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You can join https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/797080-march-2023-k1-to-noa2-to-nvc-to-embassy/ Check the London consulate info https://www.visajourney.com/consulates/index.php?ctry=United Kingdom&cty=London and maybe follow other Timelines with UK beneficiaries https://www.visajourney.com/portals/index.php?country=United+Kingdom It would help with the visajourney stats if you fill out your Timeline as well.

This is the link: https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/alerts/uscis-removes-60-day-rule-for-civil-surgeon-signatures-on-form-i-693#:~:text=U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services,485%2C Application to Register Permanent

We called USCIS today at 800-375-5283 and said "Infopass" to get a live agent. We asked about the courtesy email and the agent said yes that is sent as a courtesy notice that you do not have the I-693. We then explained that we had the DS-3025 (2022-04) overseas medical submitted with the I-485 (2022-07), the agent said yes she was able to see the DS-3025 in our documents (in myUSCIS documents tab). So when we asked if we need to do the I-693 medical, she just said this is a courtesy notice not an RFE, and we can follow the instructions in the courtesy email. When we asked if our interview has been waived, she said that currently there is no determination in the system. Okay, so no new info here because the phone agent can probably only see the same info in our account as we can. Here is my interpretation. After the Atlanta Field Office received our case, they sent the courtesy email to the cases that do not have the I-693 among their documents. That is not to say their DS-3025 is not compliant or not complete because USCIS probably haven't even looked at the case yet. Those fortunate to have their cases processed early probably had someone determine if the DS-3025 is compliant/complete, or if not, send a RFE for the I-693. Therefore, if you are so sure that your DS-3025 is compliant/complete, then ignore the Request for Form I-693 courtesy email. Then again if you are wrong, you risk delaying your case with an RFE. If you go thru with the courtesy email I-693 medical, you pay now and the I-693 will trump the DS-3025 whether it was compliant/complete, or not. So now, many cases going thru the Atlanta Field Office need to make that decision. https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798037-field-office-asking-for-i-693-medical-but-according-to-the-instructions-this-isnt-required-for-k-1-filing-aos-within-a-year-of-the-overseas-medical/ As for the 38.5 month delay and possibility of getting the 10-year GC, I'm starting to formulate a theory, which I will post later if anyone cares at https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798277-atlanta-field-office-385-months-wait-time/?tab=comments#comment-10823001 I'll post our I-693 medical experience here after we see the Civil Surgeon if anyone cares to read it.

Yeah, the Atlanta Field Office is a real piece of work--with the processing time around 38.5 months now for K1-to-AOS I-485 filers. They get us all riled up with the Request for Form I-693 courtesy emails. https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798037-field-office-asking-for-i-693-medical-but-according-to-the-instructions-this-isnt-required-for-k-1-filing-aos-within-a-year-of-the-overseas-medical/?tab=comments#comment-10820530 https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/ I guess they got to keep us busy while waiting for the 38.5 months? Now if the wait times are really 38.5 months, then they must be handing out 10-year Green Cards like candy? But the latest visajourney Timelines for decisions from Atlanta FO is 12/2022, with wait times about 15 months? https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/aoslist.php?vtype=1&op8=Atlanta+GA&interview=&xfr=&op1=d&op2=d&op3=&op4=1&op5=5%2C6%2C8%2C9%2C10%2C11&cfl=0 This link may expire, so I'll post the dated pic of the Timeline search. I'm trying to get some real cases to corroborate the 38.5 months wait time? If you are a K1-to-AOS filer that received the 10-year GC because of the I-485 delays past your 2-year marriage date, or if you know of some couple that did, please post here or let me know. Thanks for your attention in reading this or responding to this post.

