Co-sponsor question

[smokey27 0]

Hi to everyone, I was done my Interview today at Manila Embassy and I did not get an Approval and back my Passport to me, because the consul said that the K1 Visa is not allowed a Co- sponsor. My fiance did not meet the minimum requirement for Poverty line (he only work as a Part time), That's why he used his Father as a Co-sponsor, But the thing is Co-sponsor is not Applicable now to K1 Visa, They did not denied our Petition they just ask the Notorized letter from New employer of my fiance stating his start date salary. Because I told to the Consul that My fiance is looking a for a new job, which Is true, But I know it took a while before you get a new job. Now my question is can my fiance got a 2 jobs even if its both part-time so he can meet the minimum requirement, what is the chances that we denied on this petition if ever we dont provide it, If we denied can we Married and change our Petiton to CR1, and If we get married are we gonna start all over again,,. Sorry to a lot of question I just feel so bad the outcome of my Interview, because on my knowledge and research the co-sponsor is allowed beside we hire a lawyer to file this petition to make sure that the petition are no chances of denial. So I know with all your advice I am more open on what is our next thing that we have to do, Again thank you in advance..

[ladyinpink 1]

Hi to everyone, I was done my Interview today at Manila Embassy and I did not get an Approval and back my Passport to me, because the consul said that the K1 Visa is not allowed a Co- sponsor. My fiance did not meet the minimum requirement for Poverty line (he only work as a Part time), That's why he used his Father as a Co-sponsor, But the thing is Co-sponsor is not Applicable now to K1 Visa, They did not denied our Petition they just ask the Notorized letter from New employer of my fiance stating his start date salary. Because I told to the Consul that My fiance is looking a for a new job, which Is true, But I know it took a while before you get a new job. Now my question is can my fiance got a 2 jobs even if its both part-time so he can meet the minimum requirement, what is the chances that we denied on this petition if ever we dont provide it, If we denied can we Married and change our Petiton to CR1, and If we get married are we gonna start all over again,,. Sorry to a lot of question I just feel so bad the outcome of my Interview, because on my knowledge and research the co-sponsor is allowed beside we hire a lawyer to file this petition to make sure that the petition are no chances of denial. So I know with all your advice I am more open on what is our next thing that we have to do, Again thank you in advance..

i am sorry to hear i hope you find the other solution

just be patient every problem has answer just hold tight

and god bless

[john_and_marlene 162]

Cosponsors are allowed for the CR1/IR1 visa. The I-864 that is used for the immigrant visa is enforceable on a joint sponsor. The I-134 is not enforceable and the USEM gives very little or no weight to the pledge of a cosponsor for support. The consulate may or may not accept a second part-time job in considering the petitioners ability. They are looking for evidence that the income is sustainable--better evidence of sustainable income is a full time permanent job. With regard to nonimmigrant family visas (K visas) they are not bound by any given set of rules and they make their own assessment. With the immigrant visa using the I-864, there are rules dictating specific income amounts and the use of joint sponsors.

[sara..... 371]

Cosponsors are allowed for the CR1/IR1 visa. The I-864 that is used for the immigrant visa is enforceable on a joint sponsor. The I-134 is not enforceable and the USEM gives very little or no weight to the pledge of a cosponsor for support. The consulate may or may not accept a second part-time job in considering the petitioners ability. They are looking for evidence that the income is sustainable--better evidence of sustainable income is a full time permanent job. With regard to nonimmigrant family visas (K visas) they are not bound by any given set of rules and they make their own assessment. With the immigrant visa using the I-864, there are rules dictating specific income amounts and the use of joint sponsors.

omgosh if that is the case im waiting all this time for nothing because im a student and my dad has to give sponsorship for perviz so this means after all this time when he gets to the interview point they are gonna deny him

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. My fiance did not meet the minimum requirement for Poverty line (he only work as a Part time), That's why he used his Father as a Co-sponsor, But the thing is Co-sponsor is not Applicable now to K1 Visa,

Wait, what? Everything I've read so far has indicated that Co-Sponsors *are* fine to use for the I-134 portion of the K-1 process. You're saying that they are not, or you were told they are not?

