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thank you for wishes and reply!!

i understand but thanks anyway

thank you for reference, i read it and please let me correct if i misunderstood it: it says "An alien who obtains the status of a nonimmigrant under section 1101(a)(15)(F)(i) of this title and who violates a term or condition of such status under section 1184(l) 2 of this title is inadmissible until the alien has been outside the United States for a continuous period of 5 years after the date of the violation." my fiance returned back to her home without breaking any rules, does this mean she "violated a term or condition of such status" ? if this is the case, any tourist or student who returns early has violated the terms? for example, a student who is in masters degree for 2 years, returns after 1 year so she violated the visa? note: my fiance originally had visa and i20 for 1 year but she returned before the date on I20. her visa is still valid and we were originally told she can enter with valid visa AND valid I20 from new school. any help is appriciated and sorry if i misunderstood.

she has bulgarian(parents) and armenia(born) passports i am also bulgarian dual citizen

thank you, she is already in UK right now for work and she has dual citizenship but what you suggest makes sense! i hope her visas help. thanks. hi, you mean her existing f1 visa may be invalid? i will ask her to research, thanks if that's what you mean.

thank you boilder, i think as long as we are honest and she returns after school, there shouldn't be a problem but i know there is no guarantee at the airport. she will use her visa for its purpose and return. i will just ask her to bring all the documentation she has.

seeing my fiance while she goes to school is visa fraud? ok. i clearly meant the only reason she chooses US versus UK or other english speaking country is because I also live in US, you call this fraud without knowing what we mean? understand before accusing. education is her primary purpose but like i said, i think you already made up your mind thank you though for sharing the info. i won't take more time, thank you all!!

i will say thank you to both but you guys are very judgmental and have assumptions. I don't believe(i am serious) you're coming from bad place but not sure if it makes any sense because everybody comes to this forum to seek help and this is NOT helpful. we are immigratnts that can't have tons of money to ask lawyers so we are (like many many other people) finding information on public forums. not ALL of us are fraud. mike - i know you have this assumption because other people has done it, don't get me wrong, im not trying to be mean but she is not using it as tourist visa, SHE WILL go to school that she PAYS and she will return when school is done. Is it forbidden to do anything otuside of school like tourist do on student visa? is she required to NOT see anybody else and stay home during her stay so she is not using f1 as tourist visa? are f1 students not allowed to HAVE ANY REASON other than study like being with their loved ones? of course it is a BIG reason for her to come to usa for school because WE WILL BE TOGETHER while she is in school, of course the fact that i live in the us is a reason for her to study here. we never denied that but why is this a deadly sin?? or a illegal thing? crazycat - I guess when she got the visa, visa officer disagreed with you and guess what officer was right because SHE RETURNED HOME. now it is not different. my girlfriend has a family and life to return home and she will return. i don't know how you are so SURE about our true intentions. like you are in our head. no she won't change her mind magically as soon as she picks up her luggage. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE have done it and you are right and you might have that assumption at the beginning but automatically assume everybody is the same is also WRONG. You are constantly assuming we are lying. anyways, i really don't think you guys have bad intentions. i know that ALL "LIARS" or "FRAUD" people say similar things so you put everybody(for example; us) in same basket(i can understand it to some degree), but in some cases like this, it is not helpful.

hi redro, yes you are right my gf and i will have plans to live in usa so that's why we field for k1. true it is also true that she had student visa before we file k1 and she returned without staying. i know you can give any guarantee and everybody can have different experience and it is up to the officer at the airpot, i know this and it is ok but i heard many people visit or try to visit with a visa while k1 is pending, but i don't know why people here say, this is fraud in my case and too risky and she might get lifetime ban. what is it that we are doing so wrong. i don't understand why this is too risky because we are not lying.(i know you don't have to believe because all liars say the same) even if officers don't believe us at the airport, why would they ban her lifetime and deny fiance visa? is this common? this is all im trying to understand. im hoping you can give more advise and thoughts, thank you again.

