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For some strange reason, I was sitting here, reading the forums, doing what I do, when a :idea: (thought) struck me.

Gays or Lesbians!!

There are no gays or lesbians on VJ. Now, Im not homophobic by any means of the imagination, I have several friends and family members in the above category. And I'm sure several VJ posters have family members and friends also in the same category.

But I realised, that not only does the Government dictate who can or cant come into this country, it also most certainly dictates, that if you are a Gay or Lesbian, and are in love with your significant other and live in another country, theres no way in hell, your getting here on a Marriage based visa!

I know its a weird thought, and a little off the wall. Im sorry if it offends anyone in here, that is truly not my intention. I just realised, that even though VJ is a diverse group of people, it is not truly diverse, sexual orientation speaking. BI's, maybe there a few, But I'm not one of them.

Jodee :blush:

"When a man is educated, an individual is educated; when a woman is educated, a family and a country are educated."

— Mahatma Gandhi

The timeline... (Frankfurt) for the kids visas

10/22/2007 Filed I-130 x 2 in person + paid 710 USD (355 each )

10/22/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 x 2

10/22/2007 Received the document checklist and FRN (case) numbers

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved, but I didn't know. I was away at the time, didn't get confirmation letters til I got back from the states.

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives in tha mail. According to the date received stamp on back of envelope at my post box.

Will now wait til hubby is back from Iraq to fax in checklist readiness, even though, I have been ready since day of lodging I-130's. all except medical.

02/18/2008 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate.

02/25/2008 Medicals completed.

02/25/2008 Appt letters in mail for appt on March 7th. Cant go due to prior military commitments. Emailed consulate and received an amended appt date of March 12th 2008.

03/12/2008 Visa interview - APPROVED x 2

03/27/2008 Visa's finally generated. I emailed the consulate. they apologised for the delay. They forgot to issue the visas after approval.

03/31/2008 Received visas

04/26/2008 Flying out of Frankfurt to next duty station on orders.

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AnaAndDaniel Experienced

AnaAndDaniel   0

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not offended. but yeah, this site tends to the marriage based visas and thus, by US legal definition, gays/lesbian cannot apply.

But I imagine that if it were a family visa (son/daughter/whatever) then the possibily of said applicant could be gay/lesbian.

Having said that, I don't think you would see them coming on to VJ.

Daniel

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Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

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Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

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K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

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NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

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*Robert*   2

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:yes:

K-1 Timeline

11-29-05: Mailed I-129F Petition to CSC

12-06-05: NOA1

03-02-06: NOA2

03-23-06: Interview Date May 16

05-17-06: K-1 Visa Issued

05-20-06: Arrived at POE, Honolulu

07-17-06: Married

AOS Timeline

08-14-06: Mailed I-485 to Chicago

08-24-06: NOA for I-485

09-08-06: Biometrics Appointment

09-25-06: I-485 transferred to CSC

09-28-06: I-485 received at CSC

10-18-06: AOS Approved

10-21-06: Approval notice mailed

10-23-06: Received "Welcome Letter"

10-27-06: Received 2 yr Green Card

I-751 Timeline

07-21-08: Mailed I-751 to VSC

07-25-08: NOA for I-751

08-27-08: Biometrics Appointment

02-25-09: I-751 transferred to CSC

04-17-09: I-751 Approved

06-22-09: Received 10 yr Green Card

N-400 Timeline

07-20-09: Mailed N-400 to Lewisville, TX

07-23-09: NOA for N-400

08-14-09: Biometrics Appointment

09-08-09: Interview Date Oct 07

10-30-09: Oath Ceremony

11-20-09: Received Passport!!!

