To those of you griping about IMBRA

[TucsonBill 0]

I know a lot of you have had ridiculously long waits and delays because of IMBRA, and I have a short story for you:

I know a person through a business associate, (he is NOT my friend, in fact I loath his behavior), who has been abusing the I-129f petition for years. He has brought several women to the USA for the 90 day period, used them, and sent them away packing before the 90 days was up. He brags about all the women he's 'had' from all over the world.

I can most certainly sympathize with those of you who have had to wait so long, and I also think it must be he|| to have to see people who applied AFTER you getting approvals BEFORE you, (I'd be pis**d as he|| to!). The USCIS should be focusing in the older cases before working on the newer ones.

At the same time, I am extremely happy that what this SOB has been doing will no longer be permitted. At the very least, if he is ever permitted to bring anyone else here again, they are going to be informed how many he's done this to in the past, if i understand the new law correctly.

Bill

[iceyspots 0]

That is a terrible thing to do to anybody. He must be an idiot. There are plenty of women in this country with their legs wide open, why bother petitioning and temporarily destroying someones life?

[sbgwolf1 0]

can I take him out back and teach him a lesson. That is unbelievable, untolorable....i just hope that karma comes back on him one day

[JenT 0]

That is a terrible thing to do to anybody. He must be an idiot. There are plenty of women in this country with their legs wide open, why bother petitioning and temporarily destroying someones life?

Must be a control thing... he'd have to answer for his behavior if he did that to women here. This way, he sends them off and moves on to the next one, relatively anonymously.

One could only hope that he gets his reward.... like a few untreatable STDs that make his life so miserable, he can't continue the behavior (or pass it along)...

We've had many a debate about the reasonability of IMBRA... there have been some opposed to its concept. but from what I read, most seemed more frustrated about the way it was implemented, not about the legislation itself....

Jen

Edited August 9, 2006 by JenT

[dwar49 0]

That is a terrible thing to do to anybody. He must be an idiot. There are plenty of women in this country with their legs wide open, why bother petitioning and temporarily destroying someones life?

Must be a control thing... he'd have to answer for his behavior if he did that to women here. This way, he sends them off and moves on to the next one, relatively anonymously.

One you only hope that he gets his reward.... like a few untreatable STDs that make his life so miserable, he can't continue the behavior (or pass it along)...

We've had many a debate about the reasonability of IMBRA... there have been some opposed to its concept. but from what I read, most seemed more frustrated about the way it was implemented, not about the legislation itself....

Jen

He is one of the reasons why IMBRA was enacted in the first place. As Jen said most of us agree with it in concept and why it was enacted, it was just the implementation of it that really was absurd. Not the fault of the law but of the people within USCIS that havent handled it well at all.

[iceyspots 0]

That is a terrible thing to do to anybody. He must be an idiot. There are plenty of women in this country with their legs wide open, why bother petitioning and temporarily destroying someones life?

Must be a control thing... he'd have to answer for his behavior if he did that to women here. This way, he sends them off and moves on to the next one, relatively anonymously.

One you only hope that he gets his reward.... like a few untreatable STDs that make his life so miserable, he can't continue the behavior (or pass it along)...

We've had many a debate about the reasonability of IMBRA... there have been some opposed to its concept. but from what I read, most seemed more frustrated about the way it was implemented, not about the legislation itself....

Jen

Yes.. I have no problem with IMBRA, but I do have a problem with how the government waited and let cases go, and then went back and said "oooops... we messed up so screw your plans and your interviews." It could've well been avoided.

[sbgwolf1 0]

If I cant get my baby over here because she is my second petition (the first cheated...also never made it to the interview)..maybe I will look up your 'friend' since people like him helped create this inclusion in the law

[Dean iWait 0]

I'm a firm believer in kharma. What goes around comes around. Like a lot of laws it ain't all good and it ain't all bad. The lack of implementation is what has got everybody here upset for the most part.

[William33 110]

I have only one thing to say about that guy:

Get a ROPE!!!!

