Poland Visitor Visa

[Richard-Joanna 1]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Since your in the middle of getting the K-1, you probably will not be able to get the visitors visa, especially since they denied her once before.

You would probably be better off staying there to visit, and wait for the K-1.

Then she can come and you don't have to worry about the visitors visa.

But on the other hand, it would not hurt to try, your evidence is pretty good in showing strong ties, it's up to the CO now.

good luck!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

She will likely not get a tourist visa from Poland, especially NOT if she is the beneficiary of an I-129f on file. I had the same situation with my fiancee (now wife) from Ukraine. Basically...ain't gonna happen. A "marrying age, working age" single woman from Eastern Europe/FSU has half the chance of a snowball in hell to get a tourist visa. Go to Poland and visit her.

I lived in Ukraine, my wife now lives here and we agree, when boiled down to basics it is not so much different really. And Poland is perhaps more like the USA than Ukraine. The biggest difference she sees is that now she lives on a rural island in a lake and before she was in the center of a big city. There is more difference between city and rural life than between countries. Just remind her that clothes and shoes are MUCH cheaper here! She will like it.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

All good thoughts, now let e play CO for you reviewing her application for tourist visa...

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She will force us to allow them in later She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), she will sell the flat and have plenty of money to stay in the US until she gets an illegal job has all her family there, OR she will give the paid for flat to her fa,ily ain return for caring for her children a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She will withdraw it when she is in the USA with her debit card She currently does not have a job, See, told you. but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) Visa fraud, gets you barred for life...say Bye bye to the K-1 visa All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence. didn't work then, will definitely not work now, now she is trying again, basically a good indication she wants to come for other than a visit, and now has an I-129f pending. Are you kidding?

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. Never make travel arrangeents without a valid visa in hand...apllies for the K-1 also, when you have it in hand, buy your plane tickets. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland. Yeah, of course, why wouldn't she? Are you comparing the Dominican Republic to the USA? "Well, Mr. Consular Officer, she left the Dominican Republic where she knows no one and, well, it is the Dominican Republic, to come back to Poland, I am sure she will leave the USA, aren't you?" Be serious, because THEY are.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc... And if she doesn't like the teachers????

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome Sorry if it wasn't what you want to here. Save the money you are wasting on tourist visa applications for when she comes.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

Seriously, well I was serious before but a bit tongue in cheek, the schools are better here in terms of physical property, class size, and general facilities. Much better chairs and desks and fun things like rocket building and woodworking class, but the education is of lower quality. If her kids do well in school there (grades) they will probably be bumped up one or two grades here. Our 13 year old was bumped up from 8th to 10th grade after 4 weeks and is getting straight A's now. The principal said (yesterday) they could probably bump him up to 11th grade and just let him take the 11th grade final exams, but graduating a 14 year old from high school would accomplish...what? He didn't speak English at all until one year ago when we started him with a tutor 3 days a week in Ukraine. He was started in an ESL class here, taken out of it after moving to 10th grade and gets A's in his regular English classes in 10th grade and is near the top of the class! He is far ahead, in English, to most of the native speakers in his class. And he isn't even what I would call a "dedicated" student compared to his 17 year old brother, the one in his second year of college!

But he was happy he doesn't have to clean the school building after class, with the other students, like he did in Ukraine. We have PAID custodians to do that!

[Richard-Joanna 1]

I appreciate your point of view and you are probably right... Having said that, as an American that travels in his work I have found it very easy to just pick up and go... Even my visa to China last year was a breeze... applied for a multi-entry visa and got it in less than 24 hours.

It frosts my behind to know that my SO is a responsible citizen with all the right intentions and she was denied and probably will be again. I, being as stubborn as I am, cannot and will not sit still and do nothing. The cost is not important its only $131.00 and from my point of view, the benefits outweigh all the problems.

I do agree about the visa fraud and will not let her put this work down on her application. Too much at stake to even consider it.

It seems to me, since the burden of proof is on the applicant that there should be a way to work within the system. I just do not know exactly how. I was hoping to find other people from Poland that have had similar experiences and could guide me.

I was glad to read your comments on your children and how they have adapted to school here... it is one of my biggest concerns... it is very important to me that the children acclimate and have a good life here... it will be a process i am sure and I am willing to do all that I can to help in that regard. I am pretty lucky that I live is a very good school system. They have Polish language teachers and have programs to help as well.

Thanks again,

Richard

[payxibka 10,045]

I appreciate your point of view and you are probably right... Having said that, as an American that travels in his work I have found it very easy to just pick up and go... Even my visa to China last year was a breeze... applied for a multi-entry visa and got it in less than 24 hours.

It frosts my behind to know that my SO is a responsible citizen with all the right intentions and she was denied and probably will be again. I, being as stubborn as I am, cannot and will not sit still and do nothing. The cost is not important its only $131.00 and from my point of view, the benefits outweigh all the problems.

