Crooked consulate vo's

[michaelguiying 0]

It has been a long time since I have been here and I've been a member of the Yahoo Asian-American group. My Guiying was denied her K1 in August 2008. The vo said we didn't have a real relationship despite us having a huge volume of evidence. USCIS was going to review the case but our case was closed due to 'administrative reason'. (Our case had expired) So! We applied again and this September I met Guiying AGAIN, this time in Guangzhou so I could bend some ears at the consulate. It took almost 45 minutes to explain to the embassy official about how Guiying was approached by a 'helpful person' outside the embassy who offered to 'check her paperwork' for completeness and accuracy that day on August 2008. Guiying was then approached by an 'attorney' the next day, one hour before her interview and she was told he could guarantee her visa if she would pay a fee of $5000! She refused and went for her interview. At the 'interview' a vo known as 'mc' asked her one question, did NOT allow her to answer, did NOT look at the evidence, and told her she was going to be denied. After she left the consulate, the same 'attorney' told her he could still solve the problem and get her the visa if she would pay. When I told the embassy official about Guiying's denial in 2008 he turned off the recorder and told me 'off record' that they had just fired THREE (YES! I SAID THREE!!!) vo's for malfeasance and bribery. Yes, too late for us but a real eye opener, We are now waiting for USCIS to approve our new I129f. In the meantime, I have developed friendship with one of my US Senators and I am collecting emails from others who have been cheated by dishonest and crooked vo's. If I can get enough legitimate cases, there very well could be a Congressional investigation about these matters. I hope those of you who have doubts about the honesty of the consulate officers who have denied your visa(s), please send me your stories. I have already collected a good number but we need more. PLEASE do NOT send me email or posts simply stating you were denied. You must truly believe you were cheated or offered a visa for a price as we were offered. In the meantime, DO warn your significant other to NEVER EVER accept ANY offer from ANY 'helpful stranger' offering to go over your paperwork. ONLY DEAL WILL EMBASSY OFFICIALS *INSIDE* the embassy! DO NOT BECOME A VICTIM as happened to us! That was at Guangzhou. God only knows how prevalent and common are the crooks working at other consulates.

Edited November 10, 2010 by michaelguiying

[Darnell 8,478]

Hey Michael - good on ya for running this through.

If you'd like some help to 'find' those VJ members for China - let me know.

Also - are you in contact with attys Ellis or Roth ? They've been doing stuff also. Ya, I know, is not the same scope, focus or cause, but they've both been doing stuff because of GUZ IV - it might be good (or not, yer call) to check in with both of them, talk about their contacts with DoS and GUZ IV and BeiJing USCIS office.

I also highly recommend you get Gogo's phone book (see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/221091-uscis-contacts/page__p__3365596entry3365596 ) and study a bit for who / which office to 'pitch the b|tch' to.

[Bob g 11]

Congress does not give a rat's behind anyway of what goes on at the Guz Embassy. Congress is the one that passed the laws of how things are handled. Congress "passed the buck" to leave Visa decisions to the "descretion" of the Visa Interview Officer. Descretion means personal Opinion. That is the reality of how it is. This policy opens the door for more and more dishonest Visa Interview Officers. I would pay the $5G not to go through this BS another 2 years..............Bob..

[michaelguiying 0]

Congress does not give a rat's behind anyway of what goes on at the Guz Embassy. Congress is the one that passed the laws of how things are handled. Congress "passed the buck" to leave Visa decisions to the "descretion" of the Visa Interview Officer. Descretion means personal Opinion. That is the reality of how it is. This policy opens the door for more and more dishonest Visa Interview Officers. I would pay the $5G not to go through this BS another 2 years..............Bob..

Actually Bob, there ARE congressmen who do give a damn about what goes on in the consulates and it is one of the few issues that has bipartisan support. Here's why... congress is being bombarded from every angle concerning illegals flooding this country and a consular visa overhaul is one of very few things that can relieve the problem. I'm just as mad as you and since I now have my senator's and representative's ears, I'm going to beat this drum until something positive happens. (I'm still looking for more 'orchestra members'!)

It sounds like you have a good angry story to tell and there is power in numbers when dealing with congress. Here's hoping you will be a part of this. You are needed, my friend. Thanks for replying, Bob.

[michaelguiying 0]

Hey Michael - good on ya for running this through.

If you'd like some help to 'find' those VJ members for China - let me know.

Also - are you in contact with attys Ellis or Roth ? They've been doing stuff also. Ya, I know, is not the same scope, focus or cause, but they've both been doing stuff because of GUZ IV - it might be good (or not, yer call) to check in with both of them, talk about their contacts with DoS and GUZ IV and BeiJing USCIS office.

I also highly recommend you get Gogo's phone book (see http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/221091-uscis-contacts/page__p__3365596entry3365596 ) and study a bit for who / which office to 'pitch the b|tch' to.

Thank you! Every bit of info is important and and there's power in concentrated numbers, especially when dealing with the government.

[Bob g 11]

Actually Bob, there ARE congressmen who do give a damn about what goes on in the consulates and it is one of the few issues that has bipartisan support. Here's why... congress is being bombarded from every angle concerning illegals flooding this country and a consular visa overhaul is one of very few things that can relieve the problem. I'm just as mad as you and since I now have my senator's and representative's ears, I'm going to beat this drum until something positive happens. (I'm still looking for more 'orchestra members'!)

It sounds like you have a good angry story to tell and there is power in numbers when dealing with congress. Here's hoping you will be a part of this. You are needed, my friend. Thanks for replying, Bob.

I am more angry at myself than anything, for not understanding the Visa Process more. I wish I had stumbled upon this website alot earlier.

I feel sad for the many starting the process with very little or any knowledge of the process and what the "real" requirements may be at the Interview. I will contact my Congressman again soon, just to give him my opinion of how I believe things are.