Clinton76

Please turn off the CAPS-LOCK, it is considered shouting & rude.

OH, I WISH I COULD..BUT, I DON'T THINK IT'S RUDE & I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK!!!

...Space cadet Clinton...you're back! I see that you got into your time machine, traveled to June 9, and attended your fiancée's interview. Then you traveled back to the present time simply to inform us that your I-864 worked. Thank you very much for all the trouble you went to. I imagine that time travel is a risky business.

By the way, how in the world do you keep your VJ timeline straight? If your fiancée's interview is on June 9 and you time-travel there on June 3, and then travel back in time from June 9 to June 3, then when does her interview really take place? Is it June 3 or June 9? I'm so confused!

YEP! I'M BACK AND AINT GOING ANYWHERE! I MOVED HER INTERVIEW TO JUNE 3RD, BEFORE THE NEW FEE OF $350 ON THE K-1 VISA TOOK PLACE! I WILL UPDATE MY TIMELINE FOR YA!

So, i used the word business, my bad. still using the I-864 as requested by the visa service!

HEY! THE I-864 WORKED AND WE PASSED THE INTERVIEW!!! SO, SEE I'M RIGHT YOUR WRONG!!!

Clinton, you may want to read this:

http://manila.usemba...v/wwwh3023.html

Fraud Warning

Committing visa fraud or providing false information on your petition, visa application or to a Consular Officer may result in the revocation of your petition and/or a permanent ineligibility to travel, work or immigrate to the United States.

U.S. Embassy Manila neither endorses nor has a "special relationship" with any individual or business offering advice or assistance with the visa process. No one can guarantee the issuance of a visa to you. Visa eligibility can only be determined at the time of the visa interview. All U.S. Government forms are free.

Beware: Visa applicants may lose money or be permanently barred from the United States as a result of false information and fraudulent documents provided by so-called "visa consultants."

So, i used the word business, my bad. still using the I-864 as requested by the visa service!

Why are you here on VJ? Is it to show us how sarcastic, stubborn, and defensive you are? Well, I must say, you are doing a great job of that. And you still haven't even bothered to answer the questions that you were asked. Now you've reduced yourself to shouting and incoherence. With your attitude, I feel sorry for your fiancée.

OH, NOW TAHOMA!!! YOU HURT MY FEELINGS, I'M ON HERE TO PROVE MY POINT!!! THAT I'M RIGHT AND THE VJ WORLD IS WRONG!!!! HAHAHAHAHA.....

Just so you know, there is no such thing as a Visa Service doing business with the US Embassy in Manila. They are a business who needs to convince you to spend your money with them, towards that end they will say a lot to get your money.

Visa Journey is a online forum feed with daily updates from Visa Petitioners & Beneficiaries who are actually going through the process from start to finish. When the process changes VJ actually has more relevant information that the Embassy website may as our cache of knowledge is updated in real-time.

If you "Fiancée Visa Service" didn't warn you about the Red Flags in your case then they aren't worth the envelope that your payment was delivered in.

Why would they accept the I-134 for a Sponsor when it isn't legally binding? You're right it doesn't make any sense and yet they do it daily. I have seen the other Embassies actually use the I-864 for K Visas [can't remember which one(s) is is at the moment though].

Where is the thread/post on VJ that says Manila Embassy want the I-864 for K-1 Visas.

If you hold such a low opinion of VJ then why are you even bothering to ask us?

THANKS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE BOB4ANNA!!! BUT I'LL GET BACK TO YOU AFTER THE MANILA EMBASSY ACCEPTS MY SISTER'S I-864 WHICH IS THE ONLY LEGALLY BINDING WORTH OF ###### OUT THERE!!!

If you didn't get that info from the Embassy in Manila or a VJ member who was successful with a Co-sponsor on a K-1 then I wouldn't lend much value to that opinion. Have you bothered to read anything or do you just listen to the "Visa Service"?

Well its makes sense with the I-134 having no legal value and the Filipina Fiancee Visa Service has been doing business with the Embassy in Manila for years so they should know what they're talking about!!! So I wouldn't lend much value to your opinion either!!!! All you get on here is a variety of diferent answers which make your freaking head spin!!! So, yo answer your queastion yes I have read on here that the I-864 is used in so K-1 visa cases and not every case is the same and why would they accept a co-sponser using a I-134 and say it has no legal value what so ever????