I got the same email and I plan on going thru with the I-693 if only to get some movement from the Atlanta Field Office? https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/ The Civil Surgeon that we got quoted 250 (paperwork) + 750 (blood test), but our health insurance will cover the 750. https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798160-how-likely-will-i-get-a-rfe-ds-3025/?tab=comments#comment-10822068 If anyone is NOT following thru with the I-693 medical in the courtesy email, and the I-485 case is delayed beyond the 2-year marriage date, will the Atlanta Field Office grant the 10-year GC? https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/797800-aos-to-10-year-gc/ With the current wait time of 38.5 months, is anyone in Atlanta Field Office getting the 10-year GC? If anyone knows of any K1-to-AOS cases getting the 10-year GC because of the delays, please let me know. Thanks.

You are correct. Although I don't think there are many K1-to-AOS cases that got the 10-year GC? https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/797800-aos-to-10-year-gc/ If you know of any, please let me know. Thanks. BTW, I tried to call the 800-375-5283 today, but just got the answering bot that nothing is due in my case, which is what the case status shows. There is no option to ask about the courtesy email. Do you know how to get to the local field office? Since the email came out of the Atlanta Field Office, I don't think the USCIS system recognizes the courtesy email? At the same time, it is the Atlanta Field Office that will be making the decision on the case.

I agree we received en masse email. Maybe it is just the Atlanta FO "rock salt shotgun" notification to everyone that they have the case now and that they will prioritize the I-693 cases while supporting some public health policy especially with the current Atlanta FO backlog of 35-month wait time? Or not...but at least we have some response and action that we can take while in the queue for the 35-month wait? And as you pointed out dismissing it could lead to more worries. And the last thing we want is to delay our case even more when we could have followed thru on the I-693 medical. I'll post any updates here as we go thru the medical process and see if there are any progress to our case? At least others can use our experience to help make their best decision.

Yes. Thanks. I understand where you are coming from. 3.C.2 says "...you must still show proof that you complied with the vaccination record". Without going into specifics, most of the assumption of those getting the I-693 courtesy mail or RFE is that the DS-3025 was properly completed by the overseas medical. With all due respect, whether the DS-3025 was or was not complete is not determined by us or the overseas medical, USCIS reserves the right to determine that or determine that with a US Civil Surgeon if necessary. US CBP probably doesn't have a doctor at the airport either to determine that when the foreigner enters the US. I consider the courtesy email less strict than a RFE. We all can choose how to play the hands that we are dealt with. I consider the courtesy email a small raise by USCIS that I can easily call and stay in the game. 😂

Thanks. Keep in mind the Atlanta Field Office wait time is 35 months. So if we do the I-693 medical and not submit and wait for the interview, the wait could be beyond the valid two year and USCIS could blame us and the I-693 is invalid anyways? If we do submit I-693 at their specified instruction date, then any delays is their fault?

The problem is that the I-693 medical is dated, so not sure how long it is good for? Since the email gave us specific dates to drop-off, I'm assuming they will look at it in the timely manner. If we miss the drop-off date and just assume to wait for the next USCIS action or interview, no telling how long that would be? For this to be a mistake, it seems too coincidental that so many have gotten similar courtesy mail or RFE? If anything, I think this courtesy email is just Atlanta FO way to notify that they got the case now from the National Benefit Center since our receipt number starts with IOE*?

To get a copy of the I-693 from this doctor is like another 250, and USCIS wants a sealed copy of the original. So paying for 250 for an unsealed copy seems like a waste of money. Do keep everyone posted of your call tomorrow and the number you called. If it is positive, then I might try as well?

Yeah, I think we are just going to go thru the I-693 medical instead of resisting. https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798160-how-likely-will-i-get-a-rfe-ds-3025/?tab=comments#comment-10822068

I did not call USCIS. Since a lot of K1-to-AOS are getting this courtesy mail or RFE, the path of least resistance is to just go thru with the I-693 medical to avoid any unknowns later on. https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798160-how-likely-will-i-get-a-rfe-ds-3025/?do=findComment&comment=10822068 The only thing that I'm worried about since the doctor will provide the sealed envelope for us to drop-off at USCIS, we won't have any receipt or assurance that the form is correct or USCIS can just say again we don't have all the medical requirements again? But if we can ignore the courtesy email, then it shouldn't really matter if we go thru another medical or not?

