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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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I will be using my parents as my co-sponsors. My parents filed their 2010 taxes jointly making about 64k. The only dependent they have is my sister. When 2 individuals file their taxes jointly are they considered as 1 person that made the gross income for 2010? The guideline for the I-864P poverty minimum requirement only states the requirements for a sponsor but I`m not sure how they handle people that file their taxes jointly.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

I assume that since my parents have filed their taxes jointly they are considered as 1 sponsor and the total household size will only be 3 including my fiance? or will it be 4? Hopefully Im not confusing anyone

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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I will be using my parents as my co-sponsors. My parents filed their 2010 taxes jointly making about 64k. The only dependent they have is my sister. When 2 individuals file their taxes jointly are they considered as 1 person that made the gross income for 2010? The guideline for the I-864P poverty minimum requirement only states the requirements for a sponsor but I`m not sure how they handle people that file their taxes jointly.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

I assume that since my parents have filed their taxes jointly they are considered as 1 sponsor and the total household size will only be 3 including my fiance? or will it be 4? Hopefully Im not confusing anyone

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/143555-i864joint-sponsor/

Try this link....it talks about using a joint sponsor that has joint income and what forms need to be used... :) But im not sure about the k-1 process....but I hope this helps

and it would only be 3 if its just your mom, dad and fiance...if your dependant on them then it would be 4 but you still are the petitioner...so you still have to fill one out regardless of your income

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I will be using my parents as my co-sponsors. My parents filed their 2010 taxes jointly making about 64k. The only dependent they have is my sister. When 2 individuals file their taxes jointly are they considered as 1 person that made the gross income for 2010? The guideline for the I-864P poverty minimum requirement only states the requirements for a sponsor but I`m not sure how they handle people that file their taxes jointly.

http://www.uscis.gov...form/i-864p.pdf

I assume that since my parents have filed their taxes jointly they are considered as 1 sponsor and the total household size will only be 3 including my fiance? or will it be 4? Hopefully Im not confusing anyone

Your assumption is incorrect. For a K visa, you can use only one "additional sponsor", (We commonly use the term "co-sponsor".). Joint sponsor is the correct term for later when using the I-864 in the adjustment of status process. In your case, use the parent whose individual income is sufficient, then provide an I-134 from you and one from that parent. On the parent's affidavit, state only their personal income and provide a pay stub or employment letter to document the current income. For tax return, use a complete copy instead of a tax transcript. That lets the CO see which income belongs to the signing sponsor.

The sponsor's household size will include sponsor, spouse, and dependents plus the sponsored immigrant. If the sponsor previously sponsored any other immigrant or immigrants, they count to. You only count if you are your parent's dependent.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Your assumption is incorrect. For a K visa, you can use only one "additional sponsor", (We commonly use the term "co-sponsor".). Joint sponsor is the correct term for later when using the I-864 in the adjustment of status process. In your case, use the parent whose individual income is sufficient, then provide an I-134 from you and one from that parent. On the parent's affidavit, state only their personal income and provide a pay stub or employment letter to document the current income. For tax return, use a complete copy instead of a tax transcript. That lets the CO see which income belongs to the signing sponsor.

The sponsor's household size will include sponsor, spouse, and dependents plus the sponsored immigrant. If the sponsor previously sponsored any other immigrant or immigrants, they count to. You only count if you are your parent's dependent.

Ohh ok so just to make sure I got all of this down, I will use my father`s income and only state him in the I-134 and in order to provide the amount he makes I will have to provide a pay stub and employment letter since the tax form shows that he filed jointly. So in this case I will still have to provide the CO a copy of the jointed 1040 tax form correct? This is the first year that my parents filed jointly so I guess that it would be a good idea to provide tax income from 2009 and 2008.

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Ohh ok so just to make sure I got all of this down, I will use my father`s income and only state him in the I-134 and in order to provide the amount he makes I will have to provide a pay stub and employment letter since the tax form shows that he filed jointly. So in this case I will still have to provide the CO a copy of the jointed 1040 tax form correct? This is the first year that my parents filed jointly so I guess that it would be a good idea to provide tax income from 2009 and 2008.

Yes, provide complete copies of tax returns. Generally, a complete copy will indicate which portions of income were earned by which individual but tax returns reflect past income. You also need to document current income. That's where the pay stubs and/or employer letter fit in.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Yes, provide complete copies of tax returns. Generally, a complete copy will indicate which portions of income were earned by which individual but tax returns reflect past income. You also need to document current income. That's where the pay stubs and/or employer letter fit in.

Thanks so as far as providing paystubs and /or employer letter it would only be from me and my father since I will state him on the I-134.

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Thanks so as far as providing paystubs and /or employer letter it would only be from me and my father since I will state him on the I-134.

Pay stubs apply to sponsors. You don't "state" anybody on the I-134. He provides a signed I-134 with supporting documentation and so do you. You document his income and he documents his. Tax returns document past income. Pay stubs document current income.

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Pay stubs apply to sponsors. You don't "state" anybody on the I-134. He provides a signed I-134 with supporting documentation and so do you. You document his income and he documents his. Tax returns document past income. Pay stubs document current income.

Thanks for your help :thumbs: . I will go ahead and get this done asap

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Just as an observation, this thread is 2.5 years old. Regardless, following pushbrk's advice is very smart.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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