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They might be talking about CENOMAR? But I have no clue otherwise, I've never heard of a certificate of engagement, only CENOMAR (certificate of no marriage) but I thought that was only for interview stage for that specific country. I could be entirely wrong haha

If the only question here is this, there is no answer anyone here can provide you. There is no way to tell how a USCIS case adjudicator will interpret the evidence you have provided. If there is a receipt that has the petitioner's family/surname with the beneficiary first name, there is no way to know whether they would take any opinion from seeing that. They could notice it and wonder why it is the name that it is, look into it, see you aren't married, and be like okay nothing, who knows. Or they could just not really care and just look at the ring receipt at first glance and then put it back in the pile of evidence after just saying "oh - ring receipt" lol, there's no way to know what will happen. I will say though, try not to overthink it too much, I know it is easier said than done, but take it from people who have already been through that stage of the process - it is out of your hands now so there really is nothing that can be done until USCIS responds to your petition anyway, so I would say do your best to protect your health and focus on other things. I think every single one of us here has had some sort of little panic or worry over what we included or did not include etc- it is natural/just human to do! But make sure you just take care of yourself !

So you've suggested that he lie to officers at the Embassy? Don't see how that would be a good idea nor good advice given the situation you're already in. Once you lie to them once, if they know you are lying, that will give them all the reason they need to thus question every other answer and piece of information he provides them. Why does this even matter? Immigration is no easy, fast or smooth sailing journey, any beneficiary that would INTENTIONALLY do something like this, is questioning the entire process to begin with. You don't just get cold feet and not attend an interview for IMMIGRATION if you aren't questioning the entire relationship to begin with. A person can be nervous and get cold feet - that isn't the same thing as CHOOSING to miss an immigration interview. Deep down I think you do and you are trying to make excuses for him; it isn't finances, his business, flights, it isn't cold feet - this is at the core, a man who clearly has second thoughts and reservations about the process and about marrying you. Like others have said, you are focusing on the wrong thing entirely. He can apologise all he wants but his true intentions and feelings toward the relationship are very clear, whether you choose to continue to blindly forgive those things and try to fix his mistakes will only cover things up that will later reveal themselves, and by that point you will be in a more difficult position. Even if you potentially did lie, got away with it, got a new interview, got approved - it isn't magically going to fix the fundamental issues that are very apparent here - it's just sweeping the issues under the rug - metaphorically speaking, and those things ALWAYS resurface. Issues do not go away magically, they have to be addressed and worked through. Better to protect yourself now than be stuck with a foreign dependent in the U.S where you realise the true nature of the relationship but there's nothing you can do because you've signed a document that makes you financially responsible for him and make you stuck in that situation. From your responses it really seems like you are acting like this is a small thing he has done and it is easily forgiven / excused - it isn't. Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do to help you until you admit that. Wish you nothing but the best, truly. But this man seems like he does not have true intentions of having loving and long marriage/relationship with you.

This is supposed to be the person you are closest to in life, someone you're going to marry and share a life and a future together; this is more of a red flag and more serious than you seem to take it as. Specifically because he missed it intentionally. You don't just do that kind of thing to the person you are meant to be marrying etc, especially with such huge impact and potential consequences. I personally wouldn't take it as lightly as "cold feet" nor a case of just rebooking the interview for a new appointment. Huge red flag situation. Wish you all the best and hope you are okay given the circumstances.

Like Cat said all you can do is contact the embassy and ask. And hope they are generous, some don't take missed interviews lightly and won't be as understanding.

I understand. Try to remember that not every case is the same, not every officer is the same, there could be stuff still being processed behind the scenes, I'm sure you'll hear back soon!

Personally in this situation I would hold off filing until you're settled back in the US and have at least 1 address between you both that is stable/consistent. A lot of people, even after changing their addresses at USCIS, post about difficulties in receiving physical letters/notices, stuff being sent to the old one despite having a new one - additionally, the form itself requires a US address for the petitioner. It is possible to change an address after filing, but I'd figure that out (permanent and useable/consistent address) before filing the i-129f. The petitioner's information is so so important at that stage - the beneficiaries, not so much. Also another thing I want to briefly mention is that you might want to think about the fact that you may face scrutiny or issues because you haven't been in the US - many people on here have expressed potential issues when the petitioner hasn't been present in the US for long, as the US citizen is required to provide evidence that he/she can financially support the beneficiary, naturally that requires a stable home/residence, stable job - if you don't meet the income requirements then a co-sponsor. But I have seen lots of people that experience or discuss issues in that area. A lot of people also choose to go back to the US first, get settled and wait a bit then file the visa petition. It doesn't guarantee/set in stone that there will be issues for you in this area, but naturally the process requires the petitioner to provide sufficient evidence that they can provide that all for the beneficiary (US tax transcripts, pay stubs, employment letter etc etc); not sure about your situation as you say you've been living in Korea so that's something to think about ) Good luck!

