enough proof. If you've showed & given ur all, what else do u show or give?!?!

Andddd, if the visa is denied, do they tell u why, can u correct it & re-apply? I'm staring to feel discouraged & haven't even started yet.

[des1867 6]

Are all chat logs & emails/facebook messages actually all READ?

Also, what happens when they want more proof or whatever? I've been reading topics about people who've submitted what seems like more than enough proof. If you've showed & given ur all, what else do u show or give?!?!

Andddd, if the visa is denied, do they tell u why, can u correct it & re-apply? I'm staring to feel discouraged & haven't even started yet.

Hello and welcome,

First of all on your questions, I am sorry I cannot help you, I am not in that stage of the game yet. I will tell you that this whole process is not for the faint of heart as it takes a lot of patience and understanding to get through it.

From what I can understand and have read if there is something wrong with your petition, the USCIS service center where your petition is being processed will send you a RFE (request for evidence) which will clear up anything that is missing or needed in your petition. I will not even consider the possibility that my petition will be denied.

It is tough being separated from the person that you love and I totally understand what you are going through. Absence does make the heart grow fonder, and I wish you the best of luck in beginning your journey through the process.

[didopage 337]

Tota, are you waiting for your petition to be approved or is your case at the embassy stage?

In both case, if you sent something like 200 pages of chats (BTW, that's too much, few pages are different dates is a better option), be sure they won't read everything. I would say they only look at them quickly, and that's all.

At the petition stage, the USCIS only wants proof of meeting in the last 2 years, so chat and Skype logs are not needed, and so useless. If you get a RFE on this point, it won't be because they want chat or Skype logs, but REAL proofs of meeting (pictures, boarding passes, ...).

Some consulates require proof of bonafide relationship at the interview, so in this case, they will look at them (again, if you give 200 pages, they will never read everything).

I suggest you read reviews of VJ members who dealt with your consulate because at this stage, the process will be highly country-specific. That will also help you to be more prepared. If the visa is denied, they usually tell why. It's possible to re-apply, but after being sure to correct the problem of why the visa was previously denied.

[Tota 2]

Tota, are you waiting for your petition to be approved or is your case at the embassy stage?

In both case, if you sent something like 200 pages of chats (BTW, that's too much, few pages are different dates is a better option), be sure they won't read everything. I would say they only look at them quickly, and that's all.

At the petition stage, the USCIS only wants proof of meeting in the last 2 years, so chat and Skype logs are not needed, and so useless. If you get a RFE on this point, it won't be because they want chat or Skype logs, but REAL proofs of meeting (pictures, boarding passes, ...).

Some consulates require proof of bonafide relationship at the interview, so in this case, they will look at them (again, if you give 200 pages, they will never read everything).

I suggest you read reviews of VJ members who dealt with your consulate because at this stage, the process will be highly country-specific. That will also help you to be more prepared. If the visa is denied, they usually tell why. It's possible to re-apply, but after being sure to correct the problem of why the visa was previously denied.

Hi thank you for making it more clear!

No I haven't even filed anything yet .. My fiance is in Egypt & it seems that things are more difficult when ur applying for a visa from a ME coutnry. Really I've just been doing a lot of research & trying to have a more clear view of how to handle things if a negative comes along.

[didopage 337]

The petition stage is the same for everybody, regardless of the beneficiary's country. Then, yes, some consulates are tougher than others. That's good to gather informations and be informed on how to deal with it, as you do.

I suggest you to look at those 3 links:

VJ Page about the Cairo Embassy

Egypt Consulate Interview reviews for K-1

VJ regional forum for ME and North Africa members

Edited June 26, 2012 by didopage

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

The petition stage is the same for everybody, regardless of the beneficiary's country. Then, yes, some consulates are tougher than others.

Well, sort of.

It's true that the sort of things needed in order to get the petition approved are the same for everyone. However, what you include with the petition might have a big impact on whether or not the visa is approved at the consulate. It depends on the consulate.