I do agree about the visa fraud and will not let her put this work down on her application. Too much at stake to even consider it.

It seems to me, since the burden of proof is on the applicant that there should be a way to work within the system. I just do not know exactly how. I was hoping to find other people from Poland that have had similar experiences and could guide me.

I was glad to read your comments on your children and how they have adapted to school here... it is one of my biggest concerns... it is very important to me that the children acclimate and have a good life here... it will be a process i am sure and I am willing to do all that I can to help in that regard. I am pretty lucky that I live is a very good school system. They have Polish language teachers and have programs to help as well.

Thanks again,

Richard

If you want your fellow Poles point of view, then the K-1 is the wrong forum to post... moving to the regional

[Richard-Joanna 1]

If you want your fellow Poles point of view, then the K-1 is the wrong forum to post... moving to the regional

Sorry, I was looking at the Poland forum, but I did not see how to post there...

[payxibka 10,045]

If you want your fellow Poles point of view, then the K-1 is the wrong forum to post... moving to the regional

Sorry, I was looking at the Poland forum, but I did not see how to post there...

not a Poland forum per se but a Polish thread in the europe forum

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36

Edited March 31, 2009 by payxibka

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I appreciate your point of view and you are probably right... Having said that, as an American that travels in his work I have found it very easy to just pick up and go... Even my visa to China last year was a breeze... applied for a multi-entry visa and got it in less than 24 hours.

It frosts my behind to know that my SO is a responsible citizen with all the right intentions and she was denied and probably will be again. I, being as stubborn as I am, cannot and will not sit still and do nothing. The cost is not important its only $131.00 and from my point of view, the benefits outweigh all the problems.

I do agree about the visa fraud and will not let her put this work down on her application. Too much at stake to even consider it.

It seems to me, since the burden of proof is on the applicant that there should be a way to work within the system. I just do not know exactly how. I was hoping to find other people from Poland that have had similar experiences and could guide me.

I was glad to read your comments on your children and how they have adapted to school here... it is one of my biggest concerns... it is very important to me that the children acclimate and have a good life here... it will be a process i am sure and I am willing to do all that I can to help in that regard. I am pretty lucky that I live is a very good school system. They have Polish language teachers and have programs to help as well.

Thanks again,

Richard

I agree it seems unfair and freedom of travel is one thing most Americans take for granted, really. When I told my family that my fiancee could not come to visit me they assumed it was because she was "from the Soviet Union" and Ukraine would not let her leave! LOL Imagine their surprise when I told them it was OUR country that wouldn't let her in!!!!!!!! The problem with Eastern European countries is the people are really well educated and quite industrious, very willing to learn the English language and many of them already speak it, combine this with the fact they are badly underpaid ($300 per month is average in Ukraine) and they just don't believe they will come here as visitors and go back when they find out they can make a months wages in a couple days. Or less.

Regarding Polish speaking teachers, it is your own decision, exposure to the language is the best way to get them speaking it. Hopefully the Polish speaking teachers will know this and not rely to much on the Polish language. We have drastically limited the younger sons exposure to Russian. Of course I never want him to lose his Russian speaking but it does him no good to come home from school and watch only Russian movies or speak only Russian at home.

[amberdima 6]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

Seriously, well I was serious before but a bit tongue in cheek, the schools are better here in terms of physical property, class size, and general facilities. Much better chairs and desks and fun things like rocket building and woodworking class, but the education is of lower quality. If her kids do well in school there (grades) they will probably be bumped up one or two grades here. Our 13 year old was bumped up from 8th to 10th grade after 4 weeks and is getting straight A's now. The principal said (yesterday) they could probably bump him up to 11th grade and just let him take the 11th grade final exams, but graduating a 14 year old from high school would accomplish...what? He didn't speak English at all until one year ago when we started him with a tutor 3 days a week in Ukraine. He was started in an ESL class here, taken out of it after moving to 10th grade and gets A's in his regular English classes in 10th grade and is near the top of the class! He is far ahead, in English, to most of the native speakers in his class. And he isn't even what I would call a "dedicated" student compared to his 17 year old brother, the one in his second year of college!

But he was happy he doesn't have to clean the school building after class, with the other students, like he did in Ukraine. We have PAID custodians to do that!

there are many children from the ukraine and poland in my school district. contrarily to your experience, many of these kids are held back due to the language barrier topped with learning disabilities; however, some excel. it's a natural diversity. if your kid is intelligent and hard-working in their native country, but with limited to no english, they'll catch up- but i don't see how it's possible to throw them ahead a grade level when they can't speak the language.