As the others have said, the bottom line issue is the lack of time spent together through visits/physically in person, even if you married, that visa will also require you to provide evidence the relationship is genuine etc etc - just like the k1 does, even more so because the relationship then is at the next level of actually being married. So jumping straight into marriage asap just to file the spousal visa could just result in the same issues; you need to strengthen your situation/case by spending more time together, more visits so that will essentially improve how the relationship is perceived as by USCIS and immigration officers. After some more visits and more time spent physically together, collect proof and evidence alongside those visits, then approach the spousal visa as an option. Otherwise you risk having the same thing happen via spousal visa, either process they're going to want proof the relationship is genuine and real, and that's why they like to see multiple visits over time. Goodluck!

I agree with the above comment, if you were told 3-4 weeks then you shouldn't be worrying until that time frame has been exceeded. As for your status, it is very common that the status doesn't update for a while, I would assume they have to do things on their end post interview, submitting/uploading documents, admin stuff. Once those things are all squared away I am sure your status will change. Patience is key Once those 4 weeks are up and you still haven't received it, then by all means, have concern and start looking at what to do.

In this situation I feel like you might want to consider trying to get the police certificates for the countries you mentioned; better to have them and provide them than not get them and then it delays your process longer because they send a request for them. But as you've mentioned, your interview is in a few days? You realistically won't have enough time to acquire these unless they offer some form of premium service/delivery like next day or something. Obviously I am not 100% sure, but if that was me, that's what I would do.

Of course - if you have knowledge of fraud you should report it, but this will likely not result in anything without evidence of said fraud. As far as "evidence" goes, this situation there wouldn't be any, even if either party involved in the visa process was willing to provide you with documents this still wouldn't prove fraudulent intent - you would have to acquire actual evidence that his intentions were fraudulent. From this thread alone, there is clearly some ongoing issues within your relationship - the fact you suspect him of fraud and you suspect his intentions are just to get a visa through marriage, should, alone, be a big enough red flag for you to consider protecting yourself, like smilingstone mentioned, cut ties and protect yourself; this here just sounds like you're inevitably going to get hurt and even used in the process. You're strong & you can get through this; protect yourself against any potential fraud and illegal activity!

What do you mean by "I still don't think it's fair that documents do not reflect the true nature of "two of us in an apartment".. Well - until she has no dependents and is in an apartment by herself then the documents are showing the true nature of things? - (she has to include any dependents and the appropriate required income according to household size and that is the reality of your situation currently) That's what evidence and proof is.. It is completely fair. Documents show what the facts are and what the current state of finances are. Financial and other documents won't show what the hypothetical future is or what plans are, people lie, people deceive, facts and evidence do not, that is why it is a requirement. Until your fiancés financial situation changes and she doesn't have dependents etc then you have to tell the truth and fill the i-134 out accurately to show that. Imagine the chaos etc if everyone could get away with "ok well right now we cant afford it/meet that requirement right now but in the near future we will so" lol. There's no way for the embassy to even know you aren't lying just to get through the process. There's a reason why the i-134 is there and you have to show the USC can financially support the beneficiary and prove that using the appropriate and required evidence and that information has to be accurate and true at the time of filling out the i-134 and the interview, it can't just be "ok it's gonna be true after we move out" or "it'll be true in the next XX months". Not everyone is honest and truthful and one of the responsibilities of the embassy and this process is to ensure the applicants meet the requirements. Hope you figure it out because seems a bit unprepared or perhaps lack of research. All the best & Good luck!

