Romeo and Juliet

As @Lynxyonok said "Having a denied application on the grounds of insufficient data would be a major red flag in my opinion." So, to answer the question, not having a red flag per se. Better it seems... Not so? If I withdraw the application it is better than being denied. In my opinion USCIS cannot have a definitive conclusion for themselves as to why this withdrawal happened exactly. Maybe I just changed my mind, or whatever might have happened given it is all not easy in the Russian direction right now. Actually very hard. Everything you do is not easy with Russian fiancé cases. As much as I would like this to work out, with my Russian fiancé, this is becoming dicey and a bit of a headache at this point. The question itself how can she have an interview even with RFE satisfied? Where? None of the places in Russia are doing interviews. The only place is Poland (where it is hard to get an entry visa to even go to Poland). I don't know any possible ways to make it happen even with the interview approved. And with these documents for RFE that is hard to produce? Too much hardship. So no win, either way. I might be wrong though. If someone can tell me the solutions, I would be so happy, but no light at the end of the tunnel in the Russian direction. I have no answers as to how we'll be able to get the actual K-1 (even with RFE satisfied) because of the interviews not available in Russian language, as they were available in the prior years. And the complications with RFE are just adding to the hardship making it all questionable. If, let's say, I hire an attorney and that attorney manages to produce the documents from decades ago to satisfy RFE, what about the interview? How? Where? Also switching this from K-1 to CR-1 ... ultimately not a solution either: an interview is still required.

@Letspaintcookies THANK YOU SIR! Finally I got some credible answer to the simplest question! : - "This magic number of 5: is it "every application that has been filed?" or "is it only denied/approved applications" or "it is only the approved application count that really counts?": for the life of me why some people react to this as it is a taboo question? Why so?" So the answer for everybody interested in the Community stands at this point: (but note, YMMV) One can file multiple I-129F petitions (more than 5 for sure: that is what I was actually worried about the most that this one could be limited), One can be denied or approved multiple I-129F petitions (more than 5 for sure), But the most that were actually approved petitions historically is limited to 5 maximum, according to VJ history. That said, this controversial question, IMHO, has yet an unrealized dependency (I am sure it might upset somebody me pointing this out): - there is a big difference between: But the most that were actually approved petitions historically is limited to 5 maximum, with 5 fiancés becoming spouses of the petitioner (which I suspect was the case: all 5 ended in a marriage, otherwise the question itself makes no sense) vs But the most that were actually approved petitions historically is limited to 5 maximum, with some of the beneficiaries going back home (not ending in a marriage, which is just sort of "visiting" and not a meaningful use of the 5-time possible allotment): not the correct answer I assume. Sorry if my question and the final answer I got did upset anybody. But I am sure other people will appreciate the answer: Since it is nice to know that one has up to 5 shots (YMMV) to bring beneficiaries ending with a marriage. : the proper answer And sorry that some did not like the question up to deleting the post to begin with. At least it makes me feel at ease: if I've already used one shot and reloading, I am still okay up to five successful shots! Thank you! Not that I need all of them! But Nice to know nevertheless )))))))) Especially with my second shot being fired into the foot.

The relationship is genuine, lasting many years, meeting many times, photographs, friends, relatives, ... a lot. But the USCIS is killing everything by asking for some documents that I don't even know how I can even get now... Related to some pesky thing I've mentioned in my background question answers, not much giving it a thought that it could be any problem. Now they opened a can of worms (in their imagination I guess) and picking one by one at a time dragging time. Yes, as people suggest going the marriage route might be a better option, and it seems logical: "Having a denied application on the grounds of insufficient data would be a major red flag in my opinion." - sounds logical too. But all needs to be considered. This is why I am here. "Are you on the additional RFE step already?" - yes, we're exactly at RFE steps. Being requested more evidence that I cannot at this moment (without help of an attorney seem not even able to produce: it is so pesky nobody would even have references to such paperwork passed decades of time ). "I've seen 4 cases reopened in the past year - do not give up." - 4 seems awfully low number if we're talking about a considerably higher number of denied applications : ( That being said the situation regarding Russia right now is unstable, to say the least. Going even the marriage route is still super not easy it seems. There are still interviews that they basically make impossible, there is still a ton of obstacles. This is why I am considering giving up on the whole thing all together. and being forced to research other ways to find a spouse starting thinking what else I can do. Therefore I asked the question of how many tries for a fiancé visa do I actually have in life: - This magic number of 5: is it "every application that was ever filed?" or "is it only denied/approved applications" or "it is only approved application count": for the life of me why some people react to this as it is a taboo question? Why so? ''Having a denied application on the grounds of insufficient data would be a major red flag in my opinion" - I have a choice to fight and ultimately possibly lose not being able to produce very old documentation, or just give up... because fighting over this with USCIS could be counterproductive. What if I withdraw the application altogether before they deny it? Seems like a logical thing to do right now.

