Do I need to include his vaccination record?

[Cherieish 0]

I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status. If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. Only if your DS-3025 is marked "incomplete" is a I-693 required to be completed. If it is marked as such (incomplete) you are required to complete certain portions of the I-693 and have a Civil Surgeon certify the form (and seal it in an evelope). Specifically, you will complete Part 1 (Information about you) of the I-693 and provide both the form and your DS-3025 (if you have it, proving your vaccination history) and any proof of required vaccinations that were completed prior to entering the US.

He had his medical exam only a few months ago and his DS-3025 is NOT marked as incomplete. So we don't need to fill out the I-693, but do we need to include his completed DS-3025 or any other medical paperwork in the AOS packet? Or will they just use the records from when he got his K-1?

[Inky 1,110]

All you should need is the vaccination record copy from the medical that was done for the K-1.

[Dan&Aylin 1]

He had his medical exam only a few months ago and his DS-3025 is NOT marked as incomplete. So we don't need to fill out the I-693, but do we need to include his completed DS-3025 or any other medical paperwork in the AOS packet? Or will they just use the records from when he got his K-1?

You MUST include a photocopy of the DS-3025 with the AoS package, but nothing else. All other medical paperwork was in the sealed envelope given to the officer at POE. As long as it is completed correctly and shows that he had all the required vaccinations at the time of his K1 medical, and as long as that medical happened less than a year ago, you'll be fine Me and many others have been approved doing this. I added a letter aswell explaining why I used the DS-3025 just be safe, but this is probably not necessary Does that help?

[Cherieish 0]

Oh #######. I just took another look and his medical record WAS marked as incomplete! What the heck?? Would anyone mind taking a look at this scan of his vaccination record and tell me what I need to do? I'm panicking! It says that he didn't receive all of his vaccines but that he has a blanket waiver for them?

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/medical.pdf?w=29e1a3e2

[Dan&Aylin 1]

Oh #######. I just took another look and his medical record WAS marked as incomplete! What the heck?? Would anyone mind taking a look at this scan of his vaccination record and tell me what I need to do? I'm panicking! It says that he didn't receive all of his vaccines but that he has a blanket waiver for them?

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/medical.pdf?w=29e1a3e2

Don't panic Mine was incomplete too and I was approved. The blanket waiver still means he is fine, it's probably because he has Varicella history and didn't get that shot, which isn't given in the UK anyway! Can you post a pic from somewhere that isn't drop box, can't see it and then I'll answer your question definitely

Read this thread and in particular, the brilliant posts by Nich-Nick and relax

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/305553-london-medical-on-monday-the-18th/

Edited December 8, 2011 by Dan&Aylin

[Cherieish 0]

HERE we go, this was hard to do on my work computer, lol.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff303/cherieish/med.jpg

[Inky 1,110]

HERE we go, this was hard to do on my work computer, lol.

http://i237.photobuc...erieish/med.jpg

It looks like there is an issue with the MMR shot, its checked off as not sufficient time interval and the mumps part isn't even checked off. He might need to see a civil surgeon because of this.

[Cherieish 0]

It looks like there is an issue with the MMR shot, its checked off as not sufficient time interval and the mumps part isn't even checked off. He might need to see a civil surgeon because of this.

But it's listed under "blanket waiver," doesn't this mean it's, you know, waived? How do I find out for sure if he needs to get another? Should I submit this as-is and see if I get an RFE for it? We're super broke and I would hate to pay for a civil surgeon here if it's unnecessary!

[Inky 1,110]

But it's listed under "blanket waiver," doesn't this mean it's, you know, waived? How do I find out for sure if he needs to get another? Should I submit this as-is and see if I get an RFE for it? We're super broke and I would hate to pay for a civil surgeon here if it's unnecessary!

The waiver does not usually cover shots that are a series and have to be completed on entry to the USA or seasonal shots. Flu shot for example is seasonal and it is the season now and it is available everywhere in the USA. Flu shot is listed on the requirements for vaccinations.

You can try sending it in and seeing if you get an RFE but thats up to you guys.

[Dan&Aylin 1]

Hmm....I wouldn't be comfortable advising you on this because I am unsure about the time interval bit. It looks like he didn't get a mumps vaccination. I am confused because it says the examination date is the 15th but his MMR shot was the 19th?? How did that work? I got a combined Measles, mumps and rubella vaccination at my medical, so I don't understand this. You COULD just submit the DS-3025 and hope you don't get an RFE. If you do though, which seems likely, you'll just have to see a civil surgeon and use the i-693, it shouldn't delay you too much if you respond quick. Sorry I can't be of more help. I'll look more into this for you

[Cherieish 0]

Hmm....I wouldn't be comfortable advising you on this because I am unsure about the time interval bit. It looks like he didn't get a mumps vaccination. I am confused because it says the examination date is the 15th but his MMR shot was the 19th?? How did that work? I got a combined Measles, mumps and rubella vaccination at my medical, so I don't understand this. You COULD just submit the DS-3025 and hope you don't get an RFE. If you do though, which seems likely, you'll just have to see a civil surgeon and use the i-693, it shouldn't delay you too much if you respond quick. Sorry I can't be of more help. I'll look more into this for you

Yeah, he had his exam, they told him that he needed to get a few more shots, so he went to his personal doctor and got them 4 days later, then had his doc fax Knightbridge the record. I'm not sure how he got the MMR shot but without the mumps vaccine!