Okay but until then this is a financial issue in terms of the i-134 - when is she moving out? if she isn't moving out until after you'd hypothetically get there then you'd have to include her current income and situation (so basically she won't have enough for the household size in question) on the i-134 otherwise the information isn't true aka you'd be lying. Look at using a co-sponsor. So the answer to your question Well no? You're not her only dependent. Until she's moved out, by herself in her apartment, isn't paying other family members' bills or anything, they are also her dependents; and if that doesn't happen until after you move there (using the visa), then any other situation you put on the i-134 would be lying? So until that happens, you need to look at alternatives; a co sponsor. This is several months, potentially longer away - after you arrive, after marriage, after filing the documents, and potentially several months wait (no guarantee it'll be fast, could be up to 6 months). So realistically you having EAD is still a decent time away; that is why the US citizen is supposed to be financially responsible for you and must show that via having the income to do so accordingly. A lot of things for you to think about here. This should've been something you considered before applying for the k1; cr1 would've been a better option in terms of this situation.

What does your status on CEAC say? Approved/issued/refused? Contact the Embassy. That is the only way for you to know what is going on.

As Dashinka said, the only way you would be able to get any proof is asking the Algerian man if you can see/get a copy of his ds-160 that he filled out (if he progressed to the interview stage of the k1 visa process), if he didn't get that far, or if he doesn't have access to his ds-160, or if he simply won't give you it or admit he had it, then no, there is no way for you to get proof of him already applying for a k1 visa. Either way it's dependent on the Algerian man being honest and telling the truth to provide these documents, if they're available and applicable OR on the woman you mentioned providing you with the relevant USCIS letters in relation to the k1 application. Other than that, there is no way to prove anything.

This post is a bit confusing, are you a United States Citizen - you mention you're from Europe, and if he is Algerian and trying to move to the U.S. then there's no way for you to even do k1, the petitioner has to be a US Citizen for the k1 visa. There's no way for you to find out that information as far as I know. Also, if the petition was rejected/denied, then USCIS already had a reason to do so - they might even already be aware the petition itself was fraudulent in nature or that they were not eligible for the visa. The fact the petition is also from so long ago means that you realistically wouldn't be able to do anything anyway you won't have legal documents to prove if there is any type of scam. The only documents that would be involved in this situation would be the letter USCIS mails out to the US Citizen stating that they have received their petition, then perhaps a potential a letter USCIS would send entailing that there has been a denial/rejection - these would both go to the US Citizen. Even if you had those documents, they don't prove there is a scam or fraud going on. To prove fraud in this situation you'd need actual proof or evidence that the Algerian man was "using" the US Citizen. Since this happened so long ago, the likelihood of this being proved is small. From this alone it seems like he is just trying to get to the US. If you really loved someone and the relationship was genuine why would you get angry and break up with the US Citizen, you'd look at alternatives or try to look at a way forward. I don't know for sure, none of us could 100%... But.. This entire situation is a huge red flag in general, I'd advise to just steer clear of the man entirely. If you suspect these things and this is your thought process then obviously there is some underlying issues there anyway. Clearly there isn't enough trust here in general to be considering marriage.

Thank you!! You too! It expires 21 Dec 2024, waiting to see what happens I think. I was approved on 23 August. It hasn't been sent to state yet. We're kind of similar, my fiancé and my friend (who has her visa already) both say that due to the unknown length of the delays people are experiencing between noa2 and embassy (specifically NVC) and how far behind NVC are working, that a visa before Christmas is possible, but isn't guaranteed. My friend specifically said if she was in my position she'd do a visit in October for thanksgiving, then play it by ear on coming back, if things change once I am there, I can always look into coming back early. Yea! We talked about this, and I think we're going to look into late October to Thanksgiving - and look at "flexible" tickets. Okay thank you!! I'm glad I'm not delusional haha! I was thinking to do the trip in October, get some much needed time with my fiance, then just play it by ear - if things progress whilst I am there - great, I can just book my medical and interview and then come back to London accordingly. Then there is still hope for Christmas haha. Thank you for being so kind and taking the time to provide such a lovely response, this process has definitely brought out the "anxious" and "worrying" side of me, I think it's just because it is so important to us, I just want to be able to start my life without any pauses and goodbyes, finally! Haha! Yeah that was my only reservation, but I think a trip starting in October would allow me more flexibility, so that if it does go smoother and faster, I can always come back accordingly, and then if it doesn't - for whatever reason, I don't miss out on time with my fiancé (because that would really suck since the next time we would see each other would be after the visa is issued and naturally if it doesn't go fast, that could potentially be next year haha )! Thank you so so so much, again. I think we are going to wait until October 1st to make a full decision, but the plan is to do the trip in October and see how things progress. Coming back to London early to do my medical and interview is extremely do-able that way, and I'd get time with my fiancé! Thank you for your kindness ❤️