Here is what the FAQ For the I-134 on this very site says:

"Not having adequate income will not usually be a problem if you have a co-sponsor, according to experiences

posted on the newsgroup, as long as the co-sponsor has adequate income/assets."

Am I missing something, here?

[john_and_marlene 162]

The USEM in this post is not in India

The USEM in this post is not in Croatia

USEM = United States Embassy Manila. The allowance of cosponsors for K visas varies by consulate. The consulate in Manila has often refused them.

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The USEM in this post is not in India

The USEM in this post is not in Croatia

USEM = United States Embassy Manila. The allowance of cosponsors for K visas varies by consulate. The consulate in Manila has often refused them.

Wow, that's really stupid. I'm learning more and more that each consulate can pretty much have whatever whacky standards and practices it wants. What a confusing mess. How is anyone supposed to know what to do? =(

[STEPHnRIA 2]

The USEM in this post is not in India

The USEM in this post is not in Croatia

USEM = United States Embassy Manila. The allowance of cosponsors for K visas varies by consulate. The consulate in Manila has often refused them.

Wow, that's really stupid. I'm learning more and more that each consulate can pretty much have whatever whacky standards and practices it wants. What a confusing mess. How is anyone supposed to know what to do? =(

They send you a packet for instructions or you check out the US Embassy website in your country or better yet, you call the US Embassy in your country to ask.

And another way, you post a question here in VJ.

[smokey27 0]

Hi to everyone, I was done my Interview today at Manila Embassy and I did not get an Approval and back my Passport to me, because the consul said that the K1 Visa is not allowed a Co- sponsor. My fiance did not meet the minimum requirement for Poverty line (he only work as a Part time), That's why he used his Father as a Co-sponsor, But the thing is Co-sponsor is not Applicable now to K1 Visa, They did not denied our Petition they just ask the Notorized letter from New employer of my fiance stating his start date salary. Because I told to the Consul that My fiance is looking a for a new job, which Is true, But I know it took a while before you get a new job. Now my question is can my fiance got a 2 jobs even if its both part-time so he can meet the minimum requirement, what is the chances that we denied on this petition if ever we dont provide it, If we denied can we Married and change our Petiton to CR1, and If we get married are we gonna start all over again,,. Sorry to a lot of question I just feel so bad the outcome of my Interview, because on my knowledge and research the co-sponsor is allowed beside we hire a lawyer to file this petition to make sure that the petition are no chances of denial. So I know with all your advice I am more open on what is our next thing that we have to do, Again thank you in advance..

i am sorry to hear i hope you find the other solution

just be patient every problem has answer just hold tight

and god bless

Thank you for the message.. I was just so worried now I dont know what will be next after this,

[smokey27 0]

Cosponsors are allowed for the CR1/IR1 visa. The I-864 that is used for the immigrant visa is enforceable on a joint sponsor. The I-134 is not enforceable and the USEM gives very little or no weight to the pledge of a cosponsor for support. The consulate may or may not accept a second part-time job in considering the petitioners ability. They are looking for evidence that the income is sustainable--better evidence of sustainable income is a full time permanent job. With regard to nonimmigrant family visas (K visas) they are not bound by any given set of rules and they make their own assessment. With the immigrant visa using the I-864, there are rules dictating specific income amounts and the use of joint sponsors.

Hello thank you for the reply, I just wanna ask what is the difference between K3 and CR1. are they both allowed for co-sponsor, Me and my fiance cant make a decision for now because we are waiting for a reply from our lawyer. Thank you again

[john_and_marlene 162]

Cosponsors are allowed for the CR1/IR1 visa. The I-864 that is used for the immigrant visa is enforceable on a joint sponsor. The I-134 is not enforceable and the USEM gives very little or no weight to the pledge of a cosponsor for support. The consulate may or may not accept a second part-time job in considering the petitioners ability. They are looking for evidence that the income is sustainable--better evidence of sustainable income is a full time permanent job. With regard to nonimmigrant family visas (K visas) they are not bound by any given set of rules and they make their own assessment. With the immigrant visa using the I-864, there are rules dictating specific income amounts and the use of joint sponsors.

