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I think it does. The process sounds pretty similar. At this point I feel we will end up in front of a judge.

Apparently you think I'm lying although I don't know why. I'm not used to being called a liar. I'm done with this conversation.

What you don't know is that I am 78 & my wife is 74. Time means something to us that it doesn't mean to most of you. The downside of CR1 is the processing time. Close to double. I doubt this means much to my friend. I'm still hoping to hear from a CR1 visa holder.

Like most assumptions yours is wrong. The bigger picture here is that I have a friend who is about to make the CR1/K1 decision and I'm trying to give him good advice. My K1 bride and I have gone through the K1 process without a serious hitch until now. We decided almost immediately, long before entering the US, that we would never mingle our assets even though we live in a community property state. That has proven to be a mistake we have yet to overcome. Proving you didn't do something (evade immigration laws) is actually impossible. I'm trying to offer my friend an alternative. I thought it would be simple to find someone here who had been through the CR1 ROC/AOS process and could tell me if it was the same I am going through. I hope I've clarified what I'm doing so we all can stay on topic.

Thanks for your suggestion but it doesn't answer my question. I have read that verbiage multiple times.

I do: A K1 visa holder must eventually provide to USCIS enough evidence to convince them that the marriage is not a means of evading immigration laws. Must a CR1 visa holder provide the same type of evidence for the same purpose when they file to have their conditions removed?

This all sounds like semantics to me but I'll restate my question. Is ROC the same as AOS?

That's not what I read.

Well, that's what it is but I thought it was called AOS (Adjustment of Status) as with K1.

I'm wondering if the AOS process for CR1 visa holders is the same process that K1 visa holders are subjected to. CR1 holders only need to be married for 2 years to avoid AOS completely, whereas K1 visa holders can't even apply for AOS for 3 years. Doesn't seem fair. My wife and I have been married & living together every day for almost 5 years and we're still getting pummeled by USCIS.

You added the word "therapist" to your list of places to seek help. How could I misconstrue that? You're entitled to your opinion. I'm just not interested in the opinion of someone who suspects I'm mentally disturbed......or worse.

I recognize that USCIS has absolute power over immigration. In fact that is the problem. An old expression says:" Absolute power corrupts absolutely" Truer words were never spoken. I recognize the futility of resisting the rules but at the same time I recognize the benefits of pointing out governmental abuse when I see it. Apparently you don't.

Two responses to your post: First, thank you for the link. I will see what they have to offer. Second, your suggestion that I'm mentally ill is insulting. If you really think, that I'd prefer you reply no further. Recognizing a governmental abuse does not constitute mental illness. An old expression says: "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Truer words were never spoken. USCIS has absolute power over immigrants and they have definitely become corrupted.

I only know about the K1s getting screwed over. If you say there are others, I believe you.The guilty party is the one who gets deported. Maybe you don't consider that a punishment but I do. And if my wife is guilty so am I. We did the same thing. As far as I know USCIS doesn't press charges against the US citizen. I'm sure their legal department told them it would never fly. I believe I could convince a judge to see this my way although I have no plans to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if the immigration judges already agree with me. I'm sorry you don't. BTW, there's nothing even slightly edgy about our marriage. We have lived together as a married couple every minute of every day since her plane landed in the US. I would think nearly 5 years of that would be enough to satisfy even USCIS.

I beg to differ with you. Someone is out to get me but not just me. It's every US citizen spouse of a K1 bride. The US constitution says that all citizens are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That includes me. There's little doubt that USCIS is threatening to deport my wife if we don't prove we didn't break any of their rules pertaining to our marriage. And, we don't even get the benefit of a court of law. If USCIS finds 90%+ of K1 marriages to be legitimate then clearly there's no need to threaten deportation. An old expression: It's better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person be found guilty.