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Leigh Ann   8

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Thought people here might find it interesting, though it's not a question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/nyregion/13fraud.html?pagewanted=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Married - 3/12/10

AOS Filed - 5/13/10

Biometrics received - 6/5/10

Biometrics done - 6/9/10

RFE Received 6/10/10

Touched - 6/7/10, 6/16/10, 6/17,10 (all)

RFE delivered - 6/29/10

Resumed processing - 6/30/10

EAD Production Ordered - 7/2/10, 7/8/10, mailed 7/15/10

Touched - 7/6/10, 7/8/10 (485, 765)

Touched EAD - 7/16/10

EAD Received!! - 7/17/10

Interview - August 30, 8:45- Approved!

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Kathryn41 Grand Master

Kathryn41   3,205

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Actually, a fairly well done article. Of additional interest is the link to this document: http://graphics8.nyt...erral_Sheet.pdf .

Also, read over the questions on the marriage quiz. There are some that I really have to think about and I know it would be the same for my husband. What colour are each other's toothbrushes? Heck, I have no idea - we change them every few months and we never have the same colour - just as long as he uses his and I use mine is all that matters! No idea what movie we last saw together either- we are not big movie goers. Had to think about the name of his supervisor and I only have the ballpark figure for his last pay cheque - and I know he has no idea what my last paycheque was either - the money goes direct deposit into the bank; I know the annual salaries, but just the odd question like that is not necessarily straight forward. We are celebrating our 6th anniversary this month.

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Thought people here might find it interesting, though it's not a question:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/nyregion/13fraud.html?pagewanted=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

I just read this article and was going to post it here, but you beat me to it!

Happy Anniversary Kathryn41!

Time Line

2007-11-10.....Marriage in Ecuador

2008-01-11.....I-130 Sent

2008-04-28.....I-130 Approved

2008-05-02.....NVC Received

2008-08-20.....Case Complete at NVC

2008-10-14.....Interview--221g, asked to present joint sponsor inspite of NVC approval

2008-11-07.....Visa due to arrive. DHL truck delivering visa was robbed, Consulate required us to present I-864s and DS-230 again, had to get a new passport and other related documents

2008-11-14.....Presented all new documents in person at Consulate, visa printed same day

2008-11-25.....POE Atlanta

2008-12-26.....Green Card and 2nd Welcome Letter arrive

2010-09-02.....Date of NOA ROC 1-751

2010-12-13.....Approval of ROC

2011-01-12.....10 year Permanent Resident card arrived

2011-12-20.....N-400 Application mailed

2011-12-29.....NOA

2012-02-02.....Walk-in biometrics (appt was for 2/16)

2012-04-17.....Interview

2012-05-18.....Naturalization Ceremony

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I just read this article and was going to post it here, but you beat me to it!

Happy Anniversary Kathryn41!

Thanks! It isn't actually for another week - but I'll take the Good Wishes now:)

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I happened to catch this article this morning, it was an interesting read but that's not a job I would like for sure. I would probably fail as I'm pretty sure I have inattentive ADHD, equipped with short term/working memory so poor that it's obscene. That's also not the first time I have heard immigration ask a mother/pregnant woman if the baby was her husband's!

Kathryn, I knew you were in the ATL area but I didn't know it was Stockbridge! My inlaws live there about 15 minuets away from us, I really like the area.

Also, happy anniversary too!

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would hate to have to go home each day, and wonder how many legit couples I denied :wow:

Given the stats they cite (1% or fewer interview-based denials) it sounds like they tend to err pretty heavily on the side of approval. They managed to make it sound like the fraud has to be pretty dang blatant, or the situation ridiculously unusual, to get an actual failure.

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DON'T PANIC

"It says wonderful things about the two countries [Canada and the US] that neither one feels itself being inundated by each other's immigrants."

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Another NY Times article, contains similar info but from the perspective of a couple that's been denied:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/nyregion/14marriage.html?hpw

Married - 3/12/10

AOS Filed - 5/13/10

Biometrics received - 6/5/10

Biometrics done - 6/9/10

RFE Received 6/10/10

Touched - 6/7/10, 6/16/10, 6/17,10 (all)

RFE delivered - 6/29/10

Resumed processing - 6/30/10

EAD Production Ordered - 7/2/10, 7/8/10, mailed 7/15/10

Touched - 7/6/10, 7/8/10 (485, 765)

Touched EAD - 7/16/10

EAD Received!! - 7/17/10

Interview - August 30, 8:45- Approved!

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interesting stuff and some things to think about.... Good read.

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The Great Canadian to Texas Transfer Timeline:

2/22/2010 - I-129F Packet Mailed

2/24/2010 - Packet Delivered to VSC

2/26/2010 - VSC Cashed Filing Fee

3/04/2010 - NOA1 Received!

8/14/2010 - Touched!

10/04/2010 - NOA2 Received!

10/25/2010 - Packet 3 Received!

02/07/2011 - Medical!

03/15/2011 - Interview in Montreal! - Approved!!!

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Very interesting, si man -- especially the fraud worksheet that the interrogator uses (linked as PDF within the article): http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/USCIS_Fraud_Referral_Sheet.pdf

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Yes very cool

01/2006 - Filed k1(1st time)

04/2006 - Interview (1st time) denied

Waited, waited...... no review

06/2009 - Filed k1 (2nd time)

09/2009 - NOA 2 approved

12/2009 - Interview (2nd time) APPROVED! VISA ISSUED

02/2010 - Arrived USA

04/2010 - Married

AOS Timeline

4/19/2010-Sent to Chicago Lockbox

4/26/2010-Received texts and emails 7th day

4/30/2010-Received NOA's(Hardcopies) 11th day

5/3/2010-Received ASC appointment notice(mailed 4/29/2010)14th day

5/7/2010-Walk-in Biometrics done(2 weeks earlier)18th day

5/13/2010-Case transferred to CSC

6/2/2010- Case received/resumed at CSC

6/18,6/22,6/23 AOS touches

6/28/2010- EAD production and touch on AP

6/29/2010-AOS APPROVED

7/2/2010- 2nd update on EAD production and touched on AP....

7/6/2010- Received "Welcome Letter" and AP document

7/12/2010-Received GREEN CARD and EAD

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Duplicate post of the same article has been moved from AOS forum and merged with existing post in Immigration News Forum. There is one additional thread on this same article that is posted in Off Topic and has been asked to remain in Off Topic to allow for more 'off topic' type of discussion that would not be appropriate here, so for now, it will remain there.

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