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Depends on your embassy. I believe Accra has been really slow getting interviews going post COVID. What’s your priority date?

Why would you knowingly input something that’s wrong to make it “consistent”? Consistently wrong? Just put the correct date in, it can get sorted out at the interview.

To know if they qualify for CSPA, need date of petition filed plus date of petition approval, plus date visa is available. Visa is not available yet. So the key question is what is the difference between filing date and petition approval date. The difference between those two is what you can subtract from the age to get CSPA age. So example if it took 2 years to approval, your son needs to be under 23 on the date a visa becomes available. If family is right and it’s only a year, yes your kid aged out already. This is nothing to do with whether or not they were listed. They simply are not eligible as derivatives because of age. However, once you get your own green cards then assuming they are still unmarried, you can file for them as over 21 sons of LPRs - that’s approx a 7-8 year wait. If they get married you can file after you become citizens, but that’s more like a 14-15 year wait.

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Correct, and approval is usually long before the PD is current for these cases. The wait is not for approval, it is for the priority date to become current.

Yes, that is why it is approximately 7 years, the 3 years you were thinking of applies to under 21.

Malaysia is in the fastest grouping for this age group. (You may have been thinking of under 21s, who are much faster.) If you had filed as soon as you immigrated in 2019 you could already have 3 years of the wait time past, I’d suggest you don’t delay any longer and file ASAP.

Huh? I refer you to the required civil documents for immigration. For everyone. The official DoS page, not the VJ guide. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/step-5-collect-financial-evidence-and-other-supporting-documents/step-7-collect-civil-documents.html If you are or have been married, you must obtain original marriage certificate/s or certified copies of EVERY marriage. How much more clear can they be that it’s required? Also if you are careful to actually read the official page and where this is in the process, you will see that this is in the list of documents that gets submitted to NVC.

So the actual answer is, no you can’t show a single case where it’s been revoked for this. And I’m willing to bet there isn’t one, because it’s actually quite a process and they don’t do it for just any reason. In fact, to back up what I said before, The U.S. government has a high bar for proving a defendant meets the criteria for denaturalization (a heavier burden of proof than most civil cases, but not as great a burden as criminal cases), according to the USCIS Adjudicator's Field Manual: "Because citizenship is such a precious right, it cannot be taken away unless the government is able to meet a high burden of proof... Accordingly, a case should only be referred for denaturalization where there is objective evidence to establish that the individual was not eligible for naturalization, or procured naturalization by willful concealment or material misrepresentation." https://www.findlaw.com/immigration/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html Leaving a child off a form does not come close to meeting the burden of proving the immigrant would not have otherwise been eligible for naturalization. So let’s stop trying to scare posters for nothing, shall we? Yet …l have seen a few people on VJ who’ve managed to successfully bring over children who were left off the forms initially. So it can be done. Maybe best with a lawyer, but definitely not impossible. Let’s make sure posters get balanced views on what actually happens in practice.

Yeah maybe I misunderstood you but this post sounded very much like you thought they still needed to get a plastic green card at some stage.

But they don’t need to get the plastic GC at all. They just need to show that the child was admitted as a LPR, for which the stamped immigrant visa in the passport is sufficient evidence. The child is already a citizen under INA320 - no point paying for a green card. That is fine for showing custody. You should have all you need to apply for proof of citizenship then. Note you are not actually applying for her citizenship because she is already a citizen- as it seems she has met all the requirements under ina320 - you are just applying for a document that proves she is a citizen.

You don’t need it - assuming all the requirements for child citizenship act are met. Are you married to the other parent? If not, do you have proof of legal custody?

No, you don’t need to wait. The endorsed immigrant visa in her passport is enough proof that she met the condition of being a LPR. Remember you also need to show proof of physical and legal custody to apply for her US passport. If you also want to apply N600 (not essential) my recommendation (what i did and worked well): photocopies of all evidence to apply for n600 online. Use originals to apply for passport. Assuming all documentation ok, passport will arrive first. Then upload copy of passport into n600 case as additional evidence. My kid’s n600 got approved a few days after I uploaded the passport well before whatever the normal processing time at that stage was. Maybe coincidence but … Usually no one pays the $220 or waits for the plastic card in these situations.. no need for either seeing as child becomes a usc on day one (provided the custody requirements are met).

Doesn’t change the fact that you gave a factually incorrect answer. Anyway, his question has now been quite thoroughly and properly answered by a few people.

The fact that they mention a “copy of the foreign language document” must accompany a foreign language translation seems to indicate that copies are fine. I’d err on the safe side and get them notarized /certified though.

Poster was asking about the other evidence. DNA result gets sent direct from the lab to uscis/dos.

You said it had to be a US.card. It doesn’t. Other people read these threads too for information so I prefer to be accurate.

By mail to uscis? Not if you need them back. The RFE should have details - affidavits can be sent sure because they wouldn’t be used for something else, but if it’s an original OP will need again then they should send certified /notarized copies.

No it doesn’t, we paid with South African credit cards when we immigrated. It is only if it is paid direct from a bank account that it needs to be a US one. I think Nigeria may have exchange controls which limits what they can do with their cards. But the point about the IR1 sponsor paying is a good one of course, and seems an obvious solution.

Agree better to wait till you are in the US and can get an accepted card rather than go through an agent. As long as you pay within the first couple of weeks of arrival in the US, it shouldn’t delay your green card processing. In any case your stamped visa is a temporary green card valid for a year after entry, as already indicated. You don’t need a job yet (not sure why that was said above), just a US bank account. A US debit card should be fine to pay the fee if you won’t yet qualify for a credit card , or you can apply for a secured credit card (you put a deposit down that is the same as what the limit will be, and after a year of responsible use you get the deposit back).

I’d suggest as a first step you contact the consulate in Florence to ensure they have received it and it is in the process queue. E-mail address for Non Immigrant Visa Services: VisaFlorence@state.gov Phone: (+39) 055.266.951 These other people you mention, did they also use Florence?

Yes, imo there’s little point spending more time trying to figure this out until we have a clear idea of what has actually taken place.

I have never heard of any instance in which DNA is required by DoS. In fact they are always careful to emphasize it’s voluntary when part of a suggested packet of evidence, and that in turn only gets asked if there are issues with the birth certificate. As long as the father’s name is on the birth certificate and it was issued within a year of birth, that would normally be accepted as being enough proof.

Also note he does not need to provide an i864 for a child under 18, because of the automatic acquisition of citizenship.

If the child arrives to live with his USC parent on a green card before s/he is 18, then the child automatically becomes a citizen - no need to apply for citizenship - they can just apply for a passport and/or an N600 to prove it. If the child arrives after age 18, then the child will need to go through the usual 5 years residence + N400 application to apply for citizenship. But if the child was born in 2014, assuming he doesn’t wait years to file, the child should get here well before turning 18. See this chapter of the uscis manual for more info https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-h-chapter-4