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He was killed in one, didn't spend his whole time there. And even when they thought they'd find him in a cave, no one thought to not even try

Ha yeah, I wasn't referring to the sirens but you've got other concerns there. Yeah, to me if a person is "neutral" they're not really neutral, they're pro hamas. There's no place for neutrality here. Anyone who is against terrorism should be supporting Israel unequivocally in the removal of this threat before it truly becomes existential.

Give it time. Also they could be under a hospital (that's usually where they hide) so they wouldn't be able to get to them till special forces go in during the ground operation. The US ended up finding saddam and bin laden, this is the same situation...doesn't matter how impossible it might seem right now, there should be resolve to not leave gaza before they're found and eliminated.

Deif and sinwar are both in gaza and should be executed. Anyone outside of gaza should be targeted as well (mossad should handle that as its done before. Qatar does not equal immunity). It's impossible to kill all personnel, that's not the goal. The goal is to remove the weapons (and actively preventing them from replenishing afterwards) and the leadership/anyone involved in what happened, and find the hostages. These are minimal objectives imo. Anything less equals defeat.

I forgot to mention, as one of the goals also of course to kill the leadership, military and political. Also here's a wiki link about defensive shield...I think the goals are pretty similar...I also think it was a pretty successful operation for the time despite heavy cost (probably going to be heavier this time around) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Defensive_Shield

I mean 30% of the population has already been moved. Doesn't really take much more than that. Alot of it is underground...if you can enter/exit tunnels in gaza city which is where the majority of forces are gonna be, chances are you can get the other side of them taken care of as well. There's really no other option. My understanding is that's exactly the plan- destroy their tunnels, find all the weapons caches and rocket factories and destroy them etc. More importantly though will be the day after. In order for things to not get to the same point 10 years from now, there will need to be strong intelligence and thwarting similar to what Israel's been doing in Syria. Anytning new coming in will need to be destroyed on the spot, not in the next war. Also, think of it as something similar to what Israel did during operation defensive shield. If it was possible in the west Bank at the time, I can't see why it wouldn't be possible in gaza today

Man, those sure were the days... Nice, welcome. You call gush etzion safe? Haha. Hats off to ya. I grew up in Israel apart from 4 years in Boston (ages 4-8), but haven't lived there for 10 years now...however still have plenty of family there. I was fresh out of the army in 2006 when the war with hezbollah broke out, so quite familiar with the sirens. Something that appears a bit new though that I'm hearing about is what you also mentioned that even in central Israel you can sort of hear/feel the attacks in gaza, pretty intense As you say, Israel is fighting for its survival, there's only one acceptable result to this war and that's destroying hamas, demilitarizing Gaza, and rescuing all hostages dead or alive. No negotiations or prisoner swaps. Anything short of this will signal to hezbollah and others that Israel is weak and completely evaporate what's left of deterrence. It's really a no Brainer and yet it's stunning to see how many on social media (I'm pretty active on X myself and try to help hasbara a bit these days) or around the world seem to think what Israel is doing isn't justified or proportional or that it should just quit. Some of them because let's face it they are jew haters. But some also lack the strategic foresight and literally don't realize that will bring about the demise of it. People don't understand that it takes being tough to survive in the middle east. I for one truly hope Israel goes all the way this time and doesn't stop before mission accomplished. However long it takes, whatever toll it takes. It's time to finish the job.

Especially considering they even shot dogs

Yes but it would also bring heavy destruction on Israel. Hezbollah has many more, and much more accurate rockets than hamas. However Lebanon will become a ghost town.

How's it going fellas. Recent events have reminded me of the good Ole times we used to have here with some libs who appear to be all but extinct in here now lol I agree with most of what's been said. Hamas (and Islamic jihad) need to be destroyed. And they're going to be. Gaza will become a tent city inshallah. Also the filthy mob taking over the streets of the west should be sent the middle east