alohabob

Thank you JenniferJarin so much for your information. Just so I get this straight and am not reading something you did not say I will restate.

“Technically, an I-134 is not a legally binding document and therefore a joint sponsor can

submit an I-134.”

I submitted a proper I-134 for my father as a joint sponsor. I do not know if the terms co-sponsor and joint sponsor are synonymous. There is no box to check on the I-134 to indicate anything about sponsorship. I believe this leaves wide discretionary powers to the consular and told them so. Maybe it is vague for this very reason.

“Technically, an I-134 is not a legally binding document and therefore a joint sponsor can submit an I-134, but it is not really helpful unless this joint sponsor is a very

close relative or long time friend of the Petitioner. “

I am the Petitioner and my father is both a close relative and long time friend.

“If the Petitioner's income is low, a credible letter offering employment to

the applicant can also be considered.”

This I am enclosing along with my 2007 income documentation that chris4gretchen and pushbrk recommended doing.

So thank you JenniferJarin for you information. I thought I had everything covered, but two different consulars told me in speaking to me at the embassy, not in written form, that the K-1 visa does not use co-sponsorships. I will try again, by email, after they receive my additional evidence.

Thanks everyone for the support.

AlohaBob

Update to my posting

Aloha everyone,

First let me thank all who responded to my plea. I am glad there is a forum where people are truly helping one another get through the maze of bureaucracy Let me update my story because some of you asked very pertinent questions and I want to answer all in case it helps others.

I received my receipt from the USCIS dated 12/08/06 and I was elated. I figured I had a chance at happiness with a wonderful woman. Everything went great up to the actual interview on 10/24/07. I made two big mistakes for which I have no excuse. When I read what the embassy wanted I assumed the evidence of our relationship was already approved by the USCIS when I sent them our pictures and plane tickets, etc. So I go to the interview with my approval notice in hand. Big mistake. What the embassy wants is proof of an “ongoing relationship”, my quote. As Jit and I have talked on the phone and emailed everyday for the last year and a half I had the records of an ongoing relationship, just not the brains. I have since printed all this info and will be sending this off to Bangkok next week.

The second problem was the income. I made about $16,000 on paper for 2006 and I need at least $29,688 which is 125% over the poverty level for Hawaii. Things are always higher in Hawaii. My father is 89 years old, retired, lives alone, in great health and has just under a million dollars. He fills out the I-134 with supporting documents.

I, on the other hand submit my I-134 with out documents because I honestly thought they would trash it anyway. Also I would like to point out that signing the I-134 also allows them to secure a bond from the sponsor to guarantee support. I figured this was a pretty strong document and that my father’s support would secure the support portion of the visa.

Some asked what the paper was they gave me. It was a copy of a paper they use for denial under section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. It had 5 blocks they could check for denial.

Block 1: Evidence of you relationship. They checked this block as explained above.

Block 2: Police Certificate from Thai Authorities No Mark

Block 3: Medical Exam Results No Mark

Block 4: I-864 or I-134 Affidavit of Support completed by your petitioner or joint sponsor No Mark

Note: Curious this is on the form but they don’t accept it for K-1

Block 5: Other: This block checked with the description written in. “Income insufficient. Please submit evidence of you income in 2007” was written in.

The consular officer was signed J. Reilly

I have sent a message to the fellow that apparently used a co-sponsor asking for details. Maybe his story will work.

If I find out that they will not accept the co-sponsorship then I will have to wait until January to raise my income and increase my tax liability to qualify on my own.

Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

Sincerely, AlohaBob

Aloha everyone,

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide to solve my dilemma. On October 24th, 2007 I went to the interview with my fiancée in Bangkok. I dragged the children (2) on a 5 hour bus ride to Bangkok and Jit’s sister as babysitter. I felt I had everything in order but they found a few problems.

I knew my I-134 was deplorable and stressed over it for a month. Then I came across information about using a co-sponsor. Well my father has enough assets for ten fiancées and I felt I had a strong case. I included a letter from an officer of the bank explaining my father’s accounts and included how much he had in the bank. His I-134 was signed and notarized just like mine. However, the consular told me I cannot use a co-sponsor for a K-1 visa. I argued I could not find anything that excluded a co-sponsor and that it was within the jurisdiction of the consular approving the visa. Well, they did not buy that and when she went and talked to a senior consular he told her there is no basis in the law to let them accept co-sponsorship. I was completely blown away as I was sure everything was in order. I did not record the webpage where I found out about co-sponsorships and that was a mistake on my part as I would now advise using the mother of all paper trails, Keep every paper associated with this process.

This is where I am and now need to find out if this is true or not. If anyone has info about using a co-sponsor on a K-1 visa please let me know how it is done.

Thanks, AlohaBob