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I'm not referring necessarily to the ones arrested since Oct 7. Although those as well once they have a trial. But I was specifically referring to those already with lengthy prison sentences. Change the law or their sentences if you have to, I'm generally not a fan of capital punishment but for terrorists? Sure.

That would say something now wouldn't it. Executing israeli civilians in captivity = good Executing terrorists in prison = bad

My take on ALL Palestinian inmates is they should be used as leverage. We already know hamas executed some hostages and is threatening to execute more. It's going to become more dicy the closer Israel gets to them. Imo Israel should put hamas and the world on notice that for every hostage they execute, Israel will execute 10 hamas prisoners Always thought it was crazy jews were considered white when we are literally brown (Jesus, anyone?). Yeah, nowadays european jews have lighter skin but I guess that would make my wife a Muslim since she's polish/American yet has darker skin than I do (even though I'm half sephardic) Makes zero sense.

Progressivism is a mental illness

Yeah I've seen alot of it. Almost "live" the night it happened on mainly telegram and X. And some in the days following (including new stuff still coming out now). I didn't get to see what the idf made, but from what I heard about the things in there about 80% of it is on the internet as well. There's a few things that are in the film though that aren't, and those I did not see. You can't watch that stuff without being reminded every single time why it's crucial to completely do away with the nazis of the 21st century. I don't mention nazis lightly and in the past have always been hesitant to agree with anyone calling nazis any people other than, well, the original nazis. But make no mistake - these are not only nazis; they are worse nazis than the nazis of the 20th century. And that statement includes any of their sympathizers worldwide too.

They, like many gazans, sympathized and identified with hamas. The material they filmed was alot of basically hamas propaganda (in addition to the head camera footage by the terrorists themselves) in the guise of "journalism". I don't think they knew way ahead because most hamas members didn't, but they definitely knew what they're about to film when they rode the same bikes and trucks as the terrorists, and they definitely had a good time filming it. To me, they are terrorists and if they were directly targeted by the IDF, I would not shed a tear

This one is also worth watching, from the 18th minute

The irony is that now alot of the anti Israel dimwits keep saying "there is no hamas in the west Bank so why is Israel attacking there too". Just more lies from the pathological liars side. Israel is fighting hamas there all the time which is why it's been weaker ever since 2003. But it's definitely there and if Israel didn't do what it does it would have already taken over the west Bank as well

100%. Saw the video the other day on X. But yes, what's been proven Is that more concessions don't translate into more peace but the opposite is true. Once Israel withdrew from Gaza they were able to build the tunnels, get a ton of rockets and more explosives etc. All much worse than before. After the Oslo accords the west Bank was going the same way, operation defensive shield which I mentioned a few weeks ago and following up on it with smaller operations since (often referred to as "lawn mowing") have made things calm down somewhat (but still worse than what it was before the deals). Current model I think for gaza is similar. To go back to being like Area B of the west Bank. I think it's doable. I would say I was never part of the extreme left, but also not the right. Growing up, I believed in peace, wanted to see it happen and was excited whenever they televised any new signings. That has changed for me as well. It's now obvious to anyone with a brain (seems half the world + is missing one) that if Israel doesn't retain control over security in those areas it will very quickly come under existential threat. Also about hezbollah I personally think they've already taken it too far. I'm really tired of over a month of nothing but threats from Israel as well as the US while this ####### for tat is ongoing and escalating almost daily. I say Beirut needs to get buried now, not later. Or as always, the "later" will carry a much heavier price

I mean...to me it seems for several decades now like stating the obvious

This takes me back a bit to the conversation right after it happened about what would be considered a success or otherwise a defeat. I think, one month in, it's becoming a little easier to see that the objectives are achievable...it won't be easy, it will take time (i see people talking about 2-3 months, i think its closer to a year), and there will be a cost. But it's possible, as long as the politicians don't try to stop the military from completing what it knows how to do for whatever dumb reason. If they have to go house house, tunnel tunnel then that's what they have to do. Israel has surprised the world before by doing the "impossible" many times and it can do it again

I saw that one the other day, hilarious but sad. Also not sure if you guys have seen this, been trending this week, from my favorite satire show in Israel https://youtu.be/rbfccVBo9tE?si=ntgojozXvCeoqaM7

It was a plan he released a few years back, can't find a link for it rn, but basically to only annex area C. That's where majority of Jewish settlements are anyway and will only need to give citizenship to some 100k Palestinians or so. It will also ensure we don't have a new gaza a few miles from Ben Gurion Airport The rest they can handle on their own like they already are, no military of course etc The problem with annexing anything right now though is basically the Abraham accords or any potential deal with Saudi prevents it, so will be interesting

Meh, I don't think that's the right solution. You'll end up either truly an apartheid state (right now people just like to claim it is, but it's not because Palestinians are not israelis), or you'll be a Muslim state run by sharia law. No third option. I'm alot closer to Naftali Bennetts plan than anything else on this at this point Also, I don't really go to the synagogue...but if I went into a specialty (kosher) store or bakery or something like that I'd probably be very aware of my surroundings. Can never be too safe