This is what the visa service is telling me, so I'm going with what they say and will let you know how it turns out!

The Manila Embassy is VERY STRICT about accepting co-sponsors. The I-134 is not legally binding and they will not accept it from a co-sponsor. She must use the legally binding I-864 to have any chance of success.

If you want, have her fill up both.

She must have the I-134 filled out.

Ya, I will just have her fill out both of them. I guess it wouldn't hurt! Thanks!!!

I-134s are to be used for K-1s.

The Consulate follows the I-864 guidelines when adjudicating the I-134 but you/your sister doesn't need to fill out an I864.

Not yet. Not until it's time for AOS.

Really, i dont know why this visa service is telling me my sister needs to fill out the I-864 for the interview and not the I-134, I will make sure, thanks!!!

^^^ A K-1 Fiancée visa is a non-immigrant visa...not an immigrant visa.

Jason is correct...a K-1 co-sponsor must fill out an I-134.

also, the USEM considers co-sponsors for K-1's on a case-by-case basis.

That is true, but every k-1 visa case is the same and in my case my sister has to fill out the I-864 and I have to fill out the I-134. In some cases the I-864, is used on k-1's, even say's so on the VJ!!!

From my understanding a I-134 is what is needed for the sponsor to fill up prior to the interviews of the I-129f applicant and a I-864 is what is needed when the I-129f applicant is here in the USA and applying for a AOS.

Will someone please clarify this ?

Yes the sponser needs to fill out a I-134 and the co-sponser needs to fill out a I-864 and not a I-134 for the interview! This is what the visa company told me and here is a letter from the embassy in manila. Hope this helps you!!!

Petitioners in fiancé(e) (K1) nonimmigrant visa cases are generally expected to provide the adequacy of their own financial resources to ensure that an alien, after admission into the United States , will not become primarily dependent on the US Government for subsistence. While our immigration law does not disallow joint sponsorships for K nonimmigrant visa applicants, the mere submission of an I-134 Affidavit of Support from joint sponsors is not sufficient to establish that the alien is not likely to become a public charge. Accordingly, we make a thorough evaluation of other factors, such as the sponsor’s motives in submitting the Form I-134, the sponsor’s relationship to the applicant or petitioner, the length of time the sponsor and applicant have known each other, etc. An I-134 Affidavit of Support submitted by a casual friend or distant relative who has little or no personal knowledge of the applicant has limited value. Unlike the I-864 filed by joint sponsors in immigrant visa cases, the I-134 is not legally binding and imposes no legal obligation on the joint sponsor to make good on his or her promises. Please be assured that we look at the totality of circumstances in assessing the credibility of joint sponsorships.

thank's rhowin... so meaning it will be ok to have a co-sponsor on k1 petition here in the US embassy manila.. and it will not be a problem even they will just starting the process... uhmmmm.. ok will tell my friend to PM u so he will have ideas about filing co-sponsor... tnx...

They will accept a co-sponser, but would be best if it's a close relitive. I'm having my sister co-sponser, I have to fill out a I-134 and the co-sponser needs to fill out a I-864, because its a leagal contract where the I-134 is not and they just want to make sure you won't become a public charge..

Whoever makes more money and has a smaller household size.

If it's your dad, then he will an I-864A.

If it's your sister, she will fill an I-864 since she lives in a separate household.

You, regardless of income, will file an I-864.

Ok, that would be my sister than! thanks!!!

Hello everyone, I've filed a K-1 visa and will be using a co-sponer, I'm just wondering who would be a better co-sponser. My Dad whom I live with or my sister who lives in the same town and makes more money? I have a disability and will be getting disability checks soon, but they won't be enough to meet the income requirments, i'm sure...

1. Go to the Phillipines and marry your finacee

2. Send a certified letter to the the USCIS OR the NVC (depending where your I-129f petiiton is at that time) withdrawing the I-129f

3. Send an I-130 petition for foreign relative.

Follow the guides at this website for a CR-1, IR-1

DO NOT do anything more in your case until you read and study the guides and undersatnd the differences between the visas and decide what is best for you and your fiancee(spouse) It seems as though you have gone down a road blindly and now are getting surprised by what you are finding, that means you have not studied the process and there are many more surprises ahead if you have not done so.

