11 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Nah it's about him getting butthurt over someone with a great deal of expertise in epidemiology saying something that he claims to have 'discovered', even though it's a known scientific thing that any epidemiologist would know. It was dripping with condescension, mansplaining, and arrogance. He has made a lot of scientists irritated by his armchair internet expertise. 

I love data and I like Nathan, but he is very full of himself.  Data nerds really are the most annoying kind of need 

If I start a restaurant, it will be called "just desserts" , wild guess what the menu looks like. I might even put one in the desert. 

2 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I call it what it is, no punches held.  Ditto the falsely inflated covid case counts we have to look at daily.

You call what you see, no issue there for me because it is apparent you don't have any expertise in the subject. Just your opinion, no facts put forth and more importantly no solutions put forward to get us out of this crisis.

My views are closest to category B. Yours?

45 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I'm in the group of not being in any group that Nate wants to put people into because he's currently getting his backside handed to him on twitter for something his gigantic ego said today and it didn't put him into a good light.

looking now...its not about the NHL draft?

36 minutes ago, laylalex said:

We're both Group B in this household. Given that we're both now isolating and waiting on our PCR results (oooooooo maybe we had the withdrawn ones! ), we see the benefit of masking up and taking precautions where necessary. We both work in fully vaccinated offices where we don't wear masks unless dealing with a client/outside vendor. But my coworker volunteers at a homeless shelter -- where she is always masked -- but sometimes the residents there aren't. One of these guys was diagnosed with COVID. So we're doing the right thing by double checking we're okay. A couple days indoors is something we can both live with. I feel for the most part that I'm striking a good balance between living a normal-ish life without masking where I can, but indoors in public I'm more wary of and we have county requirements to mask up there anyway. 

And regardless of what was bandied about, PCR tests are valid.  They are just error prone if the staff are not well trained.

10 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

          

Did you type that with a straight face???

 

Also, the meme is off a bit, considering 50% of Americans are fully vaccinated.

you can call it a meme, I call it data

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I have changed my position to confused, and I am vaccinated and don't care about the virus. 

 

I am not wearing a mask because someone else doesn't want to take it and thinks it's all fake news.

I think you  fit into a new group, Group F.  We don't out the top seeds there so there is a chance you can make the semifinals .

42 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

 

You first.

 

I asked first, you first

Nate Silver weighs in on the range of current views. What is closest to your perspective?.

47 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Life is full of risks and personal choices, in the end we are all going to assume room temperature.

We hope not as a father of a young child.

Sad irony

Republican official who mocked COVID in final Facebook post dies of virus in Texas

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

So since we are trying to save bandwidth these days, let's revisit the little girl Biden inappropriately touched back in 2015.  Seems he did more than just brush her...

 

 

https://trendingpolitics.com/remember-her-girl-who-was-touched-by-biden-in-viral-video-is-all-grown-up-says-biden-pinched-her-nipple-crugg/

 

Even Breitbart is not publishing this story.  You have to dig deep to find this junk.

49 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

thats different

 

Just for the record I did not think Franken did enough to have to resign

 

See what you made me do 

I think she practices some sort of witchcraft

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Maybe biggest deflection of all times. 

1 wrong + 1 wrong does not = a right

Why don't you start a thread about it

You are equating paying an underdaged girl for sex ( alleged) to what?

4 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Can we do Matt Gaetz now?

phrasing?

Arkansas Governor Hutchinson Regrets Signing Mask Ban Into Law as State Sees Delta Surge

33 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

With all the flip-flops from the CDC in the past year, do you really think there is an answer to your question?  Let's just pray that someone will come up with a more accurate test, so the obfuscation can come to an end.

So you haven't looked into the tests that are in use. 

What about  the other tests in use. Will they be withdrawn of December 31st 2021?  

5 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Best explanation I have heard! 

 

The scientific research  is sorely lacking in this area.  I will be the control group and drink Carlsberg, the rest of you can drink that English stuff.  Anyone who doesn't check in weekly we will presume has COVID-19 . 