At some consulates, especially the tougher ones, the decision whether or not to issue the visa is frequently made before the interview even begins based solely on the documents the beneficiary submits before the interview, and the contents of the petition package they received from the NVC. Some consulates see the bare minimum evidence included with the petition package, and they presume this couple are doing the bare minimum required in order to get a visa. Based on that alone, they conclude the relationship is likely a sham, and that sets the tone for the interview. They might not ask for any additional evidence during the actual interview. While it's generally true that relationship evidence isn't required with the petition, including at least some of this evidence can help if you're dealing with a difficult consulate, especially if that evidence helps to address what might be perceived as red flags at that consulate.

There is also a technical legal reason for frontloading a petition. If the consulate denies the visa then they must send the petition back to USCIS. They can't do this without a reason. The reason they most often use is that they don't believe the beneficiary is eligible for a visa, and they're recommending that the approval of the petition be revoked. However, they can't recommend that USCIS revoke the approval of the petition for a reason which USCIS was aware of when they originally approved the petition unless they're claiming that USCIS just plain screwed up. This means they can't cite something like "Petitioner never met beneficiary's family, which is a long held customary tradition in the beneficiary's culture" if the petitioner included pictures of him or her self with the beneficiary's family with the petition. In this example, if the petitioner knew that not meeting the beneficiary's family was considered a red flag at that consulate, then including a picture with the beneficiary's family in the petition package would be a very smart thing to do. Likewise, if it's considered a red flag to get engaged after only meeting one time then include evidence that you met multiple times before getting engaged. You need to know what the red flags are at the consulate you're dealing with, and figure out what sort of evidence will help address those.

At the same time, it's important not to pack the petition package with too much evidence. Cherry pick, and include only a sampling of your best evidence. They aren't going to look at a big stack of chat transcripts, for example. You want to make sure that any piece of evidence they select at random to examine is going to be evidence that makes a good impression.

[Tota 2]

Well, sort of.

It's true that the sort of things needed in order to get the petition approved are the same for everyone. However, what you include with the petition might have a big impact on whether or not the visa is approved at the consulate. It depends on the consulate.

At some consulates, especially the tougher ones, the decision whether or not to issue the visa is frequently made before the interview even begins based solely on the documents the beneficiary submits before the interview, and the contents of the petition package they received from the NVC. Some consulates see the bare minimum evidence included with the petition package, and they presume this couple are doing the bare minimum required in order to get a visa. Based on that alone, they conclude the relationship is likely a sham, and that sets the tone for the interview. They might not ask for any additional evidence during the actual interview. While it's generally true that relationship evidence isn't required with the petition, including at least some of this evidence can help if you're dealing with a difficult consulate, especially if that evidence helps to address what might be perceived as red flags at that consulate.

There is also a technical legal reason for frontloading a petition. If the consulate denies the visa then they must send the petition back to USCIS. They can't do this without a reason. The reason they most often use is that they don't believe the beneficiary is eligible for a visa, and they're recommending that the approval of the petition be revoked. However, they can't recommend that USCIS revoke the approval of the petition for a reason which USCIS was aware of when they originally approved the petition unless they're claiming that USCIS just plain screwed up. This means they can't cite something like "Petitioner never met beneficiary's family, which is a long held customary tradition in the beneficiary's culture" if the petitioner included pictures of him or her self with the beneficiary's family with the petition. In this example, if the petitioner knew that not meeting the beneficiary's family was considered a red flag at that consulate, then including a picture with the beneficiary's family in the petition package would be a very smart thing to do. Likewise, if it's considered a red flag to get engaged after only meeting one time then include evidence that you met multiple times before getting engaged. You need to know what the red flags are at the consulate you're dealing with, and figure out what sort of evidence will help address those.

At the same time, it's important not to pack the petition package with too much evidence. Cherry pick, and include only a sampling of your best evidence. They aren't going to look at a big stack of chat transcripts, for example. You want to make sure that any piece of evidence they select at random to examine is going to be evidence that makes a good impression.

Thank you !

[Ryan H 3,813]

Moved from K1 Process & Procedures to General Immigration-Related Discussion; issue raised in the topic is not limited to one visa type.