[Caroline and Phil 14]

Because of people like this guy we have to wait so long.

[evansfan 0]

It does not apply to me, and I hope it never does, but do you need the waiver on your third K1 application or your second, regardless of the 2 year limit. Jay

[sbgwolf1 0]

It does not apply to me, and I hope it never does, but do you need the waiver on your third K1 application or your second, regardless of the 2 year limit. Jay

Within the 2 years, it is the second one..outside of that, I am unclear.

[lost in the woods 0]

i'm going to be bluntly honest about the original poster.

Too bad.

you have demonstrated one malicious individual who abuses a system, that individual has not been punished.

tens of thousands of honest people who try to do it the right way are being punished because of one bad apple.

That is what we have fallen to as a society but it's not acceptable, you cannot punish everyone for the acts of an individual and you cannot punish everyone to try to protect one or two random people from doing something stupid. That last part is a direct reference to the high profile case that inspired this law.

The change is immoral, the way this country sometimes over reacts with far reaching consequences to honest citizens trying to make their way in the world and do things the right way is also totally wrong.

bad things sometimes happen to good people for no reason and the government has no business trying to legislate their protection.

[Kobayashi 0]

i'm going to be bluntly honest about the original poster.

Too bad.

you have demonstrated one malicious individual who abuses a system, that individual has not been punished.

tens of thousands of honest people who try to do it the right way are being punished because of one bad apple.

That is what we have fallen to as a society but it's not acceptable, you cannot punish everyone for the acts of an individual and you cannot punish everyone to try to protect one or two random people from doing something stupid. That last part is a direct reference to the high profile case that inspired this law.

The change is immoral, the way this country sometimes over reacts with far reaching consequences to honest citizens trying to make their way in the world and do things the right way is also totally wrong.

bad things sometimes happen to good people for no reason and the government has no business trying to legislate their protection.

It is not punishing everyone for the sake of one individual. Think of how many other people may be doing this also. This is only one story and although it's not ideal for people to have to wait longer to bring their loved-ones to the U.S, hopefully is stop aholes like this from continuing to use and abuse the system.

You may not like it, but if the shoe were on the other foot and your daughter was going to marry a man in a foreign country, wouldn't you like to make sure that there was a sfety net in place so this kind of thing doesn't happen??

[gcox457 0]

i'm going to be bluntly honest about the original poster.

Too bad.

you have demonstrated one malicious individual who abuses a system, that individual has not been punished.

tens of thousands of honest people who try to do it the right way are being punished because of one bad apple.

That is what we have fallen to as a society but it's not acceptable, you cannot punish everyone for the acts of an individual and you cannot punish everyone to try to protect one or two random people from doing something stupid. That last part is a direct reference to the high profile case that inspired this law.

The change is immoral, the way this country sometimes over reacts with far reaching consequences to honest citizens trying to make their way in the world and do things the right way is also totally wrong.

bad things sometimes happen to good people for no reason and the government has no business trying to legislate their protection.

Wow, what an incredibly short-sighted viewpoint. I suppose since Murder only occurs to 1 out of 15000 people each year, that the government should just get rid of the laws prohibiting that too? How about Drunk Driving? Robbery? The list goes on and on. If there is one isolated event...no law is needed...I agree. But you have to look at the scale of the number of events, and the impact those events has on people's lives. The circumstances the OP listed are not isolated events...but rather a single sampling in a large number of documented abuses of the prior system. The girls that the "business associate" used got off lucky...many of them wind up physically abused before being kicked to the curb. Being sent back to their home country, often without a pot to piss in, is considered a fantastic outcome compared to how many of them wound up. I'm sorry that adding a measure of "complete disclosure" in order to protect foreign nationals who are literally putting their lives into the hands of these USC's upsets you. But the way I see it...if it's good enough for the Real Estate industry, then it should be good enough for immigration.

It sucks that the USCIS has dropped the ball on implementing the program (DHS failing at something? Surprise Surprise)....but the rationale behind the legislation is both sound and over-due.

Edited August 9, 2006 by gcox457