Tbh I've never been a fan of forcing citizenship. Why would you want such a major change to your demography? You'll end up being a minority in a few decades There is a power plant but it only supplies a few hours worth a day (when it's working, rn it's out of fuel). Israel supplied the rest but not anymore. Important to mention that while they did plan it for a couple of years and do have stockpiles of fuel and other supplies for their own uses, they just don't care about the people in gaza so ofc didn't feel the need to make sure they have enough as well. I'm sure their thinking was Israel will just give in and supply it, or the world will. Also about jews living in fear...I do think that there's a ton of anti semitism out there, but personally can't say I encounter it or live in fear of it. Might be because I'm in Saint johns County, FL which is 75% republican (also i dont really "look jewish", im not religious etc). I've long told people that if I could walk into a bar with a bunch of bds supporters and other progressives, or a bar with alt right folks I would feel alot safer going into the latter. I've had so many people raise their eyebrows at me for that. Maybe now they understand it better, who knows

I decided against a long answer here...just gonna say there's alot of nonsense there

Well it won't be easy but the only path forward would be to eliminate all terror groups and get the Palestinian authority to reform their education system if they want to even negotiate anything ever again. That should be, and is (with recent israeli governments) a precondition. That's one of the main reasons there haven't been negotiations for so long - because they refuse. There have been plenty of examples where this is possible if they actually want to do it. Some other countries in the region that used to be very hostile have already started doing it, including Saudi. If they don't - then oh well. It won't advance their cause, and fighting will continue

One thing to point out, is that while there is a minority within Arab Israelis who also support this, the majority of them do not. Considering that they are also, basically palestinian and some even have families in the west Bank or gaza, it serves to prove that it's mainly a product of your environment and education. In gaza and the west Bank they teach them from a young age to be martyrs and kill jews. In Israel you have Muslims that even serve in the idf.

Quick math, at least 13% of that age range are justifying admitted genocide

Especially insane to me, even if you don't believe everyone should be able to own a gun, that even those kibbutz's literally a couple miles from the border only had a team of a few armed people ready to defend it. Seems to me like it's a no Brainer that anyone this close to the border who doesn't have a criminal record should be able to get one. However better late than never, things are changing there, slowly. It's still not like in the US of course, but my understanding is now anyone with combat training (from their time in the military) will be able to own a weapon even in their civil life. People were literally left defenseless for hours while counting on police or the military, when their neighbors are a literal combination of isis and nazis, mind blowing to me.

It's interesting but I definitely don't agree with his definition of victory for the idf. I don't think anyone expects to go after 40k people. The most important thing, in my opinion, is going after all or most of the weapons and not allowing them back in, assasinating the leaders and those responsible for the attacks, and getting hostages out. Fighters can be left... as long as they don't have weapons to fight with

Can thank the hamas coucas for that one

Yeah I thought the movie was decent but didn't base it on that Its just what kind of became common. I used to fight it i just got used to it lol And isolated. You wouldn't want to pull them out of somewhere or even near somewhere you have a bunch of others, that would way tip off where some of them are

If there is anything the "gaza experiment" if you will, teaches us, it's that "two state solution" is not the solution. I'm saying that as someone (like most Israelis) who used to support it and now (again like most israelis) realizes it will never work. Israel left gaza, hamas could have turned it into Las Vegas of the Middle East, what did they do instead? So you've got the twats indoctrinated by the domestic terror org that is BLM claim there's still occupation cause there's a blockade etc. Why is there a blockade? Because hamas took over the strip shortly after Israel left it. Israel did try to provide better conditions and each time hamas started shooting rockets and it was back to square one. It was all based on good faith. If there is quiet then conditions will gradually improve and vice versa. There were almost 20k gazans working inside of Israel before this attack started. One of the first locations they attacked was the same passage/s that allowed workers out (and earning 12x what they do in gaza) and supplies in. Literally bit the hand and slaughtered everyone in there. I know I'm preaching to the choir but I think this is an important point because even in my own family (from my wife's side) I've got people who think hamas is just trying to break out of the "open air prison" and that Israel is treating the "natives" so horribly, completely ignoring the fact that the indigenous people of the land are not Arabs but jews. Ignoring the fact Israel was doing more to better gazans life before this than any other country. If they wanted a good life, all they had to do was try to not kill all jews for a year or two. There are two reasons why I think people blame Israel for this instead of just realizing it's dealing with basically isis, who wants to kill people no matter what, and has absolutely nothing to do with nonexistent occupation. The first, anti semitism, plain and simple. But not everyone is anti Semitic. The second reason is as I said above, they allow themselves to be indoctrinated against Israel by BLM and the likes. It's insane but it is what it is. There is no way Israelis will ever let what happened in gaza over the last 20 years happen to the west bank; if that means there needs to be "apartheid" so be it. South Africa wasn't facing murderous isis and nazi like terrorists. Israel's utmost priority is to defend its citizens, jews AND arabs.

Reminds me of the awful way they treated Alan Turing