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Filed: Country: Australia
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I have heard that my fiance (Australian) can enter the U.S. on a tourist visa and we can married within several days. Then he can apply for a temporary work permit and may be able to work within 6 weeks.

Since we are entering the U.S. March 5th (in just 25 days) and we need income, the quicker the better.

Has anyone tried this? Does anyone know if there are consequences for going against the tourist visa to marry?

My fiance wants to become a permanent resident and, in several years, a U.S. citizen, so we don't want to do anything to jeopardize this.

We have not applied for any visas yet because my divorce is not yet finalized (should be finalized within one month).

Any advice would be helpful...

I have been overseas for seven months (all over Europe and AUS) and I really just want to go home, but I'm starting to think we may have to live in AUS for a while again while we wait for visas.

Sorry for all the questions!-- I'm totally lost here.

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hi ya

what you are suggesting is illegal...although i know someone that did it ... it was forgiven but she had to wait quite a long time to get her greencard...

if you want to do this the legal way apply for the K1 visa you could start your application while your in the states just make sure that you fiance brings all the information needed while she is here...

with my friend i tried to tell her it was illegal and with the wait she had she always had the fear of being deported...its just not worth it ...

do it the legal way mate .. best for you and best for your fiance because is she is deported she will be banded to enter the states again...

i have sent you a pm also...

take care an good luck

kath

REMOVING CONDITIONS

11th Aug 2008 - Mailed I-751 to CSC.

12th Aug 2008 - Application received

14th Aug 2008 - Cheque cashed

18th Aug 2008 - Received NOA-dated the 12th

26th Aug 2008 - Received Biometrics letter

4th Sept 2008 - Biometrics-Detroit-Complete-'Touched'

5th Sept 2008 - 'Touched'

1st Dec 2008 - APPROVED-Card production ordered -112 days

8th Dec 2008 - USCIS mailed approval notice.

8th Dec 2008 - Received my 10 year Greencard in the mail. took 2 days.

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What makes it illegal would be the intent to STAY in the US after getting married.

If you decide to come over on a tourist visa, you can get married- and as far as I know you could then get started on a K3 or CR1 visa process.

This way you could be together for some of the process, however, your fiance WILL have to go back to Australia for the interview or before his visa is expired, whichever comes first.

He would not be able to work though.

Please correct me if what I said is not right.

short history:

2001 - met in Germany

April 2003 - fell in love

Aug 2004 - go to the US for internship

Feb 2005 - both return to Germany

Aug 2006 - getting married

DCF timeline:

09/01/2006 - filed the petition in Frankfurt

09/06/2006 - medical in Frankfurt

09/26/2006 - faxed checklist

10/05/2006 - received interview invite

11/01/2006 - INTERVIEW in Frankfurt - approved!

11/04/2006 - VISA IN HAND!!

12/21/2006 - POE San Francisco and ON TO SEA!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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Any person who arrives on a non-immigrant visa (b1/2) or who uses a non-immigrant program (VWP) who has immigrant intent is a violation of immigration law plain and simple. A thread such as this is also a violation of the TOS of this board (Please note the disclaimer on the bottom of each page).

YMMV

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I have heard that there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but I don't believe that either. Your fiancee can not legally enter under the VWP with intent to immigrate to the USA, to do so is visa fraud.

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I have heard that my fiance (Australian) can enter the U.S. on a tourist visa and we can married within several days. Then he can apply for a temporary work permit and may be able to work within 6 weeks.

Since we are entering the U.S. March 5th (in just 25 days) and we need income, the quicker the better.

Has anyone tried this? Does anyone know if there are consequences for going against the tourist visa to marry?

My fiance wants to become a permanent resident and, in several years, a U.S. citizen, so we don't want to do anything to jeopardize this.

We have not applied for any visas yet because my divorce is not yet finalized (should be finalized within one month).

Any advice would be helpful...

I have been overseas for seven months (all over Europe and AUS) and I really just want to go home, but I'm starting to think we may have to live in AUS for a while again while we wait for visas.

Sorry for all the questions!-- I'm totally lost here.

You have fiance relationship and you plan to marry within 90 days of entry and your foreign spouse is planning to stay. Isn't it what the K-1 visa for ?

Read the guideline, it should give you more explanation.

I-130

Jun 28 2004 : Received at NSC

Oct 25 2004 : Transferred to CSC

Oct 29 2004 : Received at CSC

Nov 8 2004 : Received response from CSC that my file is being requested & review will be done

Nov 10 2004 : Email & online status Approved

Nov 15 2004 : NOA 2 in mail

Dec 16 2004 : NVC assigns case number

Dec 20 2004 : NVC sent DS 3032 to beneficiary, copy of DS 3032 & I-864 fee bill to petitioner

Jan 3 2005 : Petitioner received copy of DS 3032 and I-864 fee bill. Post-marked Dec 23rd.