[Richard-Joanna 1]

I am not too worried about the children. I am lucky to live in a very good district. I do not believe there are very many children from Poland, in fact, none that I am aware of. I think between the help of the school system and some private tutoring the children will do fine.

My current concern is trying to help my SO in getting a tourist visa and while I appreciate the comments and the devil's advocate approach, I do not take no for an answer very well... so I continue to look for reasonable solutions. It seems to me that the mere fact that we have filed for a K1 and K2 should say that we want to go about this correctly and that my SO has every intention to returning to Poland after her visit here.

Comments welcome,

Richard

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

Seriously, well I was serious before but a bit tongue in cheek, the schools are better here in terms of physical property, class size, and general facilities. Much better chairs and desks and fun things like rocket building and woodworking class, but the education is of lower quality. If her kids do well in school there (grades) they will probably be bumped up one or two grades here. Our 13 year old was bumped up from 8th to 10th grade after 4 weeks and is getting straight A's now. The principal said (yesterday) they could probably bump him up to 11th grade and just let him take the 11th grade final exams, but graduating a 14 year old from high school would accomplish...what? He didn't speak English at all until one year ago when we started him with a tutor 3 days a week in Ukraine. He was started in an ESL class here, taken out of it after moving to 10th grade and gets A's in his regular English classes in 10th grade and is near the top of the class! He is far ahead, in English, to most of the native speakers in his class. And he isn't even what I would call a "dedicated" student compared to his 17 year old brother, the one in his second year of college!

But he was happy he doesn't have to clean the school building after class, with the other students, like he did in Ukraine. We have PAID custodians to do that!

there are many children from the ukraine and poland in my school district. contrarily to your experience, many of these kids are held back due to the language barrier topped with learning disabilities; however, some excel. it's a natural diversity. if your kid is intelligent and hard-working in their native country, but with limited to no english, they'll catch up- but i don't see how it's possible to throw them ahead a grade level when they can't speak the language.

Well he is the only "foreign" student in our district, but it is admittedly very small. He spoke English, just not so well. 9 months of 3 times a week tutoring plus the very limited English he had in school in Ukraine, plus some help from his mother and brother who both speak English very well. He learned very quickly and in fact the teachers were at a loss to "teach" him anything he hadn't already been taught so they called us in about 4 weeks into the school year and asked our permission to bump him up provided he passed all the exams. He Ace'd the 8th grade exams, so they gave him the 9th grade exams, Ace'd 'em. They put him in 10th grade and dropped the ESL English class. He completed 10th grade Geometry by semester break and went on to 11th grade Algebra 2. He will complete that in less than a semester. He does have two extra English classes in place of study halls but other than that a straight up curriculum. Now, he is no more than a "normal" kid in our opinion, and not nearly the deicated student his older brother is. He is no dummy and he is hard working.

My comments were qualified by "if her children do well in Poland...." which our son certainly did well in Ukraine, then there is no reason for them not to excel here. At any rate, that would not and could not be determined by her meeting with the teachers, that is a question for time to tell. My experience is limited, admittedly, but a good student in Poland should be a good student here. My comments were meant as an assurance to the OP and his fiancee that her children can and should do well here if they are good students.

[amberdima 6]

I am seeking advice and help in getting my SO from Poland a US visitor visa while we go through the K1 process. She applied back in October but was denied. During the interview she was timid and was not allowed to show documentation that shows deep roots in Poland. I am going to visit her April 10 through the 18th and want to try again.

My SO has 2 children which will stay behind (on her visit), She owns her own car and flat (fully paid for), has all her family there, a bank account with a reasonable amount on deposit. She currently does not have a job, but does have a company that would say she was working there (if needed) All of this was documented back in October but she was not allowed to even show this evidence.

In October, we were taking a cruise in the Caribbean and had the tickets already booked. In the end, after being denied, I changed our cruise to the Med. She has also traveled to see me in Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic and both trips she returned to Poland.

I would very much like her to visit the US before the K1 to help her in many ways... see the schools the kids will attend (meet with the teachers), see how we live here, which is very different as I am sure you all know... etc...

I know and she knows she will return and do the K1 process... how to convince the Embassy is the question at hand.

I am going to try to go to her interview this time and see if I can do something...

Any and all advice is welcome

Seriously, well I was serious before but a bit tongue in cheek, the schools are better here in terms of physical property, class size, and general facilities. Much better chairs and desks and fun things like rocket building and woodworking class, but the education is of lower quality. If her kids do well in school there (grades) they will probably be bumped up one or two grades here. Our 13 year old was bumped up from 8th to 10th grade after 4 weeks and is getting straight A's now. The principal said (yesterday) they could probably bump him up to 11th grade and just let him take the 11th grade final exams, but graduating a 14 year old from high school would accomplish...what? He didn't speak English at all until one year ago when we started him with a tutor 3 days a week in Ukraine. He was started in an ESL class here, taken out of it after moving to 10th grade and gets A's in his regular English classes in 10th grade and is near the top of the class! He is far ahead, in English, to most of the native speakers in his class. And he isn't even what I would call a "dedicated" student compared to his 17 year old brother, the one in his second year of college!

