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Sounds logical. I can't believe some have done that! Why spend more money and time? Wait a few months or start over and wait a year. Easy decision for me!!!!

This is just a hypothetical situation. But I was curious if anyone has done this and what the ramifications are, if any. Let's say you file your petition with USCIS. Then a couple months later you fly to your fiances country. You get married there. Does this affect the petition here in the U.S. or with the embassy in that country? Any opinions or expertise is appreciated!

Oh yeah! Natalia did take me to meet her mother. I thought she was for real then! Moms love me, so I had no problems even with the language barrier. Iphones work pretty good with a translator ap! LOL

I always inform them of my kids. That's the first thing I bring up. My kids don't live with me. I have them every other weekend. And I am not opposed to having more kids. Natalia and I talked about having 1 or 2 more.

My wife and I still to this day give each other the benefit of the doubt about what we say to each other.....and sometimes we can both be VERY frustrated with the other (especially when it comes to driving training!!).

You NEVER did answer my questions;

How old are you?

How fat and bald are you?

What age group of a woman are you looking for?

Answers to those questions will help us a lot to help you. From what I have read so far, I'd place you at early 30s, maybe never married, never dated a "foreigner" before? How did you meet this woman? What do you intend to do differently, once you go there and meet the "perfect" woman? Know that you will still have to engage this long distance correspondence phase, just like before.

What do you intend to do differently this time? Do you think it's all that woman's fault?

I am 40. I am 5'9". 200 pounds. Maybe a little thinning, but I usually shave my head. Natalia is 32. I don't really have an age range. I would say 24 and up. The younger girls don't have the same values as the older ones. I am divorced after 22 years of marriage. I have 6 kids ranging from 8 to 15 in age. I have been to Ukraine 3 times. I have met all of them on Elenas models website. I don't place anyone at fault. She was not the one. Next!

My wife and I still to this day give each other the benefit of the doubt about what we say to each other.....and sometimes we can both be VERY frustrated with the other (especially when it comes to driving training!!).

You NEVER did answer my questions;

How old are you?

How fat and bald are you?

What age group of a woman are you looking for?

Answers to those questions will help us a lot to help you. From what I have read so far, I'd place you at early 30s, maybe never married, never dated a "foreigner" before? How did you meet this woman? What do you intend to do differently, once you go there and meet the "perfect" woman? Know that you will still have to engage this long distance correspondence phase, just like before.

What do you intend to do differently this time? Do you think it's all that woman's fault?

I am 40. I am 5'9". 200 pounds. Maybe a little thinning, but I usually shave my head. Natalia is 32. I don't really have an age range. I would say 24 and up. The younger girls don't have the same values as the older ones. I am divorced after 22 years of marriage. I have 6 kids ranging from 8 to 15 in age. I have been to Ukraine 3 times. I have met all of them on Elenas models website. I don't place anyone at fault. She was not the one. Next!

My wife and I still to this day give each other the benefit of the doubt about what we say to each other.....and sometimes we can both be VERY frustrated with the other (especially when it comes to driving training!!).

You NEVER did answer my questions;

How old are you?

How fat and bald are you?

What age group of a woman are you looking for?

Answers to those questions will help us a lot to help you. From what I have read so far, I'd place you at early 30s, maybe never married, never dated a "foreigner" before? How did you meet this woman? What do you intend to do differently, once you go there and meet the "perfect" woman? Know that you will still have to engage this long distance correspondence phase, just like before.

What do you intend to do differently this time? Do you think it's all that woman's fault?

I am 40. I am 5'9". 200 pounds. Maybe a little thinning, but I usually shave my head. Natalia is 32. I don't really have an age range. I would say 24 and up. The younger girls don't have the same values as the older ones. I am divorced after 22 years of marriage. I have 6 kids ranging from 8 to 15 in age. I have been to Ukraine 3 times. I have met all of them on Elenas models website. I don't place anyone at fault. She was not the one. Next!

I didn't "jump in" with any pre-conceived notions. I have experience speaking and interacting with many of these women....and American women. I am not saying they are all the same. But they are different than American women. That's all I meant. Maybe it's my personality, but I like Ukrainian women better than any in the world! I was just unlucky with this one!

Damn Why_Me! No wonder you got yourself in trouble! LOL. Thanks for the info though!

Yup! You got it! But I am taking Russian lessons. I can only speak basic stuff now. But at least I am making an effort!

By the way.... Why_Me.....love the correlation between a uterus and bevo! I am a die hard Aggie!

