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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

Obama quits church, citing controversies

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama said Saturday that he has resigned from the church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created political headaches for his campaign.

Sen. Barack Obama said he was resigning from the church "with some sadness."

"We don't want to have to answer for everything that's stated in the church," the Democratic front-runner said. "We also don't want the church subjected to the scrutiny that a presidential campaign legitimately undergoes."

Obama said he was resigning "with some sadness."

"This is not a decision I come to lightly," he said.

The resignation comes days after the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a visiting Catholic priest, mocked Obama's Democratic rival during a sermon at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.

In the sermon, Pfleger wipes his eyes with a handkerchief and suggests that Sen. Hillary Clinton wept because she thought that as a white person and the wife of a former president, she was entitled to the presidency.

Pfleger is a Catholic priest at St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church on Chicago's southwest side. He is also a friend of Trinity's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, from whom Obama distanced himself in April. Watch Pfleger mock Clinton »

Obama said the Pfleger controversy made it clear that, as long as he remained a member of the Trinity congregation, remarks from the pulpit would be "imputed" to him, even if they conflicted with his personal views.

Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, began discussing a departure from the church after Wright spoke at the National Press Club on April 28.

During the appearance, Wright said that Obama had "distanced" himself the fiery pastor for political reasons.

Wright, Obama's minister for about 20 years, drew unwanted attention for the campaign when videos of his fiery sermons surfaced.

In the speeches, Wright suggested that the U.S. government may be responsible for the spread of AIDS in the black community and equated some American wartime activities to terrorism.

Obama has said he was not present for the controversial sermons by Wright or Pfleger.

His campaign condemned Pfleger's comments.

"That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause," he said in a statement Thursday.

Obama said he and his wife had discussed and prayed on the issue with Trinity's senior pastor, the Rev. Otis Moss, and hoped that the decision would withdraw Trinity from the spotlight.

"Though we are saddened by the news, we understand that it is a personal decision," Moss said in a statement Saturday. "We will continue to lift them in prayer and wish them the best as former members of our Trinity community,"

Some Obama supporters, including U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler of Florida, said that disconnecting from the church signaled a chance for the campaign to move on.

"I think it bodes well for us in the general election that we can put whatever issues there were behind us in respect to the church," Wexler said.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

Wow, you carry quite a wide brush to paint anyone who disagrees with you.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

Wow, you carry quite a wide brush to paint anyone who disagrees with you.

Whatever happened to your expressed party loyalty? Oh, I forgot, you're camp Hillary. Where you declare abiding by one set of rules and stick with that declaration only if it means you're ahead. f not, then you take the "I don't care about the garbage I declared yesterday" stance. Which is why nobody trusts your campaign or your candidate. And which is why she didn't make it.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

Wow, you carry quite a wide brush to paint anyone who disagrees with you.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

I just don't fully understand where you are coming knowing that you are a democrat. You support Sen. Clinton, which is great. Sen. Clinton actually has more substance than Sen. Obama and would be an excellent opponent for Sen. McCain. However, your intense support for Sen. Clinton and constant attack of Sen. Obama falls right in line with some hard-core conservative republicans who are working feverishly to tear him down. It just doesn't appear that you are a party loyalist, and that's where I'm coming from...

My bad... You know that I have love for you.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

Wow, you carry quite a wide brush to paint anyone who disagrees with you.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

I just don't fully understand where you are coming knowing that you are a democrat. You support Sen. Clinton, which is great. Sen. Clinton actually has more substance than Sen. Obama and would be an excellent opponent for Sen. McCain. However, your intense support for Sen. Clinton and constant attack of Sen. Obama falls right in line with some hard-core conservative republicans who are working feverishly to tear him down. It just doesn't appear that you are a party loyalist, and that's where I'm coming from...

My bad... You know that I have love for you.

Cheers...

Sheriff Uling

What a nice reply to an out in left field response. I don't understand the need to be so vitrolic.

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Heck...

I support Obama and yet am prepared to give Clinton my vote if it came to that, to be honest.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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This guy is so pathetic!!! He thinks quitting a controversial church, after TWENTY YEARS AS A MEMEBR erases all the bad? :rolleyes:

If I were a sane man, I would think you were one of those crazed conservative republicans spitting out venom towards Sen. Obama at every turn, but you are a democrat. Honestly, I can't tell who is worse with Sen. Obama postings you or Kuya Gary. At least, I can completely relate to why Kuya Gary has hearburn over Sen. Obama's ultra liberal views and minimal track record in the senate.

Wow, you carry quite a wide brush to paint anyone who disagrees with you.

I'm not disagreeing with you.

I just don't fully understand where you are coming knowing that you are a democrat. You support Sen. Clinton, which is great. Sen. Clinton actually has more substance than Sen. Obama and would be an excellent opponent for Sen. McCain. However, your intense support for Sen. Clinton and constant attack of Sen. Obama falls right in line with some hard-core conservative republicans who are working feverishly to tear him down. It just doesn't appear that you are a party loyalist, and that's where I'm coming from...

My bad... You know that I have love for you.

Cheers...

Sheriff Uling

What a nice reply to an out in left field response. I don't understand the need to be so vitrolic.

I understand where my girl Illumine is coming from, and, by the by, she was not being vitrolic...

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Heck...

I support Obama and yet am prepared to give Clinton my vote if it came to that, to be honest.

I am also ready give hillary my vote if she wins, I think that beyond obama or hillary, we need to make sure Bush's plush doll does not move in to the white house!

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illumine What do you think???

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I don't see the vitriol.

I saw it more of Uling questioned her motives for posting anti-obama threads (a legitimate question with party lines, but I suppose not out of charater for this election)

The response to me, seemed like a slap in the face and not answering the question at all. Being that Uling is a pretty upstanding guy and a friend - I thought the statement was rude.

In case I should have put some knd of disclaimer - this wasn't a *mod* statement. I was just posting my opinion. In the end - it really is a nonissue.

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