We got the infamous Request for Form I-693 courtesy email. See https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/ In setting the appointment with the Civil Surgeon near us, the doctor registration portal did ask us to bring all vaccination records (previous DS-3025) including Covid and latest flu vaccination. The cost is 250 (paperwork and doctor consultation) + 750 (blood test), with possible extra costs for X-rays if during the medical exam the Civil Surgeon sees the need. My insurance will cover the 750, but we have to pay for the 250.

July 2022 filer here with Atlanta FO. I got one. See https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/

Hello August filers, We got the infamous I-693 courtesy email. See the entire email at https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/

What do you mean by a little confused? What should I ask the Tier2 customer service to elaborate? Thanks.

Hello July filers, We got the infamous I-693 courtesy email. See the entire email at https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/798091-request-for-form-i-693-courtesy-email/

Greetings all, K1-to-AOS filer here. We got the infamous Request for I-693 courtesy email although I'm not sure if this is an official RFE? Yes, like most others who got this notice, we submitted the DS-3025 and vaccination record from the K1 medical in the I-485 within 6-months of the medical (see our Timeline or Profile). When we got this email, there were no updates to our case from "Being Actively Reviewed". A couple of other threads with the similar I-693 courtesy mail were interpreted from "ignore" to "follow the instruction" are at: https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/796868-i-693-courtesy-letter-request/ https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/794622-courtesy-letter-re-i-693/ Courtesy mails in some cases in the past seem to be more suggestions than actual must do? But we got the courtesy EMAIL. I am showing the email below in its entirety so that I don't misinterpret anything. I like to ask for any expert opinion who read this to kindly reply how you would interpret this email? And did I read it correctly that I need to drop off the sealed I-693 at the Atlanta Field Office location at the specific dates below because I obviously can't scan a sealed document and upload to the myUSCIS account? Thanks in advance for any response. March 24, 2023 ***PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL*** PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL***PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL*** COURTESY EMAIL XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Your Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status does not include a completed and signed Form I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record. Please submit a completed Form I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record. Civil Surgeons and the Form I-693 A USCIS civil surgeon must complete and sign the form, and you must also sign the form. If the civil surgeon refers you to a specialist, the specialist must include his or her medical exam results and complete the proper sections of the Form I-693 before the civil surgeon may sign the form. Important: Only a designated civil surgeon authorized by USCIS to conduct medical examinations is qualified to complete the Form I-693. The civil surgeon must sign and date the Form I-693. Signatures by a nurse, physician’s assistant, or a doctor not designated as a civil surgeon are not acceptable. You must sign and date the Form I-693 when instructed to do so by the civil surgeon. The original completed Form I-693 must be sealed in a separate envelope by the civil surgeon. The sealed envelope must be returned, unopened, to this office. A list of designated civil surgeons can be obtained by calling the USCIS Contact Center at 1-800-375-5283, or via the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov and using the MyUSCIS Find a Doctor tool at my.uscis.gov/findadoctor. You will need to provide your zip code or address. If you are hearing impaired, please call the USCIS Contact Center TDD at 1-800-767-1833. Important: All Forms I-693 signed by civil surgeons on or after October 5, 2022, must use the 07/19/2022 edition of Form I-693. USCIS will not accept the 09/13/2021 version (or any previous editions) if the civil surgeon signed the Form I-693 after October 4, 2022. Reminder: Effective October 1, 2021, applicants subject to the immigration medical examination must complete the COVID-19 vaccine series before the civil surgeon can complete an immigration medical examination and sign Form I-693. This applies to Form I-693 signed by civil surgeon on or after October 1, 2021. Additional: If your application is based on your marriage to a United States Citizen (USC) or a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR), and you or your spouse have not yet submitted evidence of the bona fides of your marriage, you may submit this evidence at this time to accelerate the processing of the decision on your case. If you wish to submit supplemental documentation, you may do so by bringing the documentation to the Atlanta Field Office. You may drop the documents off on Saturday, April 15, 2023, or Saturday April 22, 2023, from 09:00 am to 01:00 pm. Our address is as follows: USCIS Atlanta Field Office 2150 Parklake Dr. NE Atlanta, GA 30345 Please include a copy of this e-mail with your Form I-693 to help us identify your case. If your application is based on your marriage to a USC or an LPR and you would like to submit evidence of the bona fides of your marriage, please submit that evidence, with a copy of this notice, either: To the field office address above, or, If available, online by uploading the evidence through your USCIS account. Sincerely, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Atlanta Field Office Ref: 5120

