Same Sex Marriages

[I'm Gone 60]

https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203215

RM 00203.215 Changing Numident Data - Other than Name Change

Sex:

Sex-Change Operation: The surgeon or attending physician must provide a letter verifying the sex change surgery has been completed. All documents must clearly identify the number holder.

[HuffyTheSlayer 22]

Thanks, md.

[PrettyGirls 1]

I haven't thought about that.... That really is sad.

[Sister Fracas 5]

PrettyGirls...CUTE puppy!!!

[PrettyGirls 1]

Thanks, Frances!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

30 some odd years ago, my marriage to Nani would have been unlawful in, I believe, a few states here in the US. It would have been unlawful for no other reason than that we happen to be of different color. And there were apparently majorities at the time that felt it right to keep it that way. A lot of narrow-mindedness seems deeply rooted around here. That doesn't make any of this discrimination right or legitimate. Rather than feeding into and off of the public's fears, the political elite should lead the country into recognizing that what is happeneing is nothing but discrimination.

But it ain't gonna happen until there's a gay equivalent of the late Dr. King rising up. That minority has dreams, too, I would think.

[CarolineM 0]

wow. I am in awe that the governmnet allows it for sex changes. That's more progressive than I imagined we were...

[Reba 2]

even before Canada allowed gay marriage, they allowed same sex immigration sponsorship as under common-law relationships. Same sex relationships have been recongnized under common-law in Canada for a while.

of course, common-law/conjugal relationships are a bit more difficult to prove during immigration applications, but easy enough that it can be done.

I have often thought of same sex partners where one partner may be American and the other from somewhere else. If for whatever reason the American cannot/doesn't want to move to their partner's country even if they allow same sex partnership, there are other visa options for the non US partner. However, if I were the non-US partner I'd be suspicious of my partner who refused for any reason (other than legal inadmissability) to move to my country, as I would have been if for some reason my husband had outright refused to move to Canada.

Just like any other couple who has to consider immigration as part of their future, they have to determine what is best for them. In some cases, a third country may also be the answer. But if the US is one of those countries, options are limited.

I think its sad in general that the US is so discriminatory to same sex relationships, and that gays and lesbians are treated by some people as if they have a communicable and/or treatable disease.

[I'm Gone 60]

wow. I am in awe that the governmnet allows it for sex changes. That's more progressive than I imagined we were...

However, you have to read the fine print.

IMPORTANT: Numident sex data is used for identification purposes only. Do not use the sex data shown on the Numident to determine whether a valid marital relationship exists in a claims situation. Rather, consult appropriate State law to make a determination whether a valid marital relationship exists.

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

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[Amy and Brian 1]

Not exactly related, but the questions karo was asking made me think of this. I seem to remember a big legal case somewhere in Texas when I was living there four or five years ago that had to do with a same-sex couple that wanted to marry where one of them had gone through a sex-change. I cannot recall whether it was a male-male relationship where one had been born female, or a female-female relationship where one had been born male. But I am pretty sure that the court ruled that they were legally allowed to marry because according to their birth certificates, they were of opposite sexes.

Would be interesting to see how such rulings would apply in terms of immigration cases.

I'll see if I can find any old news articles about this because it's entirely possible that I'm remembering the facts wrong.

[Amy and Brian 1]

Okay, so here's a link to an article about the couple I mentioned in the above post (on that note, why is it sometimes you can edit posts but not always?).

Lesbian wedding allowed in Texas by gender loophole.

I am, however, having difficulties finding any information on whether they were permitted to remain married or if the Texas government has since adapted it's laws to deal with this so-called loophole.

[djcess 0]

OMG! <pukes>

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[Kajikit 65]

OMG! <pukes>

hehhehe

grow up!