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*Robert*   2

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I suppose they could find someone willing to marry them just to get them a visa to come over and be with their gay lover... of course that may be the case with some here and they just don't post about it possibly because they don't want to be exposed? :P

ewwwwwwwwwww :P

K-1 Timeline

11-29-05: Mailed I-129F Petition to CSC

12-06-05: NOA1

03-02-06: NOA2

03-23-06: Interview Date May 16

05-17-06: K-1 Visa Issued

05-20-06: Arrived at POE, Honolulu

07-17-06: Married

AOS Timeline

08-14-06: Mailed I-485 to Chicago

08-24-06: NOA for I-485

09-08-06: Biometrics Appointment

09-25-06: I-485 transferred to CSC

09-28-06: I-485 received at CSC

10-18-06: AOS Approved

10-21-06: Approval notice mailed

10-23-06: Received "Welcome Letter"

10-27-06: Received 2 yr Green Card

I-751 Timeline

07-21-08: Mailed I-751 to VSC

07-25-08: NOA for I-751

08-27-08: Biometrics Appointment

02-25-09: I-751 transferred to CSC

04-17-09: I-751 Approved

06-22-09: Received 10 yr Green Card

N-400 Timeline

07-20-09: Mailed N-400 to Lewisville, TX

07-23-09: NOA for N-400

08-14-09: Biometrics Appointment

09-08-09: Interview Date Oct 07

10-30-09: Oath Ceremony

11-20-09: Received Passport!!!

Alex+R Veteran

Alex+R   0

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I've thought of this a lot of times! It's weird!

I heard about an Australian lesbian who married a gay guy to be with her lover, but she had a previous overstay and the guy didn't want to go through the waiver process...

It's really sad. Fortunately, they COULD move to Australia if they'd lived together for a year somewhere--not every country has domestic partnership laws.

*Alexandra*

(I did it)

jodee Proficient

jodee   30

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Veiled princess,...

Thank you for mentioning that. I was going too, but I felt I had already maybe crossed the line, by bringing up the subject, so didnt mention what you said.

I know a lot of people dont believe in the GAY MARRIAGE thing, but, I personally agree with what Erekose said

The government apparently sees fit to legislate on marriage, but not on love - which is ironic because its what all relationships are supposed to be based on.

Jodee

"When a man is educated, an individual is educated; when a woman is educated, a family and a country are educated."

— Mahatma Gandhi

The timeline... (Frankfurt) for the kids visas

10/22/2007 Filed I-130 x 2 in person + paid 710 USD (355 each )

10/22/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 x 2

10/22/2007 Received the document checklist and FRN (case) numbers

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved, but I didn't know. I was away at the time, didn't get confirmation letters til I got back from the states.

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives in tha mail. According to the date received stamp on back of envelope at my post box.

Will now wait til hubby is back from Iraq to fax in checklist readiness, even though, I have been ready since day of lodging I-130's. all except medical.

02/18/2008 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate.

02/25/2008 Medicals completed.

02/25/2008 Appt letters in mail for appt on March 7th. Cant go due to prior military commitments. Emailed consulate and received an amended appt date of March 12th 2008.

03/12/2008 Visa interview - APPROVED x 2

03/27/2008 Visa's finally generated. I emailed the consulate. they apologised for the delay. They forgot to issue the visas after approval.

03/31/2008 Received visas

04/26/2008 Flying out of Frankfurt to next duty station on orders.

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I have a few friends who have had or are having a difficult time with immigration issues because one member of the relationship is a non USC. With all the other inequities of the law, these couples are hit with another barrier- the inability to sponsor their partners to stay in the US.

Many countries in the world- even those who do not officially recognize same marriage allow nationals to sponsor their smae sex partners.

It's a shame we don't.

erfoud44.jpg

24 March 2009 I-751 received by USCIS

27 March 2009 Check Cashed

30 March 2009 NOA received

8 April 2009 Biometric notice arrived by mail

24 April 2009 Biometrics scheduled

26 April 2009 Touched

...once again waiting

1 September 2009 (just over 5 months) Approved and card production ordered.

meauxna Mentor

meauxna   15

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I suppose they could find someone willing to marry them just to get them a visa to come over and be with their gay lover...

Yup, people do that. Google "MOC" or Marriage of Convenience.

which is ironic because its what all relationships are supposed to be based on.

Says who?

As one respectable immigration lawyer likes to post: What's love got to do with it?