An RFE for the AOS wouldn't delay his work permit right? So I guess it doesn't really matter as long as he could get a job in the meantime.

[Dan&Aylin 1]

Yeah, he had his exam, they told him that he needed to get a few more shots, so he went to his personal doctor and got them 4 days later, then had his doc fax Knightbridge the record. I'm not sure how he got the MMR shot but without the mumps vaccine!

An RFE for the AOS wouldn't delay his work permit right? So I guess it doesn't really matter as long as he could get a job in the meantime.

OH, okay. Wow this is confusing. I'm curious why knightsbridge didn't just give him all the shots like they did me at the medical? and I still don't understand the time interval thing and the fact mumps isn't ticked. Hopefully another VJer who knows more about what these vaccinations are and how they work can come in here and give you a good answer. I'm sorry.

[Inky 1,110]

Yeah, he had his exam, they told him that he needed to get a few more shots, so he went to his personal doctor and got them 4 days later, then had his doc fax Knightbridge the record. I'm not sure how he got the MMR shot but without the mumps vaccine!

An RFE for the AOS wouldn't delay his work permit right? So I guess it doesn't really matter as long as he could get a job in the meantime.

RFE stops all processing on the AOS case. They wait for the response from you before starting processing again, cant say how long it stops for maybe only a week maybe a few weeks or a month just depends how far to the bottom of the pile your file goes before you get the information back to them that they RFE for.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Yeah, he had his exam, they told him that he needed to get a few more shots, so he went to his personal doctor and got them 4 days later, then had his doc fax Knightbridge the record. I'm not sure how he got the MMR shot but without the mumps vaccine!

An RFE for the AOS wouldn't delay his work permit right? So I guess it doesn't really matter as long as he could get a job in the meantime.

Honestly it looks totally fine to me. The flu vaccine might be the only issue. I would send as is and then deal with it. in the meantime call around CS's so that yu have one in mind IF you get an RFE.

Yes and RFE will pause the EAD and AP until you successfully reply to it.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

He had his medical exam only a few months ago and his DS-3025 is NOT marked as incomplete. So we don't need to fill out the I-693, but do we need to include his completed DS-3025 or any other medical paperwork in the AOS packet? Or will they just use the records from when he got his K-1?

Cherieish--Your DS-3025 is perfect. You do not have to see a civil surgeon. You get a blanket waiver from the adjudicator of your case--it means a waiver you don't have to apply for that the immigration officer can decide on.

To clear up a few other questions--

• That VJ quote you posted first is not correct information. I've studied this a long time (3 yrs) and whoever wrote that just doesn't have it quite right. Most DS-3025s will not be marked "complete". Read the instructions for panel physicians in the section of how to fill out the form. It says most will be marked "Incomplete" and "may be eligible for blanket waiver".
  
• Somebody said you MUST send a copy of the DS-3025. Also not true. The copy you send is more of a reminder for them to look in your medical file where the original DS-3025 is. Your medical results has 4 sheets of paper and the original DS-3025 is one of them. They have approved people who lost their copy of the DS-3025 because the one they need to see is in the file.
  
• Just because it say MAY be eligible for blanket waiver doesn't mean you've completed the shots needed. They will still look at your shots and dates.
  
• VH written on it excuses you from the varicella vaccine. It is not medically appropriate because having the disease gives you immunity. Thus a vaccine is inappropriate.
  
• If your exam was not in flu season then that's eligibility for a waiver. Even if it is flu season when you apply for AOS, they use the date of your DS-3025 to determine that you were up to date at your exam. You do not need a flu shot. If you went to a civil surgeon now during flu season, then you would have a new date of medical record and it would supercede the July date you have. In that case a flu shot would be needed for the new doctor to sign off on a new shot record in December.

You can get a waiver for four reasons, because receipt of the vaccine is:

1. not medically appropriate. The term not medically appropriate applies to vaccinations that are not age appropriate
   
2. where there is a medical contraindication (like in the case of pregnancy where MMR is contraindicated or some people have strong allergies to vaccines made from egg products)
   
3. where there is an insufficient time interval (you don't need to delay a visa or AOS waiting the required time for a second dose in a series. One dose is okay.)
   
4. when it is not the flu season
   

One last note: Despite having a perfect DS-3025, it they fail to match up your medical results with your AOS application, you will have to get the full exam done again. Sometimes they lose them. So just hope you aren't one of the unlucky few that happens to. The embassy and Knightsbridge do not keep a copy. I called them myself and asked. The only copy was in the envelope you turned in at POE. They can't approve you without medical results.

Edited December 8, 2011 by Nich-Nick