38 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Can anyone actually explain the falling numbers in India and the UK which also had huge exposure to the Delta Variant?

 

Ask a Covid expert anything about the UK’s falling infection numbers

 

https://news.yahoo.com/ask-covid-expert-anything-uk-193135668.html

Warm beer, that nasty stuff is carrying all kinds of microbes and I bet  the delta variant is in there inoculating the population.

7 hours ago, InhaleExhale said:

You WANT others to do as YOU wish. For a reason that you can neither explain nor cite any applicable scientific data for.
I am not sure where you are getting this perceived entitlement from but we are all individualistic human beings that have autonomy over our own bodies. We assess each our own risk/benefit ratio and make our own decisions.

Some of us read science and some don't. The ones who don't cannot explain why they claim certain things but they keep claiming them.

The only thing you have convinced me of is that I was wise to take the vaccine, wear masks where prudent, practice social distancing and listen to public health officials carefully and make up my own mind.  Thank you for doing such a wonderful job providing an example of why I don't get my medical advice from people unqualified to deliver it. 

2 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

I can see a few flaws in this dialogue, buts start with the  comparitive downside. 

If you are poorly trained, ill equipped, have the wrong gear or find your self in the wrong situation, a gun can have lethal consequences ( not the intended ones)

If you are poorly trained or equipped on  mask use it may have the effect of no mask at all or may be socially humiliating because you didn't know the blue side went out and the folds go down ( this happened to a friend)

The Anti-vaccine Con Job Is Becoming Untenable

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/vaccine-refusers-dont-want-blue-americas-respect/619627/

Why targets of deliberate deception often hesitate to admit they’ve been deceived.

Something very strange has been happening in Missouri: A hospital in the state, Ozarks Healthcare, had to create a “private setting” for patients afraid of being seen getting vaccinated against COVID-19. In a video produced by the hospital, the physician Priscilla Frase says, “Several people come in to get vaccinated who have tried to sort of disguise their appearance and even went so far as to say, ‘Please, please, please don’t let anybody know that I got this vaccine.’” Although they want to protect themselves from the coronavirus and its variants, these patients are desperate to ensure that their vaccine-skeptical friends and family never find out what they have done.

Missouri is suffering one of the worst COVID-19 surges in the country. Some hospitals are rapidly running out of ICU beds. To Americans who rushed to get vaccinated at the earliest opportunity, some Missourians’ desire for secrecy is difficult to understand. It’s also difficult to square with the common narrative that vaccine refusal, at least in conservative areas of the country, is driven by a lack of respect or empathy from liberals along the coasts. “Proponents of the vaccine are unwilling or unable to understand the thinking of vaccine skeptics—or even admit that skeptics may be thinking at all,” lamented a recent article in the conservative National Review. Writers across the political spectrum have urged deference and sympathy toward holdouts’ concerns about vaccine side effects and the botched CDC messaging about masking and airborne transmission early in the pandemic. But these takes can’t explain why holdouts who receive respect, empathy, and information directly from reliable sources remain unmoved—or why some people are afraid to tell their loved ones about being vaccinated.

What is going on here? Sociology suggests that pundits and policy makers have been looking at vaccine refusal all wrong: It’s not an individual problem, but a social one. That’s why individual information outreach and individual incentives—such as Ohio’s Vax-a-Million program, intended to increase vaccine uptake with cash prizes and college scholarships—haven’t worked. Pandemics, by definition, are collective problems. They propagate and kill because people live in communities. As a result, addressing pandemics requires understanding interpersonal dynamics—not just what promotes trust among people, but which behaviors convey status or lead to ostracism

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Doesn’t this describe a lot of folks in these types of positions?  Btw, I am not a member of the NRA, but are they getting taxpayer subsidies?

They have a 503 c (4) status which makes them tax exempt. I am not sure how they swing that with the donations to political races, but they do. That part is grey area enough, but when you toss in the self dealing and personal enrichment that LaPierre is engaging in, it makes it more gauling.