Jan 11 2005 : Beneficiary received DS 3032 in Indonesia

Jan 31 2005 : Sent DS 3032 to NVC

Feb 8, 2005 : NVC received DS 3032

Feb 21, 2005 : IV fee generated

Feb 25, 2005 : Sent I-864 fee bill

Feb 28, 2005 : I-864 fee bill delivered to St Louis

Mar 3, 2005 : IV fee bill received

Mar 7, 2005 : Sent IV fee bill

Mar 9, 2005 : IV fee bill delivered to St Louis

Mar 28, 2005 : I-864 fee credited against case.

April 6, 2005 : Received I-864 package

April 7, 2005 : Immigrant Visa fee credited against case.

April 11, 2005 : DS 230 is generated

Aug 12, 2005 : I-864 & DS 230 received by NVC

Sep 14, 2005 : RFE on I-864

Nov 3, 2005 : Checklist response received at NVC

Nov 25, 2005 : Case completion

Dec 9, 2005 : Police Cert requested from the Netherlands

Jan 12 2006 : Interview success - Approved !!

Jan 19 2006 : Visa & brown envelope picked up

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Scotland
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You can't bring your fiance on a tourist visa if he intends to stay. That is visa fraud pure and simple.

If you want to bring him to America, you will have to either marry in Australia and can file for a K-3 or file for a K-1 and marry him on his arrival in the US.

Any way you do this you will have to prove you can support him when he arrives. This means you having a regular income in America, filing taxes to show that income, and having a place for him to live.

If you can't do this, you will need to find a joint sponsor in the US who is willing to guarantee your fiance's support.

Whatever happens you two are likely to be spending time apart.

Read the guides and see what way is best for you both.

If you carry on with the plan you outline you will be committing fraud.

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K-1 Visa

Event Date

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : London, United Kingdom

I-129F Sent : 2006-09-26

I-129F NOA1 : 2006-09-28

I-129F RFE(s) :

RFE Reply(s) :

I-129F NOA2 : 2006-10-18

NVC Received : 2006-10-20

NVC Left : 2006-10-23

Consulate Received :

Packet 3 Received : 2006-11-06

Packet 3 Sent : 2006-12-02

Packet 4 Received : 2006-12-07

Interview Date : 2007-01-31

Visa Received : 2007-02-03

US Entry : 2007-03-06

Marriage : 2007-03-30

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Like it was said...do not do it, it is illegal!! I married on a tourist visa (but came without the intent...) now it is something else i worry about when my interview comes, not only do i have to prove our marriage but also that we had no intent in marrying when i came...it really worries me, so just start with a visa (fiancee or wife) it will take some time but it is the best way to go...i really wish i had done that way...if i only knew then what i know now...

****05/2006 --- Got married!!****

11/21/06 - Mailing out AOS package

11/24/06 - AOS received by USCIS (day 1)

11/29/06 - NOA issued (day 6)

12/01/06 - Biometrics appt. issued (day 7)

12/06/06 - I485 touched (day 12)

12/13/06 - I765 touched (day 19)

12/16/06 - Biometrics Appt. - reescheduled ( day 22)

12/22/06 - Biometrics done..finally! (day 28)

12/27/06 - I485&I765 touched (day 33)

01/03/07 - I485&I765 touched (day 40)

01/22/07 - Received letter with interview appt (day 59)

02/05/07 - I765 touched (day 73)

02/07/07 - EAD approved (day 75)

02/10/07 - EAD received (day 78)

03/11/07 - I485 touched (day 107)

03/27/07 - **Interview**(day 123) **********APPROVED**********

03/27/07 - Welcome letter issued (day 123)

03/28/07 - Card production ordered(day 124)

04/04/07 - Approval notice sent (day 131)

04/06/07 - Greencard received (day 133)

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Wait until you're divorced and go through legal process.

8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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Work permits take 3+ months from application to recieve.

6 weeks is a fantasy, even if the rest of your plan were legal.

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: England
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Hey, you know what, if you don't ask, you don't know it's illegal. I had to ask the same question when I started and I really don't even think it's written anywhere in the guides saying don't do it. At the time of question she probably didn't know it was illegal so therefore she would not be in violation of the TOS as she was oblivious to it being illegal. And don't say, oh come on, she should now...look back when you started out, did you know ANYTHING about immigration? I think not.

Sorry..wasn't ranking on anyone, just defending, just wanted to make it clear in case anyone is a tight A** and thinks they should report her or complain she should know about this stuff... some things aren't always easy to find on the guides. Especially for beginners who have never used this site and no nothing about immigration laws.

Pete (UK) & Sue (US)

2006

June 19: Filed for K-1 Visa

2007

Feb 8: Received K-1 Visa

April 27: Married!!

May 4: AOS & EAD sent off.

July 28: EAD Card Arrives in Mail!

Aug 23: AOS Interview! APPROVED!!

Aug 30: Welcome to America! letter arrived.

Sept 7: Greencard arrived in the mail!

2009

May: Received Notice about Greencard Expiration end of August

July 15: Sent packet in mail!! (FINALLY!!)

July 16: Packet arrives @ CSC 10:52am Signed by V. Semegi

July 24: Received NOA (posted 7/21)

July 30: Received Bio Appt Letter in Mail

August 20 @ 2pm: Biometrics Appt. –

Sept 12: Approved!! Should be getting card within 60 days..