Yes, considering that roughly 15 years ago I had a very easy and fast approved K-1 case, which resulted in 10+ years successful marriage I thought to try again and thought that filing an I-129F petition is a piece of cake and everything should go just as smooth. Boy! Was I wrong! They, yes USCIS, made a big deal out of some, as I thought not important background question about myself, and made a very big deal out of it demanding more and more documents for something that quite possibly is not even possible to produce anymore... I am not stepping even one more step without an attorney anymore. I need to get one, whatever route I will need to take... This is just so ridiculous... Such a small mistake costs everything!

@iwannaplay54 : I respect your answer, but why is it a taboo question? It is hard to find the right partner for life. I think it does make sense to know: Okay, let me a bit rephrase: - this means only 5 times one can apply for different beneficiaries' K-1's. Period. Each application counts or - one can apply 5 or more times for different beneficiaries', but only 5 times visas can be either approved or denied (since an application can also be withdrawn, and withdrawn ones do not count in this scenario) or - one can apply 5 or more times for different beneficiaries' and these 5+ times visas can be denied, but only up to 5 times visas will be approved, at max (i.e. only successful approvals are considered in "5") I do not insist on someone answering this question, because it is only a side question. My main question was and remains: - Do denied or withdrawn applications count as attempts (of the allotment which has only a limited number) or not? That's all

They did not like how I answered a a background question about myself (I know, I should have hired an attorney). I am not in any way guilty, but they opened a can of worms and picking one at a time, enjoying it I guess...

So sorry, I am trying to understand the meaning (since there is a big difference): - this means only 5 times one can apply for different beneficiaries' K-1's or - one can apply 5 or more times for different beneficiaries', but only 5 times visas can be either approved or denied, and then you're out, no matter visas were approved or denied or - one can apply 5 or more times for different beneficiaries' and these 5+ times visas can be denied, but only up to 5 times visas will be approved, at max (i.e. only successful approvals are considered in "5")

Thank you : ) What is VJ? Should I then just withdraw the I-129F application?

Hello friends. Sorry to sound pessimistic, but life is not always fair... I want to ask a question and I've asked a similar question already in different words, but for some reason it was immediately deleted: I was told because I was not serious and was trolling.. But I wasn't and I am serious. Maybe I am just not a good story teller... So please consider: As far as I understand I get from USCIS only 3 chances in a lifetime to bring a fiancé into this country. I've already used one many years ago. After about 15 years the marriage is over. At this time, for a very long time I am getting through an ongoing I-29F process to get K-1 for my second attempt, but it doesn't look promising (USCIS is not being good/fair in this case at all, to say the least, even though my first case was superfast and simple: this time they are asking for more and more paperwork from decades ago that is not easy to get, I suppose because of the Russian origin of my fiancé), it looks like I need to hire an attorney, more process time, or... just give up. I tried to use search on this site and I tried googling in general, but I cannot find answers to what seems to be the simplest questions: - Actually, is this really true that I have only 3 chances in my lifetime to apply for a fiancé visa? (sorry, I am not an SME, I only heard that this is the case) - If a fiancé visa is denied, does this mean that you "loose 1 life"? (meaning you have 1 less attempt available left out of 3 for your lifetime allotment of the number of times to apply for fiancé visas) My fiancé is in Russia, and BTW, we've met years ago, way way before any "Russian agenda". But she doesn't speak English and it is superhard in the modern times to arrange for an interview in Russian language, even if the K-1 interview is approved (when the time comes for a K-1 interview for Russians: embassies are closed for Russians that had K-1 interviews available in Russian language, travel for Russian nationals is quite restricted, and so forth). All this makes me think that if by fiancé visa being denied I do not in fact "loose 1 attempt" out of 3 (and I still will have that attempt saved), I should just give up and try my chances somewhere else.. Life is short, to fight USCIS for even longer time at the end not even having a relatively humane way to interview is just an overkill... My main question is what do I loose by having an application (I-29F) denied automatically just by not providing to the USINS some old documents from decades ago? Will I still preserve my 2 lifetime chances to get fiancé visas? Please help with advise.. Sorry for a wordy message. I just wanted to explain clearly my concerns.