Well, the USCIS has already had our petition for almost 2 months now and I won't get the 455 bucks back, that it cost to file. I will be down there when she has her interview, if she fails that. Do you think I'd be able to marry her then??

For those who say the OP doesn't need the added stress, many psychiatrists have noted that patients with depression and anxiety disorders often experience a dramatic improvement in their conditions when they enter into a stable and happy relationship. Their use of medication often goes down, and their level of functioning improves. Conversely, an unstable and unhappy relationship can have the opposite effect. Much of the stress involved in a relationship with a foreigner comes from the US government's visa process, and not from the relationship.

Clinton76, have you seen a gastroenterologist about your IBS? I know somebody who was diagnosed with a severe anxiety disorder, and later diagnosed with IBS. Years later, a colonoscopy revealed she had Crohn's disease, rather than IBS. She'd only had a sigmoidoscopy when she was diagnosed with IBS, so they never saw the lesions caused by the Crohn's - they only saw the spasms in the sigmoid colon, which they incorrectly concluded were caused by IBS. Once treatment for the Crohn's began, the anxiety symptoms decreased dramatically. A malfunctioning colon can introduce toxins in your blood that won't show up in a standard blood chemistry or CBC test. These toxins can affect your brain. Doctor's like to fall back on a diagnosis of mental illness when superficial tests don't reveal any physical disorder. Anyway, it's always a good idea to exhaust every possibility before accepting a diagnosis as fact. Doctors are the same as lawyers, and you'll get the best results from either if you are an actively involved client.

Technically, if you have more than $2000 in countable assets, then you are not eligible for SSD, which is a needs-based benefit.

Yes, I have seen several gastroenterologist and had just about every test in the book done. Thay thought I had Crohn's, but finally decided that it was all caused by stress, anxiety and depression. I know i dont qualify for SSD, I'm applying for SSID cause I did work for over 10 years before I had to quit, because of my problems.

I haven't been able to work full time since July of 2006, because of severe depession, anxiety and IBS..I have tried to go back to work a couple times since, but i couldn't handle it. After I quit my job after 10 years of working in 2006, I went temporary disability, that ran out in Aug of 2007 and I have also filed for pernament disability and after over 3 years of waiting, I'm now waiting for a hearing, which should happen sometime in march of this year. I have plenty of doucumentation to show my disability's, but my main worry is because i have yet to recieve any disability benifits for now, I have no income to support my fiancee!!! I do have plenty of saving after selling my house last year, but i hear you have to have at least 100,000 dollars for that to work. I have made attemts to find work here over the last couple of months since i filed our petition in december, but the unemployment rate here is about 25 percent, so I've had no luck. So, I decided to go back to school as of this year full time and get my certificate in Medical billing. My sister is going to co-sponser, but I know its up to the embassy to decide if they want to except them or not. So, my first question is does my fiancee have a chance of getting apporoved, since i have no income right now, but am going to school full time??

Also I would like to attend her interview if I can and would that help our case?

Please any advice on this would help wheather its good or bad? cause I just stressing out about everything, cause that's what I do and worry way too much also!!!

Hi Clint! If you filed already then just wait on what the USCIS reply. But I also wants to share my experience with my Fiance who have nothing financially nor properties but He is able to bring me here in US. But through his parents co sponsorship I'm here. He just graduated from college in Year 2007 and decided to file the next yr. He only have at least 2K in his bank account and in your case obviously you have more money. But I guess what really matter is the proof of relationship. And also when he filed for my K1 he hired a lawyer. My fiance's been coming back and forth in the Phils since 2004 till 2009 doing missions in my church. But we became a couple on '05 and engaged in '07. I hope you have enough evidence to prove your relationship with her. If you do then in my opinion there is a chance.

I will message you the evidence we sent. It may help more if you haven't filed yet. ^^ I'm not a lawyer but your situation and my fiance ( husband ) where close.

And if you can hire a lawyer please do and if you got approved much better if your with her during the interview. The CO may ask you to be with your fiance during the interview or not. At least your there coz its also a plus during the interview. Your fiancee can tell the CO that your there with her. That is what we did before.^^ like I said seriousness and honesty of the relationship is more important.