2011

April 22: Mailing N400 Citizenship packet to Phoenix AZ! (about time!)

April 25 10:37am Phoenix USCIS Lockbox. Signed for by F DOMINGUEZ

April 28 NOA (received in mail May 2)

June 7 Biometrics Appt

July 26 8:10am Interview/Test APPROVED!

Jul 26 Oath Ceremony! Pete is now a US Citizen!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: England
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btw...I apologize for using the term tight a** & I was not directing this towards anyone. I just wanted to make sure she didn't get into trouble for posting something she didn't know was a fraudulant activity. It's a good question to ask and I think it should be discussed somewhere in the GUIDES so that people don't have to ask this question anymore in open forum.

Thank you.

Pete (UK) & Sue (US)

2006

June 19: Filed for K-1 Visa

2007

Feb 8: Received K-1 Visa

April 27: Married!!

May 4: AOS & EAD sent off.

July 28: EAD Card Arrives in Mail!

Aug 23: AOS Interview! APPROVED!!

Aug 30: Welcome to America! letter arrived.

Sept 7: Greencard arrived in the mail!

2009

May: Received Notice about Greencard Expiration end of August

July 15: Sent packet in mail!! (FINALLY!!)

July 16: Packet arrives @ CSC 10:52am Signed by V. Semegi

July 24: Received NOA (posted 7/21)

July 30: Received Bio Appt Letter in Mail

August 20 @ 2pm: Biometrics Appt. –

Sept 12: Approved!! Should be getting card within 60 days..

2011

April 22: Mailing N400 Citizenship packet to Phoenix AZ! (about time!)

April 25 10:37am Phoenix USCIS Lockbox. Signed for by F DOMINGUEZ

April 28 NOA (received in mail May 2)

June 7 Biometrics Appt

July 26 8:10am Interview/Test APPROVED!

Jul 26 Oath Ceremony! Pete is now a US Citizen!

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hi

good on ya bluerain i came back in here to do that..i sent the OP a message of encouragement after my original post and she admits she didnt know anything about the method of immigration...

i think she is lucky to of found this website before she did anything illegal in my books...i dont know how long in my searching for answers about immigration to find this website..

at least she asked first i reckon...

kath

REMOVING CONDITIONS

11th Aug 2008 - Mailed I-751 to CSC.

12th Aug 2008 - Application received

14th Aug 2008 - Cheque cashed

18th Aug 2008 - Received NOA-dated the 12th

26th Aug 2008 - Received Biometrics letter

4th Sept 2008 - Biometrics-Detroit-Complete-'Touched'

5th Sept 2008 - 'Touched'

1st Dec 2008 - APPROVED-Card production ordered -112 days

8th Dec 2008 - USCIS mailed approval notice.

8th Dec 2008 - Received my 10 year Greencard in the mail. took 2 days.

Although I have the above date for approval my card actualy states the

2nd December..

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Argentina
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yep, visa fraud.

you get absolutely no sympathy from people like us who did everything the LEGAL way...

AOS

01-29-07 - marriage

02-07-07 - AOS package mailed to Chicago

02-09-07 - AOS package delivered

02-13-07 - NOA1 date

02-21-07 - Biometrics letter

02-24-07 - NOA1 received

03-01-07 - Biometrics taken

03-15-07 - Transferred to The Sucky/Slow Center (TSC)... to "speed up" processing.

03-17-07 - Transferred notice e-mail

03-20-07 - Received TSC transfer letter

03-21-07 - application pending at TSC e-mail.

05-14-07 - Misinfopass appt. COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

06-05-07 - I-131 e-filed

06-11-07 - AP NOA1

07-09-07 - Received weird looking letter for AP, but online status hasn't changed

Last Touch - AOS 3/24, AP 7/03

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Good thing no one was looking for sympathy then.....whew woulda been a close one.

2001 Met

2005 Married

I-485/I-130

12/06/2006-------Mailed I-130/1-485

12/16/2006--------Recieved NOA 1 (I-130 & I-485)

12/18/2006--------Touched I-130/I-485

01/20/2007--------Biometrics

05/10/2007 -- Interview, Approved!

05/22/2007 GREEN CARD arrives!!!

02/2009 - File to lift conditions

I-765

12/14/2006--- Mailed EAD App.

01/20/2007--- Biometrics

02/09/2005-------Sent in request to Congressional office for assistance with expediting EAD.

02/13/2007 -------- EAD Approved!

02/26/2007 - ------EAD received

Removal of Conditions:

05/12/2009 -- Overnighted application by USPS express mail (VSC).

05/14/2009 -- Green Card expired.

05/23/2009 --- Check cleared bank.

05/26/2009 -- Received NOA (NOA date May 15, 2009, guess they aren't deporting me).

05/29/2009- Biometrics Notice date

06/01/2009- Received Biometrics Letter

06/18/2009 - Biometrics

09/23/2009 - date of decision to approve (letter received), just waiting for card. No online updates whatsoever.

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