More Evidence at NVC Stage

[dwheels76 5,468]

Wanted to ask those who have, know someone who has or just your opinions are okay. I am now at NVC (well case on its way soon to arrive and get my case#). I have been keeping a folder of more evidence of on going relationship part II the insurance, pension survivor beneficiary, emergency contacts, Social security survivor beneficiary,bank accounts, utilities, more chats, emails, phone records, etc...

Since we know there's no guarantee any more evidence will be requested at interview should I send with my AOS packet more evidence? Isf so which do you feel is the best kind. I did front-load real good, Not too crazy. Just samples of emails for every month for a year (I have 3 years worth). I mean I could print the 5000 pages of text message, 799 of Facebook emails, 5000 to 7000 Hotmail emails but really who wants that.

Just wondering if adding at NVC could slow stuff down or is it a help, hindrance or one of those who knows can't hurt things.

All suggestions and comments are welcomed.

**Oh what to bring to the interview**

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

No

You will just give them more fuel to deny on. And it isn't part of the offically reviewed evidence. It puts the mess in a odd place as far as the petition goes ( I actually suspect because it wasn't offically reviewed the procedure would be to dispose of it without informing you giving you false hope that it was includied)

When it comes interview time. Gather your emails/texts/ ?? into screens. Print each screen set of the inbox. Then decide a noce even number ( 50 ,100 , 500 ?) that will give you a decent number of samples. Print every Xth item and highlight it in the master list.

[dwheels76 5,468]

No

You will just give them more fuel to deny on. And it isn't part of the offically reviewed evidence. It puts the mess in a odd place as far as the petition goes ( I actually suspect because it wasn't offically reviewed the procedure would be to dispose of it without informing you giving you false hope that it was includied)

When it comes interview time. Gather your emails/texts/ ?? into screens. Print each screen set of the inbox. Then decide a noce even number ( 50 ,100 , 500 ?) that will give you a decent number of samples. Print every Xth item and highlight it in the master list.

WOW never thought of that. I men I guess its like aside stepping USCIS and seeking stuff in. I see really no need to add I feel good with what is there. Now the fun of getting tat interview bundle together. Thank you. I appreciate and value your input

[winnie george 67]

i was actually planning on sending more evidence to NVC, i have read some threads about that and some people say its okay to do that, some people say it might slow your process. kinda confused about what to do well i guess i just have to bring anymore evidence to the interview..................

thank you NigeriaorBust for ur reply

[AlexBa 5]

Winnie George, I am planning to add more evidence to my NVC packet when it arrives. I do not have an immigration lawyer however I did invest an hour with one who gave me great tips.

One that I will be adding are the copies of the WU receipts showing that I have been supporting my husband over an extended period of time. Also learned to make sure that any statements made in the initial petition have supporting documents, pics, receipts, etc. So I am glad I took the time and money to talk with someone with experience. The lawyer did advise to add to the NVC packet so that is what I am going to do.

[AlexBa 5]

dwheels76, I'm so excited to hear that your case number is on the way. There's hope for us as I filed just a few weeks after you. Today makes it 90 days so far since the petition was received. Hope ours is coming soon too.

[Olomi_811 130]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/369938-dave-seminara-article-on-marriage-fraud/page__p__5402484__fromsearch__1#entry5402484

[memlaura 60]

Winnie George, I am planning to add more evidence to my NVC packet when it arrives. I do not have an immigration lawyer however I did invest an hour with one who gave me great tips.

One that I will be adding are the copies of the WU receipts showing that I have been supporting my husband over an extended period of time. Also learned to make sure that any statements made in the initial petition have supporting documents, pics, receipts, etc. So I am glad I took the time and money to talk with someone with experience. The lawyer did advise to add to the NVC packet so that is what I am going to do.

I was told (not by a lawyer of course) not to include WU info on money sent to my husband because that could be looked at in a negitive light.... This is such a confusing process on what you should and should not send....and maybe the difference would be the amount I have only sent a few hundred not really supporting him just birthday and helping out from time to time.. Anyway if you think that will be helpful I could use all the help I can get lol

[Kayode&Ginie 11]

Debbie, I asked the same question and got the same answer. Then I did some research, but I can't seem to find the link now!! I just hate that, but it was someone talking to Darnell about how he had specifically spoken to supervisors at the NVC and he asked specific questions about this topic. They stated that you could in fact send additional evidence with the ds-230 packet, not the AOS packet. Hopefully Darnell will see this and respond with the link I can't find.

I will be frontloading at the NVC due to the fact of Nigeria being a difficult embassy.

@AlexBa I do not believe that you sending in WU receipts that you've sent your husband money is a good idea.

Good Luck to all of you on your processes!!

[AlexBa 5]

The lawyer I spoke with said that the receipts show that as a married couple we are discussing and handling our finances together. I am still going to add at NVC stage. This lawyer is very experienced (over 30 yrs)solely dealing with immigration. I will let all know how things turn out after the interview stage.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Marc Ellis didn't recommend adding things at NVC , frontloading the original submission but not at NVC. The issue is the added ifor has not been reviewed, it can be used as evidence for grounds to deny but is NOT part of the approved petition. The approved petition is what was examined by the adjudacator. If the petition if faulty then it can still be denied even if you atempt to pad it in the middle. The denial has to be based on something was not known to the person that approved the petition. You are about to provide them with a pile of things not known to that person. It may not go the way you think.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

The lawyer I spoke with said that the receipts show that as a married couple we are discussing and handling our finances together. I am still going to add at NVC stage. This lawyer is very experienced (over 30 yrs)solely dealing with immigration. I will let all know how things turn out after the interview stage.

Has your lawyer experience with Lagos ? It is one thing to intermingle finances and another to support someone in a high fraud country.

Remember it depends on what country/consulate you are dealing with when it comes to submitting WU's or not. I would get a 2. opinion from a lawyer

who deals with Lagos on that issue.

Personally I would not submit them but instead show a mutual bank/savings account if that is possible, that shows both of your funds co mingled, not just support from your side which can be interpreted the wrong way. I have read many posts where the CO made degrading remarks about such financial support coming from the woman to the man.

It may work for a European country but careful with Lagos. When sending only Birthday/Christmas gift WU's be careful as well because the next question may be ok and what did he send you ? In other words what have you done for me lately baby ! The burden of proof of genuine intentions is with the beneficiary. Last but not least, if someone would submit WU's from the beneficiary to the petitioner then it would be misconstrued as him "buying" his visa from you. With WU's you really can't win much either way you look at it with some consulates.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Regular WU reciepts to Lagos imply more that the Nigerian has found a person to take money from than proof of marital bliss. Your spouse was living before you came along , and the CO's in Lagos are well aware of the tricks used by bad boys to milk money from others. you should never treat Lagos like any other place.

[Omeka 14]

When it comes to front loading application,it better to do it at the initial stage before approval by the USCIS.After the approval,what exactly are you front loading again?The requested forms for NVC and AOS is to finalized the process and make your beneficiary ready for an interview.For other ongoing relationship evidences,keep them and hand it over to him when going for interview.

[Kayode&Ginie 11]

Thanks to Olomi_811 I realized the link I had mentioned was also a part of the thread in the link she put above.

Here is the link from Darnell that I mentioned about adding the evidence to the NVC stage.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/267559-usa-is-now-arizona/page__st__60__p__4100571#entry4100571

Hope everyone decides what is best for their case. At least seek the knowledge to make an informed decision either way!

Edited July 9, 2012 by Kayode&Ginie