MDR

For the most part, Russia could care less what someone's doing here. If she's stamped one way in her Russian passport, that's how they're going to recognize her. Whether or not she shows them an American green card has nothing to do with it, on their end. (Other than maybe trying to get some money out of her.)

If she has no one to trust the flat to, selling it before she leaves would be a good idea. If she can find someone to care for it, she could keep it and the status of her citizenship here or there would have little bearing on the legality of ownership. Her location would be a big factor though!

Can her son set up a bank account to have the pension automatically deposited each month? He could then transfer the funds to an international bank or use a credit card/ATM card to withdraw them here in the States. Or, in true Russian fashion, he could "sell" the payments to someone for cash, and then divert the checks or payments to that person for the remainder of the time he'd be paid. Kind of like a cash-option on an annuity, except the mafia would probably be involved. Or, maybe even someone like an uncle or grandmother.

Thanks everyone for the information,

It seems to just not worry about it is the thing to do.

I told her she will probably have the best of both worlds.

she is checking into the banking of the pension, because now it is deposited into a bank

in Moscow. and they withdraw from Kyrgyzstan.

she will find out if his present card is good internationally.

sorry it took so long to answer but our work season has just started.

I will no longer have internet everyday, but will be dropping by from time to time to check in

and see how everyone is doing

good luck, Mike

MDR,

registration in russia remains for as long as you want. moving here, getting green card or us citizenship changes nothing. only when person living here decides to register here with russian consulate this person surrenders the registration in russia (that's rarely done nowdays and usually is a consequence of personal circumstances or desire to slightly easier renew russian pasport).

obender

Thanks obender, you've been a big help

much appreaciated

and thanks to others also.

Mike

MDR,

russian citizenship never expires. that's first. assuming american citizenship does not by any means prevents anybody from keeping russian citizenship too. that's second.

another thing is that US will not recognize it but who cares... it's a grey area in americal law. one can leave with this his whole life and never notice this greyness...

in fact, to specifically get rid of russian citizenship will cost you $500, some pain in filing russian forms, and a year of wait.

i'm speaking out of personal experience and experience of thousands of other people.

obender

Wow, Satellite, I was just about to send this post when I noticed your reply,

thanks, It may take a while to digest, but it is copy and pastable to Natasha

Thanks obender,

That is good information to know,

Well I am sorry, It seems i have asked for the wrong information,

I just talked to her and she said, "that is good you asked about citizenship,

but what I wanted to know was registration",

From what I gather of this conversation,

she is registered in Tver

and if she was to move to Moscow for example she would have to register there

So, she is thinking if she moves to U.S she will have to unregister in Tver thus losing her flat.

But looks to me to just do nothing and leave this a grey area also like citizenship.

But we also both agree she should sell it before there is nothing left.

and then there is her 15 year old son who collects about $ 60 USD in pension benefits from his Fathers retirement until he is 18.

she knows he will lose this also not that it is "big money",but it does help.

I have told her we will try to get by without it.

she is so sweet to worry we could use the money.

Thanks again for all the replys, Mike

My impression and I could be wrong is that when you get your US Citizenship you swear alegience to the USA and give up your previous citizenship. I think it is possilbe for children born of that marriage to have dual citizenship but I think it is not possible for an immigrant. Someone else can correct me if I am wrong.

Different countries have different rules, but one is not required (in most instances) to renounce their previous citizenship. Certain countries, i.e. North Korea, are mandatory, but others have the possibility of dual or transitioning to single.

Thanks guys for replies,

She pretty much knows that if K-1 goes through she will have to sell the flat, because she could never keep an eye on it, or trust anybody for a long period of time,

All her last renters had to pay was utilities and when she visited last summer, they had jumpered the electric around the meter, previous renters stole the hot water heater in bathroom and parts of the one in the kitchen, just crazy.

So I'll search a few sites and see what I can dig up.

she was just curious if I knew a time frame.

She is leaving for Tver at end of the month for police report,

and she thinks she will try to sell it now.

thanks, mike

Was wondering if anybody knows when during the Imm. process does Russian citznship end.

The reason I ask is She owns a apartment in Tver. That was given to her husband by the Govt.

Her husband was in the military and after retirement given this flat.

anyways she has been widowed for 6 years, so it is hers, and she knows that as soon as she gets U.S. Citznship she will lose this flat, she rents this now while living in Kyrgyzstan,

Does anyone know when Russian citznship is lost in this process.

She intends to sell the flat before she loses it.

Any info sure would help.

Thanks, Mike

Received our RFE on Saturday, I guess they can't find my passport photos

I know they were in there... but, oh well take some more on monday and hope that does it.

We have also received the message our RFE is in the mail also.

Well lets just hope its something easily corrected

They must be busy today, also touched

Good Luck to everyone.