My brother is getting divorce but need some info

[Teacher Mark 53]

my english is just fine. I learn english for last few years here.

my class is from non-profit orgnazation to protect women against violence. This is to help us get help in US.

Ok, i see you point about 50/50, but I think its up to judge to decide. Judge may award more if wife is abused by US Citizen and sometime use as slave. I think qualify for VAWA as well for greencard. Even if we don't get much in divorce, we can find work and make money in US. We cannot do that viet.

These kinds of classes do exist.

http://www.thanhniennews.com/2007/Pages/2007819121715031146.aspx

[David-Hien 11]

my english is just fine. I learn english for last few years here.

my class is from non-profit orgnazation to protect women against violence. This is to help us get help in US.

Ok, i see you point about 50/50, but I think its up to judge to decide. Judge may award more if wife is abused by US Citizen and sometime use as slave. I think qualify for VAWA as well for greencard. Even if we don't get much in divorce, we can find work and make money in US. We cannot do that viet.

Hahha, you made the men here in visajourney.com scary. I'm scared too.

@ all: This is the reason why you have to come to the lawyer, a free advice on internet can help that such people make a fraud case.

@dare88: your brother should negotiate for 5 to 10k to kick his wife back to Romania and for her to sign all paperworks. A dissolution without attorney is to save money but it didn't cost too much to hire an attorney for a divorce case. The fee is not over 1k if he found out an appropriate lawyer.

His property is community property because he put it in deed and morgage under both husband and wife name. However, it doesn't mean that the court will divide the property to half and half. They will base on the income of both husband and wife to decide, and base on many other factors that I don't want to say.

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

my english is just fine. I learn english for last few years here.

my class is from non-profit orgnazation to protect women against violence. This is to help us get help in US.

Ok, i see you point about 50/50, but I think its up to judge to decide. Judge may award more if wife is abused by US Citizen and sometime use as slave. I think qualify for VAWA as well for greencard. Even if we don't get much in divorce, we can find work and make money in US. We cannot do that viet.

Basically you are admitting that you took a class that TEACHES YOU how to set U.S. citizen men up for a VAWA case. While some VAWA cases are legitimate most of them are scams, and this is exactly what your class is teaching you how to do. It is teaching you how to be a low life scammer. Have a good life, and have fun answering to God.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Basically you are admitting that you took a class that TEACHES YOU how to set U.S. citizen men up for a VAWA case. While some VAWA cases are legitimate most of them are scams, and this is exactly what your class is teaching you how to do. It is teaching you how to be a low life scammer. Have a good life, and have fun answering to God.

By God you mean USCIS right?

[IncorrectPolitics 26]

By God you mean USCIS right?

Good one but no I didn't mean USCIS. I meant what some of these VAWA scammers do is very wrong. They make a U.S. citizen man love and fall for them, falsely accuse him of abuse, have him arrested with a felony conviction on his record for life, take all of his assets that he had BEFORE this scammer came along (therefore she doesn't deserve it she didn't work for it), and then leave him ruined with nothing to his name. DISGUSTING!

Edited August 17, 2010 by AlwaysWaiting

[Prawninator 138]

I know this is but... I think one of us needs to actually find vietbride's new husband/fiancé/boyfriend and warn him about her, with screenshots and links and all that jazz. And details about that class she's taking, perhaps. She honestly scares me, and now my husband's all mock-suspicious saying that maybe one day I'll do the same.

[rlogan 2,036]

my english is just fine. I learn english for last few years here.

As a retired professor I can tell you that even native english speakers, with college degrees, have poor english and maybe it would be better if I had said "poor choice of words".

I won't be quite as hard on you as others have been, nevertheless I am impressed at how brazen it is. A rational motive for foreign marriage is economic, and such is true for all marriages, so we can be hypocritical in pretending money should play zero role. But gosh, I think you've convinced a lot here that it is your only reason.

I do think it is exactly on-topic for the OP. His wife is expecting money. It matters what the law is, of course, but a person who enters primarily with a determination for prize money behaves differently than someone who does it primarily for companionship.

Such a person is capable of anything, because hurting the other person plays no role in their decisions. Acting like you care about them is important in order to ensnare them, but the second some other strategy like a fake VAWA is more profitable then they are capable of unmitigated cruelty.

So this is very much something for the OP to think about and guard against.