Well, it seems I have bad news. Natalia has been lying for about 3 weeks. I thought RUB women were, at very least, brutally honest! She opened another page on that facebook site that I wasn't aware of. She had one page for my sake. And another for meeting other people. She doesn't speak any English. So I translate all our conversations. Google has some issues... let me tell you! Bad translations are the reason for alot of disagreements. Anyway, last week it seems that was the case. She thought I said something mean. I did not. She claims at that point she thought our relationship was over. But would not reply to any of my texts to explain the misunderstanding. Then she went out, found a random guy off the street, and had sex with him. What's up with that?! Even if it were a real fight, that is no reason for revenge. Is it? This wasn't the first time either. One time she misunderstood me and removed all our pictures from her site. Then the next time she destroyed the necklace and ring I gave her. Now this! Someone please explain this behavior! Because I am seriously gonna be out of there! Are all Ukrainian women this crazy? Maybe Belarus is better. Too bad because I really like the mindset of Ukrainian women! HELP!

Bring it Slim! I can let your wife know you would only be my support system! No girls for you! LOL. I will update everyone tomorrow after I speak with Natalia. We will see how it goes, but I am at ease now. No pressure. I will visit Kiev in April or May whether she is with me or not. Life goes on!

I'm not really looking to search online anymore. Been there, done that. Twice. I have been to Ukraine twice and I like it. Just jump on a plane and go. I am more looking for an agency that will interview girls, show them my bio, and introduce me to a few. By the way, anyone up for wingman? LOL!

Let's say I plan a trip in the next couple of months. What are a couple reputable agencies with girls who have real intentions to marry? You know, between all the other girls! LOL. I'll also try and squeeze in Natalia for a quickie! Actually, those who have been to Kiev.... tell me lots of details. Where to stay, where to go, where to meet girls, etc. Thanks for everything guys!

This woman is 32 and has a 10 year old son. As far as speaking to her about life here.... of course we did! She originally had no inhibitions and spelled out her expectations. They were not unreasonable. Actually she wasn't really interested in working. She wanted to start a family. I have six kids. She has one. It was her idea to round it out at ten! LOL. Now that I look back, maybe she was scared. She doesn't speak English very well at all. And wanted to stay at home to avoid interaction with others. I don't know. Her friends and family have all said she is stupid. Her mom is laying on the guilt pretty heavy!

Good news and bad news!

Good news is she agreed to speak on Monday. Maybe I can get some closure. I have some things to say to her, but they aren't all nice.

Bad news is I am pretty sure what her decision is. She has a page on Russian Classmates. I don't know if you have seen it. It is like facebook in Russian. It used to have pictures of us and say that we were married. Now she took all the pictures down, changed to a whole new page, and took me off as a friend!

By the way, I am new here. What do OP, SO, and RUB stand for?

Thanks for all the interesting replies and points of view. I will try and clarify some things, answer a few questions, and add some more comments of my own. When I said I had 5 months to work on this, I didn't mean literally that I would waste 5 months. I meant that 5 months was the average time of approval of the petition. And if she decides not to continue, it can die there. I thought briefly about moving to Ukraine. But quickly came to my senses because I have 6 kids of my own here! I couldn't leave them. I know this was real. She was constanly asking to see me on skype. Always asking me to visit. Everything was great! Our age difference is minimal. I am 40. She is 32 and has a son. She never asked me for money, although I left her some when I left simply because I didn't want to exchange it for U.S. dollars again. And I probably shouldn't say this on here, but we were "intimate" within hours of my arrival and many times during the week! I know her intentions were true. So I have narrowed it down to cold feet or finding that "bigger fish." Actually I was planning another trip in April. She seemed very excited. It's just weird that things changed so suddenly.

So, I will never beg! But I will fight a little. I always give her space and time to think. And I will talk to her when she is ready....if ever! She has always been truthful, so maybe at least I can get some closure.

Someone made a comment about what happens to women who marry American men. What happens? What does that mean?

If the petition dies and things change in the future, does this affect a second petition?

What exactly are the alternatives to meeting a Ukrainian woman other than online? And by the way...I met her on Elenas models.

Again, thanks for the replies. I will continue to update and chat. And I will be fine either way!

I wanted to run this scenerio by everyone and get your feedback, ideas, and possible solutions! I met my fiance, Natalia, online in October 2011. Since then we chat on skype everyday. Sometimes for more than 12 hours at a time. I flew to Ukraine during Christmas and spent a week with her. We got along great so I proposed on the spot. She said yes. She had no inhibitions about leaving her country and coming to the U.S. She was, in fact, very excited to come! Since then we have been gathering documents for her visa. Finally, on February 17, I sent in our I-129F packet. We got our NOA1 on February 23. Everything was great! Then this past week Natalia informs me that she is having second thoughts and wants to end our relationship! She said to give her time to think. But every conversation we have she apologizes and says I will be fine... like it is already over. She has not spoken to me in 3 days now. Has anyone had this happen before? Does anyone have an idea what she is doing? Or how I can handle this to make her come back to me? I know I have 5 months at least to try! Comments are appreciated!