Hi SalishSea, i understand your point and how you're not sure about my "true" intentions. many people said they won't do it but they somnehow changed their mind and now i look like them too and that is ok even though it is not true. I know you can't believe but my gf(fiance) will return. I have question even though: my gf already has the visa prior to our filing too, (like you said about your husband) you say your husband did it as well, how is it very different for us: Your husband had k1(immigrant) and esta(non immigrant) and he visited my gf(fiance) has k1(immigrant) and k1(non immigrant) and you're saying this is too risky. can you please explain? how is this different than you're husbands situation. at the end, it is all about visa intent. please know that it is ok if you "think" we are lying and trying to get married in the usa but i'm really trying to understand the reasons you say it and your experience, again thank you for commenting and helping.

thank you for advise, i think doing it traditional way without making it complex makes more sense.

thank you for explaining! i see, thank you again for explaining

you don't believe i'm saying she will? thank you anyway.

you're right it makes sense, im curious.. what do you mean by people are denied by traditional ceremony? why traditonal ceremonies causes a denial? thanks

i understand thank you, we will wait for k1 probably. maybe i didn't understand why it is so changeable when some people say they successfully did it and when others say otherwise. i was wondering if i am overthinking this.

thank you.

hi mike, i aggree that Misrepresentation is a ban but what are we Misrepresentation? she will really go to school for 3 months and we will not get married here and she will return back. does this sound risky? also she is not getting a new f1, she already has it. please let me know your experience. i know it can change but this is what i was referring to:

i see your point, thank you for advise, i hope everything works out for you too.

thank you... really. we won't marry for our own reasons and we will for sure not marry because why would we want to put ourself in danger when we have right to do it legally? we just want to be together for 3 months and she studies at the same time. her school will put her in special class, of course it won't make her native speaker but at least it is a positive thing. so you're saying, as long as we don't lie and say everything true, we will be fine? i just wanted to make sure we are not breaking any rule or law that we are not aware

thank you family, you are right about obtaining her first student visa. what you say makes sense and sounds right. things have changed and she returned early but i understand what you mean. even if we try it, i know you can't know for sure but do you know if she can get a ban for her entire life for any type of visa for this? it sounds crazy to me but just wanted to ask. even people who commit real fraud gets forgiven when marrying us citizen and my girlfriend will really study and leave, and of course we will be together during that time. visa issues is really stressful

i don't get it? i'm sorry. "She returned from the USA 3 years ago because she finished her internship(student program)." that is exactly right, she returned - from the usa - 3 years ago. she returned 3 years ago. i didn't say she lived 3 years. english is not my first language but i'm sure this sentence means she returned 3 years ago, not she lived 3 years because she didn't

i think you misunderstood. she returned home 3 years ago. not like she was in the usa for 3 years. she only did an intership for 6 weeks in the usa (it was a 3 month program but she had to return because she got job offer)

thank you very much and everything you said makes sense. can you please provide experience on my second question? 2 - If she get rejected at the airport and sent back to her home, will this affect our pending fiance visa? will she get ban for all types of visa if she gets rejected at the border?

it is not about money now i cannot relocate because i have to phyiscally be in the usa right now. i am working hard now.. it is an online business that i have to ship products every day in person. my plan is to hire someone to do this in person work and i run it online so i can live there. hope this clears all the questions about my job. it is a good oppurtunity for her to study here for 3 months, please believe in this. also of course we will be together and spend time together. this is not possible in her country. please believe in this. i really appricaite time but please accept our plans and let me know if you have information about my questions.

that is how much we can afford, and 3 month is good time to at least improve. and her school has a special program for this. so we want to take the opportunity. we will not get married 100 % percent but i understand your concern. even if they force us we would not because according to our customs/traditions she has to have a traditional ceremony before wedding i will run my business online abroad in 3 months.