[HappyRs 8]

OK, so I read the entire thread...it's been fun and scary at the same time. I hope the poster from Vietnam is taking a class that teaches her to stand up for herself if she feels she's being abused (either physically or emotionally), but NOT how to lie and manipulate her husband. I don't even want to think she meant something else in her posts

Now, back to the topic, I am Romanian, therefore I know that the laws here state that everything purchased during marriage is the property of both spouses (IF the name of both of them is on the contract)! I am sure she knows that, but not what i wrote in between parenthesis. Therefore, dear OP, tell your brother not to let his wife fool him; if the contract states that he is the sole buyer...I cannot imagine any judge could take the house away from him (but then again, I did not check the link regarding the laws in Nevada that one poster kindly provided ). Keep us posted, and I hope it's good news!

[mare333 0]

my brother made appointment with lawyer next week.

Now she is saying if she does not get what she asks she will leave the US and he will not be able to sell his house without her....

things are getting worse for him,i hope lawyer will find some solution

[belinda63 3,038]

I am not sure how she can say he can't sell the house without her. If the house is only in his name he doesn't need her, if the house is in both their names when the property is divided in the divorce the order awarding him the house is all that is needed. Same thing happened with my car, I just provided the title and a copy of the court order and no problem.

If he needs the funds prior to the divorce and it is in both their names his attorney can bring up her lack of cooperation in court and obtain a solution that way, say sell the house and place the funds in escrow.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

my brother made appointment with lawyer next week.

Now she is saying if she does not get what she asks she will leave the US and he will not be able to sell his house without her....

things are getting worse for him,i hope lawyer will find some solution

Hogwash. Even if the house is in both names he can still divorce her and get a judgment in default while she's back in her home country. He can get a clear deed to the house without her cooperation. If, on the other hand, her name is not on the deed, and it was purchased before the marriage with separate assets, then she has no claim whatever.

Once your brother hires an attorney he should stop communicating with his wife, and let his attorney handle all communications with her attorney. She's blowing smoke up his tailpipe to scare him into compliance.

[Darnell 8,478]

Now she is saying if she does not get what she asks she will leave the US and he will not be able to sell his house without her....

Perhaps she walked into the county deed office and tried to do something, prior?

Time for a deed and title search, on his property. Can do that at the recording office, suggest to yer brother that he do that, today.

If nothing else, will relieve any anxiety about her 'going behind his back' to modify the deed.

[Prawninator 138]

Perhaps she walked into the county deed office and tried to do something, prior?

Time for a deed and title search, on his property. Can do that at the recording office, suggest to yer brother that he do that, today.

If nothing else, will relieve any anxiety about her 'going behind his back' to modify the deed.

She can do that?!

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Basically you are admitting that you took a class that TEACHES YOU how to set U.S. citizen men up for a VAWA case. While some VAWA cases are legitimate most of them are scams, and this is exactly what your class is teaching you how to do. It is teaching you how to be a low life scammer. Have a good life, and have fun answering to God.

Whoa - everyone should chill.

A lot of countries (seems the ones that have a large number of immigrants going to the US) give indoc classes on what to expect coming to the US, what rights/responsibilities you have, and what can you do if you get in trouble/divorce/etc... (PI is one of them)

Nothing is "nefarious" about them, they are designed to help the immigrant adjust to the new life in the US.

One of the reasons the VAWA was made was for exactly this reason, the USC would use the immigrants lack of knowledge of the law/immigration/divorce to basically make the person a slave or even worse.

Now - are there groups/classes of people teaching how to scam in the US? Yes - but do not jump to the conclusion that every class is a scam.

If you truly believe that - you are only fooling yourself.

[rlogan 2,036]

my brother made appointment with lawyer next week.

Now she is saying if she does not get what she asks she will leave the US and he will not be able to sell his house without her....

things are getting worse for him,i hope lawyer will find some solution

The point you need to see with this is that a person motivated by money is dangerous and the brother needs to think about protecting more than his assets.

Nobody buying the house is going to care about anything except who is on the deed and whether there is a lein or mortgage. If her name is not on the deed, there isn't anything she can do.

The only person who can put her name on the deed is the present deed-holder who would file a quitclaim at the recorder's office.

I am in agreement with Bobby+Umit about classes. My wife took one. But the poster being referenced has numerous posts elsewhere with a relentless focus on nothing but money, and has presented VAWA as a process to abuse in order to get money and a job in the US.

So the issue is more the intentions of the person taking the class and not the fact VAWA is spoken to in such classes.

Edited August 20, 2010 by rlogan