If I'm not mistaken, I think ChatGPT bots all the internet for the information source including Visajourney to train the AI? The reliability of the source still remains.

Since I haven't seen many delayed AOS to 10-year Green Card cases, I asked ChatGPT for some online resources. This is how ChatGPT responded: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have the capability to browse the internet or access online posts in real-time. However, I can provide you with general information about the I-485 filing and the process of obtaining a green card through marriage. When an individual marries a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, they may be eligible to apply for a green card through marriage. The process typically involves filing an I-485 application with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to adjust status to permanent resident. In cases where the marriage is less than two years old at the time of filing the I-485 application, the applicant may initially receive a conditional green card that is valid for two years. To remove the conditions and obtain a permanent green card, the couple must file a joint petition during the 90-day period before the conditional green card expires. However, in some cases, an I-485 application may be delayed past the two-year mark due to processing backlogs or other factors outside of the applicant's control. In these situations, it may still be possible to obtain a 10-year green card by demonstrating that the marriage was bona fide (genuine) and that the applicant meets all other eligibility requirements. To demonstrate the bona fide nature of the marriage, the applicant may need to provide evidence such as joint bank accounts, joint leases or mortgages, photographs of the couple together, and affidavits from friends and family members attesting to the legitimacy of the relationship. It's important to note that each case is unique, and the outcome of an I-485 application can depend on a variety of factors. If you have specific questions about your situation, it's recommended that you consult with an immigration attorney for guidance. I can see the day that ChatGPT replacing an immigration attorney 😂

Haha @Family. Thanks @Mike E. Since we've waited this long, I'm thinking that delaying the I-485 approval till after the 2-year of marriage to qualify for the 10-year GC may be more preferable? It would be cheaper and less paperwork not having to go thru the I-751? I'm still looking for cases where K1-to-AOS filers were granted 10-year GC because of the I-485 delay? If anyone can refer individual cases or know maybe a group online, I really appreciate it.

Greetings Everyone, We are a K1-to-AOS filer with our Field Office wait time of 35 months. I'm trying to find similar cases who have had extended AOS wait times. 1. Please let me know if anyone here has done the K1-to-AOS and got the 10-year GC because of the delayed I-485 processing beyond the 2-year of marriage? 2. Also, if the K1-to-AOS is to be granted the 10-year GC because of the delayed I-485 processing, is the I-751 ROC still required before filing the N-400 under the 5-year rule? Thanks in advance for any responses.

Yes to everything you listed, except: Can not work until the EAD or GC. Can not travel outside of the country until AP or GC. The foreign spouse can be added as beneficiary to the retirement accounts, 401K, etc. Make social connections like friends, church groups, etc. since you can ask them to write letters for proof of ongoing relationship, etc. Build evidence of bona fide marriage. Also, foreign spouse can take classes to build up skills. Some schools may want to charge international student tuition for degree track courses so you may want to research the best options. My foreign spouse is taking cheap online courses for certifications instead of degree. And after the foreign spouse gets state residency, the spouse can pay in-state tuition for degree programs.

Any bank, UPS, FedEx, Post Office, etc should have public notary. Some may charge a fee.