Hello and thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I filled her petition on Dec. 8th and will be going with her to her interview, whenever that may be. I did spend 3 weeks with her, back in October. I want to go back and see her tomorrow, as I miss her so much!!! My sister is going to co-sponser her and I hear its better to have a close relative co-sponer, than anyone else. I not super rich, but will defintly look into getting a lawyer to help us out. That would be great if you can send me the evidence you used to get your visa!!!

Thanks so much and God Bless!!!

I would be very careful and throughly consider what you do before you make any more steps. These are the reasons why:

1. You've been trying to get disability for various ailments. You're awaiting a hearing for your case. If you win said case, you should get back pay on the disability for the amount of time you have been trying to file. Since you have been waiting roughly 3 years, that should be a fair chunk of money. That money could pay for your trip, your marriage, and your CR-1 filing.

2. You could lose your chances of winning your disability case if you go back to school. Now, whether this case is legit or not, (I am not judging either way) you should consider that if you are well enough to go back to school, someone is going to ask the question why aren't you well enough to sit behind a desk and answer a phone? You should be very prepared with a GOOD answer to these types of questions. Furthermore, you could be denied disability merely on the fact that you have a lump sum in the bank.

3. If you have already filed a K-1 I do not personally agree with canceling it and filing the CR-1. It's not cheap to file the K-1 and you already started it...if money is potentially an issue for you why are you willing to waste what you have spent? I would follow through with what you started, but you can see others would disagree.

Going back to school was a bad idea, on my part. It just adding to my stress and anxiety greatly and now I have to drop the classes I signed up for. I'm just going to go through with the K-1 visa and I be with her at the interview and if we fall short there I will have to marry my love there and file the CR-1. I really need her now for her love and emotional support. But I know she will get here when God wants her here.. Thanks for the advice!!!!

In your situation, as you describe it, the K-1 is a singularly BAD choice for a number of reasons.

1. You will need a co-sponsor but the PI's frown heavily and sometimes flatly refuse co-sponsors

2. Your fiancee will need to get married and adjust status (additional $1010) after she arrives BEFORE she can work. It doesn't sound like you need to add that to your plate.

You are better off to go to the PIs, marry your now fiancee in the PIs and file for a CR-1. Why?

1. It is $700 cheaper in the long run, just for fees

2. You submit yor affidavit of support to the NVC and not the consulate. The PI consulate has nothing to say about it and the NVC allows co-sponsors AND you will use the I-864 which allows for co-sponsors in the same houselhold to combine incomes. The I-134 does not allow this.

3. There will be no AOS when she arrives and can work and travel internationally on arrival.

Ok, wish I would of known about this sooner! How do i cancel my K-1 petition, so I can apply for the CR-!?

Wait until you get your act together. GOOD chance you'll/she'll be denied and then you are in deeper sh!t.

So, going back to school for a career in a good paying job, doesn't help my case?? Would I be better off working at a mininum wage job here?

I haven't been able to work full time since July of 2006, because of severe depession, anxiety and IBS..I have tried to go back to work a couple times since, but i couldn't handle it. After I quit my job after 10 years of working in 2006, I went temporary disability, that ran out in Aug of 2007 and I have also filed for pernament disability and after over 3 years of waiting, I'm now waiting for a hearing, which should happen sometime in march of this year. I have plenty of doucumentation to show my disability's, but my main worry is because i have yet to recieve any disability benifits for now, I have no income to support my fiancee!!! I do have plenty of saving after selling my house last year, but i hear you have to have at least 100,000 dollars for that to work. I have made attemts to find work here over the last couple of months since i filed our petition in december, but the unemployment rate here is about 25 percent, so I've had no luck. So, I decided to go back to school as of this year full time and get my certificate in Medical billing. My sister is going to co-sponser, but I know its up to the embassy to decide if they want to except them or not. So, my first question is does my fiancee have a chance of getting apporoved, since i have no income right now, but am going to school full time??

Also I would like to attend her interview if I can and would that help our case?

Please any advice on this would help wheather its good or bad? cause I just stressing out about everything, cause that's what I do and worry way too much also!!!