:)

there was that issue of polyamory a year or two ago..... troll perhaps, but was still brought up as an issue

:star:

Don't think they were a troll--they had a happy and lovely ceremony and are doing quite well last time I read..

:)

AND for the further interested, the federal law that prohibits immigration benefits based on a (legal) same sex marriage is called DOMA: the Defense of Marriage Act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

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Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

ceriserose Proficient

ceriserose   1

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there was that issue of polyamory a year or two ago..... troll perhaps, but was still brought up as an issue

:star:

:yes:

I don't think that was a troll at all. And that person was marrying his/her SO who was a different gender, according to USCIS rules for the type of visa they were on. That discussion was mostly about whether or not it would be considered a crime of moral turpitude to knowingly immigrate with the polyamory as a factor in the marriage.

Not exactly the same as homosexual marriage, but along the lines of "outside the norm" for the US.

(And wow, you have a great memory! I'd forgotten all about that one! :thumbs: )

Electricity is really just organized lightning.

jodee Proficient

jodee   30

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Meauxna,..

How the hell are you? How is the painting going?

Once again, you have perhaps opened my eyes to something I initially agreed with, but didn't really know why?

What does love have to do with it,??....GOOD POINT, and something, in this particular topic, I hadnt thought about, when it comes to relationships.

"When a man is educated, an individual is educated; when a woman is educated, a family and a country are educated."

— Mahatma Gandhi

The timeline... (Frankfurt) for the kids visas

10/22/2007 Filed I-130 x 2 in person + paid 710 USD (355 each )

10/22/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 x 2

10/22/2007 Received the document checklist and FRN (case) numbers

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved, but I didn't know. I was away at the time, didn't get confirmation letters til I got back from the states.

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives in tha mail. According to the date received stamp on back of envelope at my post box.

Will now wait til hubby is back from Iraq to fax in checklist readiness, even though, I have been ready since day of lodging I-130's. all except medical.

02/18/2008 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate.

02/25/2008 Medicals completed.

02/25/2008 Appt letters in mail for appt on March 7th. Cant go due to prior military commitments. Emailed consulate and received an amended appt date of March 12th 2008.

03/12/2008 Visa interview - APPROVED x 2

03/27/2008 Visa's finally generated. I emailed the consulate. they apologised for the delay. They forgot to issue the visas after approval.

03/31/2008 Received visas

04/26/2008 Flying out of Frankfurt to next duty station on orders.

Karen_L Rising Star

Karen_L   1

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For some strange reason, I was sitting here, reading the forums, doing what I do, when a :idea: (thought) struck me.

Gays or Lesbians!!

There are no gays or lesbians on VJ. Now, Im not homophobic by any means of the imagination, I have several friends and family members in the above category. And I'm sure several VJ posters have family members and friends also in the same category.

But I realised, that not only does the Government dictate who can or cant come into this country, it also most certainly dictates, that if you are a Gay or Lesbian, and are in love with your significant other and live in another country, theres no way in hell, your getting here on a Marriage based visa!

I know its a weird thought, and a little off the wall. Im sorry if it offends anyone in here, that is truly not my intention. I just realised, that even though VJ is a diverse group of people, it is not truly diverse, sexual orientation speaking. BI's, maybe there a few, But I'm not one of them.

Jodee :blush:

This has occurred to me before too, actually. It's a sad situation (at least to me it is, anyway).

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7/27/2006: Arrival in NYC! -- I-94/EAD stamp in passport

8/08/2006: Applied for Social Security Card

8/18/2006: Social Security Card arrives

8/25/2006: WEDDING!

AOS...

9/11/2006: Appointment with Civil Surgeon for vaccination supplement

9/18/2006: Mailed AOS and renewal EAD applications to Chicago

10/2/2006: NOA1's for AOS and EAD applications

10/13/2006: Biometrics taken

10/14/2006: NOA -- case transferred to CSC

10/30/2006: AOS approved without interview, greencard will be sent! :)

11/04/2006: Greencard arrives in the mail! :-D

... No more USCIS for two whole years! ...

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