But he was happy he doesn't have to clean the school building after class, with the other students, like he did in Ukraine. We have PAID custodians to do that!

there are many children from the ukraine and poland in my school district. contrarily to your experience, many of these kids are held back due to the language barrier topped with learning disabilities; however, some excel. it's a natural diversity. if your kid is intelligent and hard-working in their native country, but with limited to no english, they'll catch up- but i don't see how it's possible to throw them ahead a grade level when they can't speak the language.

Well he is the only "foreign" student in our district, but it is admittedly very small. He spoke English, just not so well. 9 months of 3 times a week tutoring plus the very limited English he had in school in Ukraine, plus some help from his mother and brother who both speak English very well. He learned very quickly and in fact the teachers were at a loss to "teach" him anything he hadn't already been taught so they called us in about 4 weeks into the school year and asked our permission to bump him up provided he passed all the exams. He Ace'd the 8th grade exams, so they gave him the 9th grade exams, Ace'd 'em. They put him in 10th grade and dropped the ESL English class. He completed 10th grade Geometry by semester break and went on to 11th grade Algebra 2. He will complete that in less than a semester. He does have two extra English classes in place of study halls but other than that a straight up curriculum. Now, he is no more than a "normal" kid in our opinion, and not nearly the deicated student his older brother is. He is no dummy and he is hard working.

My comments were qualified by "if her children do well in Poland...." which our son certainly did well in Ukraine, then there is no reason for them not to excel here. At any rate, that would not and could not be determined by her meeting with the teachers, that is a question for time to tell. My experience is limited, admittedly, but a good student in Poland should be a good student here. My comments were meant as an assurance to the OP and his fiancee that her children can and should do well here if they are good students.

so now the OP has 2 sides of a story he wasn't looking for...

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am not too worried about the children. I am lucky to live in a very good district. I do not believe there are very many children from Poland, in fact, none that I am aware of. I think between the help of the school system and some private tutoring the children will do fine.

My current concern is trying to help my SO in getting a tourist visa and while I appreciate the comments and the devil's advocate approach, I do not take no for an answer very well... so I continue to look for reasonable solutions. It seems to me that the mere fact that we have filed for a K1 and K2 should say that we want to go about this correctly and that my SO has every intention to returning to Poland after her visit here.

Comments welcome,

Richard

Well there is nothing wrong with continuing to pound on that door. At $131 per knock. If the money is no concern, go ahead. Really, why not? It will not afect the K-1. You can try that argument. The best "tie" one can show in these countries (Eastern Europe) is a substantial income, say from a good business. I doubt Viktor Pinchuk, the steel magnate from Ukraine, would have a hard time getting a tourist visa. Why wouldn't he go back?

From personal experience, prior to our meeting, my wife was denied visitor visas to the USA, Italy and Germany though she owned (and we still own) "paid for" property, had children and a relatively lucrative job as a translator for an Italian furniture business and was, in fact, seeking the visas in connection with her work. She was granted visas to Czech Republic (where I met her) and Andorra at other times. Also to Turkey and that was easy. Twice we went to Turkey for vacations. She says she was treated "like a monkey" at the US consulate and was very afraid to go there for our K-1 visa interview, where we were treated very well. She was not allowed to present much of her evidence at the visitor visa interview and was rejected more or less out-of-hand.

Property can be liquidated and so, unless it is a LOT of property, is not considered a "tie" but why not mention it? Jobs, unless they are really outstanding jobs, seem to have no effect. Though my wife's job was pretty good by Ukraine standards she could easily have made 5-6 times as much here. Even children are not necessarily a "tie" as millions of people come her every year (illegally) and leave children behind to earn money and send it home. Especially if she has family to care for the children. Younger single women from these countries just have a very difficult time to get tourist visas.

Your reasoning of "Hey, look, we are trying to do this correctly" may work. Maybe. If they see a K-1 is being processed and children are still in Poland it would be reasonable to assume she would return, if nothing else for the interview and take her children to the USA on their K-2 visas. Makes sense, but may not work.

I wish you luck, there is certainly nothing wrong with your reasoning and thinking. And no down side to trying, I guess I just am at a loss to say "This will work" because it just isn't that easy. And it is a shame, of course, that so many people do not have the opportunity we do to travel. Yes, we are spoiled and one of the benefits my wife has been looking forward to is being able to get visas to visit other countries now that she is a US resident and many of the reluctant countries will now gladly give her a visa. She considers it one of the very good benefits of being a US resident.