Can the tax return be xeroxed copies?

[zethris 0]

My mother is going to be a co-sponsor on backup if they happen to ask, so she is self employed with two successful businesses and she will be sending her tax return and P&L statements one for each business from last year.

Are xerox copies ok? She needs the originals for her records.

Also, is the tax return and Proffit and Loss statements good enough for supporting evidence? Or

is that not going to be considered two things and she needs to have the signed bank letter also?

[William33 110]

zethris,

Photocopies are acceptable, as are P&L statements for additional evidence. Some suggest getting transcripts from the IRS, but this is not necessary. Most people send photocopies and are approved with no problem.

Bank statements are also good. I still wonder why people feel compelled to get a bank letter. Perhaps of value at the AOS stage (I-864), but at the Embassy level, the (I-134) scrutiny is less intense.

My mother is going to be a co-sponsor on backup if they happen to ask, so she is self employed with two successful businesses and she will be sending her tax return and P&L statements one for each business from last year.

Are xerox copies ok? She needs the originals for her records.

Also, is the tax return and Proffit and Loss statements good enough for supporting evidence? Or

is that not going to be considered two things and she needs to have the signed bank letter also?

[grayrhino 0]

I'm 98% sure that photocopies are OK. You actually can get a free copy of your tax return from the IRS.

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=110571,00.html

The instructions with the I-134 form say that they should be notarized. We included the following statement signed with a notary public:

I , ______________, hereby attest that the the the enclosed tax

records for years (list years) are exact reproductions of the original tax records.

Because the IRS does not provide stamped or certified tax records, please accept these exact reproductions in lieu.

_______________

(Your name)

Sworn to before me this day , 2006

_______________________

Notary Public

[john_and_marlene 162]

Manila does not accept cosponsors for K1 visas

[William33 110]

john_and_marlene,

Good point, I keep forgetting that fact. I have also wondered why that is. Any ideas?

Manila does not accept cosponsors for K1 visas

[zethris 0]

Manila does not accept cosponsors for K1 visas

What?!? This is the first time in two years I ever heard of that!

So what the hell am I supposed to do if the officer there thinks I am not making enough?

I doubt it is always just as simple as being 125% above poverty level. They may note

I have been at my new job (which I took in preparation for my new life) less than a year.

The bullcrap just keeps continuing doesn't it. No wonder there are so many illegals in the USA.

So I have to be the primary sponsor and thats it? I wouldn't be able to use my mother as

a sponsor at all?

Edited November 4, 2006 by zethris

[StarProg 0]

It was about 1 1/2 years ago I discovered this "fact." I spent 6 months investigating the co-sponsor issue in Manila. I even contacted the consulate to get their official word on co-sponsors. They mostly avoided my question But I was able to discover that, 1) they do not have an official policy regarding co-sponsors for K visas, every case is judged based upon it's own evidence, and 2) in two years I have only noticed personally 3 cases of a K visa pursuer using a co-sponsor. One was denied, one was approved, one was denied and presented a letter from a Senator stating that a co-sponsor was okay, and the CO reluctantly reversed the decision and approved the visa. Perhaps others on VJ have heard of other K'ers using a co-sponsor.

My fiancée and I had decided we would go ahead and plan on using a co-sponsor, and we would overwhelm the CO with evidence that I could support her. Her co-sponsor would be her sister who lives in the US, I had evidence that I had no rent to pay, and other "benefits" which would help me support a wife. But, in the end, we decided to get married and file for a CR-1 visa. In that case, we can use the I-864 for the support issue, a legally binding document and one that Manila will (has to) accept with a co-sponsor.

I don't know if this helps you any, but I figured I should say what I know just in case.

[zethris 0]

Thank you for the information. Unfortunatly I may not have the "luxury" of overwhelming the CO with evidence that I could support her. I am on a new career path, right out of collage with a $64,000 student loan and a

pitiliy entry level pay level job for 7 months that pays $26,000/yr and a side business not old enough to have filed taxes yet.

What I really need to know now I guess is if I now have to be the primary sponsor or if my mother can be.

I am so sick of this and these games they play.

There goes my sleep for the night I guess. I'm sick to my stomach again. Welcome back nausea, I missed you since the IMBRA fiasco.

Edited November 4, 2006 by zethris

[StarProg 0]

I know how you feel. I suffered the same nausea when I discovered the support issues. Things may not be as bad for you as it seems. If you have a job that pays $26,000/yr, that should meet the poverty level requirements. Though Manila is reluctant to accept co-sponsors, at the same time they are more willing than usual to accept your current employment status, even if it has only been a short time. There have been cases of sponsors working for only 3 months with a decent salary and receiving approval. Gather all the evidence that the I-134 requires, plus add any other evidence you can that documents your income, and likelyhood of continued income. Go ahead and let your mother co-sponsor, it can't hurt. The main thing is to convince the CO that you have suffient income and resources to support your beneficiary, and that she won't become a financial burden.

And if the very worst should happen, accept the fact that if she is denied based upon support issues, you two may have to get married and file the I-130. I realize you probably don't want to have to consider that, but if you learn to accept that now it won't be so bad in the case that she is denied the K-1. Do try to get some sleep, worry about this again in the morning.

[Yodrak 7]

William,

My guess is that it's based on 9 FAM 40.41 (Public Charge) Notes N4.6-3, and in particular N4.6-3c.

Although I have no experience with the consular section in Manilla I would expect that a well qualified parent of the petitioner would be found acceptable as the sponsor if the information is well presented.

Yodrak

john_and_marlene,

Good point, I keep forgetting that fact. I have also wondered why that is. Any ideas?

Manila does not accept cosponsors for K1 visas

[zethris 0]

Thanks Yodrak. I just it's just a gamble then. All I can do is hope for the best.

[William33 110]

Yodrak,

Would this be the section in red below?

Interesting. So the conclusion I draw, is that a co-sponsor should be a "close" family member or lifelong friend, to hold any weight at the Consular Section.

NOTE: When there are compelling or forceful ties between the applicant

and the sponsor, such as a close family relationship or friendship of long

standing, you may favorably consider the affidavit. On the other hand, an

affidavit submitted by a casual friend or distant relative who has little or no

personal knowledge of the applicant has more limited value.

William,

My guess is that it's based on 9 FAM 40.41 (Public Charge) Notes N4.6-3, and in particular N4.6-3c.

Although I have no experience with the consular section in Manilla I would expect that a well qualified parent of the petitioner would be found acceptable as the sponsor if the information is well presented.

Yodrak

john_and_marlene,

Good point, I keep forgetting that fact. I have also wondered why that is. Any ideas?

Manila does not accept cosponsors for K1 visas

[Yodrak 7]

William,

Yes, that's it. Along with paragraph c above it.

Most consular sections do not seem to have much concern with who the sponsor is as long as they have the financial strength, perhaps because they know that an I-864 will be required in the not too distant future. But apparently Manilla takes this guidance to heart and is quite strict about considering how reliable the sponsor might be in addition to their financial strength. That's my guess about it, anyway.

Yodrak

Yodrak,

Would this be the section in red below?

Interesting. So the conclusion I draw, is that a co-sponsor should be a "close" family member or lifelong friend, to hold any weight at the Consular Section.

NOTE: When there are compelling or forceful ties between the applicant

and the sponsor, such as a close family relationship or friendship of long

standing, you may favorably consider the affidavit. On the other hand, an

affidavit submitted by a casual friend or distant relative who has little or no

personal knowledge of the applicant has more limited value.