Hello thank you for the reply, I just wanna ask what is the difference between K3 and CR1. are they both allowed for co-sponsor, Me and my fiance cant make a decision for now because we are waiting for a reply from our lawyer. Thank you again

The K3 suffers from the same dilema as the K1--it is a nonimmigrant visa and does not use the I-864 for sponsorship. The CR1 is an immigrant visa and does use the I-864. Cosponsors are always allowed with the immigrant visa.

[smokey27 0]

Cosponsors are allowed for the CR1/IR1 visa. The I-864 that is used for the immigrant visa is enforceable on a joint sponsor. The I-134 is not enforceable and the USEM gives very little or no weight to the pledge of a cosponsor for support. The consulate may or may not accept a second part-time job in considering the petitioners ability. They are looking for evidence that the income is sustainable--better evidence of sustainable income is a full time permanent job. With regard to nonimmigrant family visas (K visas) they are not bound by any given set of rules and they make their own assessment. With the immigrant visa using the I-864, there are rules dictating specific income amounts and the use of joint sponsors.

Hello thank you for the reply, I just wanna ask what is the difference between K3 and CR1. are they both allowed for co-sponsor, Me and my fiance cant make a decision for now because we are waiting for a reply from our lawyer. Thank you again

The K3 suffers from the same dilema as the K1--it is a nonimmigrant visa and does not use the I-864 for sponsorship. The CR1 is an immigrant visa and does use the I-864. Cosponsors are always allowed with the immigrant visa.

Thank you again for enlighten me, So if ever we married this year can we file for a CR1 visa or there is a specific date of covered if you file for K3 or CR1 visa, I heard that if your married is less than 2 years then you can filed for CR1 visa what about K3.,

[sara..... 371]

The USEM in this post is not in India

The USEM in this post is not in Croatia

USEM = United States Embassy Manila. The allowance of cosponsors for K visas varies by consulate. The consulate in Manila has often refused them.

i thought the rules and regulations set forth for k1 visa had to apply to ALL embassies.......and i seem to remember someone else that went thru the embassy in manila that had the same problem and got congressman involved and got it taken care of......it just does not seem correct to me that all the information on the web site for the government shows u the information for all K1 visa's and a embassy is allowed to set their own rules.......that would mean that any embassy that didnt feel like giving the visa could adjust any of the rules and regulations to fit so that they could deny the visa

Edited November 3, 2008 by estadia

[KimandRuss 0]

It's important to reiterate the fact above that the I134 has no real set standards. Most Consulates use the guidelines set by the I-864 that needs to be filed at adjustment once you're in the states, but some do not.

Manilla is well known for not allowing co-sponsorship as are many other higher fraud Consulates. The Embassy in New Zealand cared very little about the I-134 and more about the beneficiaries work history, education and ability to work once in the U.S. The point is, each Embassy is very different which is why it's of utmost importance to educate yourself to the process with special consideration for the Embassy you will be dealing with.

You file the I864 which has legal guidelines when you are filing for a spousal CR1 (immigrant) visa. You are married, not engaged. Same reason you can file an expedite for hardship when you are petitioning a spouse... not a fiance.

[sara..... 371]

It's important to reiterate the fact above that the I134 has no real set standards. Most Consulates use the guidelines set by the I-864 that needs to be filed at adjustment once you're in the states, but some do not.

Manilla is well known for not allowing co-sponsorship as are many other higher fraud Consulates. The Embassy in New Zealand cared very little about the I-134 and more about the beneficiaries work history, education and ability to work once in the U.S. The point is, each Embassy is very different which is why it's of utmost importance to educate yourself to the process with special consideration for the Embassy you will be dealing with.

You file the I864 which has legal guidelines when you are filing for a spousal CR1 (immigrant) visa. You are married, not engaged. Same reason you can file an expedite for hardship when you are petitioning a spouse... not a fiance.

kim i understand to a point what ur saying but the guide lines for k1 allow for it so im having a hard time understanding how and embassy can legally take that stand.....we have been waiting so long and for God sake if they use that excuse with perviz when he has the interview i dont know what i will do......it seems that the site for the government does not cover all the bases......it leads people to think that if u dont have enough income for k1 that u are allowed to use a co or joint sponsor to meet the amount of income set