just asking you personally just for advice since we're the same country too - because it's taking so long currently I'm just torn - some context; we booked a flight for me to visit my fiance in the U.S. for thanksgiving and christmas, literally a day after we booked the trip, we got the approval. My birthday falls on thanksgiving this year and naturally I knew we probably wouldn't make the visa in hand by that time, so I was hoping for visa in hand before christmas so I could enjoy that at least, but now hearing the times are increasing I'm just thinking it's less and less likely; even with the delays waiting to be received by NVC, there's also delays at people at NVC waiting for their case numbers and waiting to go to embassy. Just want your opinion on what you think I should do? The plan me and my fiance discussed was to just do a visit (like we initially booked and planned before we got approved) for november and december to spend the holidays together, then just come back in Jan for visa medical and interivew. I'm just thinking it's just clearly taking so long and I'd had to miss the holidays just to get stuck and have no progress made. My friend said if it was her she'd just do the visit especially since there's people waiting over 6 weeks to go to NVC, then according to NVC website, they're still working on cases received Aug 14 which is basically another month behind. Then there's the wait to be ready at embassy, then once ready, UK interviews are currently 4-5 weeks away, then add 1-2 weeks (that the embassy recommends) for the visa to be delivered after approval, I just don't really know if it'll happen before christmas at that rate lol. Sorry for the ramble, just feeling quite anxious. We filed March 4 and I've seen so many people with visa in hand in under 90 days some even under 65 and I just was hoping to be there before christmas and it's becoming less and less likely (hence why we booked the trip, but the approval came legit the day after flight booking so I've just been like in limbo lol) @smilingstone thanks for listening to me blabber ❤️

Yes do it! There's no harm in it, worst thing that will happen is they won't reply. My friend said NVC is more of a "chase them" kind of thing. At the end of the day the only goal is to make progress as soon as possible lol! That's why I'm going to continue doing PI. If it makes me get my # faster then that's a win! Haha! Keep me updated!! Fingers crossed for us both 💕💕💜

Kind of.. it doesn't always change in every case. Especially recently, There has been many cases where the case status doesn't update at all beyond "approved" . I've had many friends who have their visas now and their status never updated at all after approved. One friend had her status update to sent to state when she already had her interview booked lol. Yeah, USCIS told us the same, can take up to 90 days to send to state. That mixed with the fact there's no guarantee it'll update on the tracker!! It's all just a waiting game lol. & yeah i already had NVC ask me to send my scanned noa2 and said they will contact USCIS to find the case. Thank you for the info!! Good luck!

So we waited until the physical noa2 came because we knew we'd need it. Approved on 23 Aug, physical letter came 3rd September, same day we did PI, a few days later NVC said they want me to scan my noa2 so I did and sent it over to them.

Thank you! Yeah I saw the same! Last week I had a response from NVC asking for me to scan my physical noa2 so just a waiting game again haha! Hopefully it is soon !

Should be fine, there's been many people who have met in 2024 and been approved (not that you did meet in 2024, but even if USCIS believed that, there shouldn't be any issues as long as the relationship is real and true and genuine & you meet all the requirements for the visa). Sounds to me like you should drop the third party, is it a lawyer/immigration service? This process is very very doable with no third party; we DIY'd and we got approved with no RFE, as do many many people on here. I'd just personally be cautious because if they've made 2 mistakes already this early in the process (especially if it's a lawyer/service because those mistakes are the kind that shouldn't be made by such people imo) there's no telling what kind of mistakes they could make later on. We just got in the habit of triple, quad checking everything over to ensure fresh eyes and nothing missed. Good luck for your process!

Initially when you get approved the physical noa2 gets mailed to the petitioner in the U.S, the approval instructions state that they sent a notice out and that if you do not receive it by X date you can do the e-request to get one sent. You could always try to do the e-request anyway and see if they'd just get you one sent out for free without having to do that entire process of filing the form to apply for a missing doc, that way it's worth seeing if you can save yourself the cost.

Good luck on your journey !