Work not accepting 2yrGC/10yrNOA1 as proof of employment auth

[kyleers 0]

Hey, if anyone has a little advice for us we'd appreciate it!

My husband's work has had a copy of his EAD that expired like... last year. And hasn't said anything about needing other documentation. But they finally got around to it, and are asking for new documentation of employment authorization.

So he brought his 2-year GC (expiring next month) and his NOA1 extending it a year to HR. I guess they only made a copy of the NOA1 and not his 2-year GC (hmm). So the HR lady called today and said that the NOA1 is not on their list of documentation they can accept for work authorization (no kidding). I explained to her about the 2-year green card and its extension by the NOA1. And she said, "oh, I guess we don't have a copy of the green card." Just the NOA1, so that's what she's basing the entire conversation off of. So she's now calling corporate to see if they will accept the 2-year GC and its extension letter. I told her if USCIS came to her company and said, "Show us your documents," that would be fine legal paperwork for him to be working. I also told her that he was able to get his driver's license renewed using that letter.

So anyhow, I am guessing once they figure out that he's trying to say it's his legal permanent resident card that's permitting him to work, and not just the NOA1 that they've never heard of, they'll be fine with it. But if not, I have two ideas. One is, is their some USCIS.gov website document that explains to employers that the 2year GC and NOA1 are acceptable? Alternatively, if that doesn't work, I vaguely recall mention of possibly doing an InfoPass appointment to perhaps get a stamp in the passport to renew a year. What is that called? I have a feeling that would tick USCIS off because they have already given him an NOA1 that he SHOULD be able to use, but blame it on his immigrations-ignorant employer, not us.

Thank you!

Edited April 28, 2008 by kyleers

[Kez/JWolf 6]

All he needs to show his emplyers is a unrestricted SSN card and his state ID.... the NOA1 is not listed on the I-9 form so his employer is not likely to accept that....

If your husband did not get the restriction removed of his SSN when he got his greencard then he may need to go to his local USCIS and request a I-551 stamp to show he is still athorized to work...

Kez/Jwolf

[eau_xplain 2]

Yes, you'll probably need to get an I-551 stamp on your husband's passport especially since his employer never got a copy of his 2yr green card in the first place.

Does your husband already have an unrestricted SS card? That and a valid DL are included in the list of documents that can be presented to an employer. By presenting an unrestricted SS card, the employer will not be looking for any proof of work authorization from DHS.

[kmineo 0]

Funny they won't take that evidence. Actually reading another thread I found out the employeer shouldn't have to reverify a green card even if it does expire. Not really sure how this works because the employer is also responsible for not employing illegals. But I think they can get into trouble if they do ask for reverification of your green card. So it is quit funny that they are asking for more than that. Can't find the post at the moment but here is the link somene posted http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/m-274.pdf . Actually found it now here it is http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1759276

[kyleers 0]

All he needs to show his emplyers is a unrestricted SSN card and his state ID.... the NOA1 is not listed on the I-9 form so his employer is not likely to accept that....

If your husband did not get the restriction removed of his SSN when he got his greencard then he may need to go to his local USCIS and request a I-551 stamp to show he is still athorized to work...

Kez/Jwolf

Hmm, no I didn't realize that he was supposed to get his restriction removed from his SSN. For some reason I guess it assumed it would be at the 10 year green card.

Do you suppose if he went down to SS tomorrow they'd remove it and send him a new one? I doubt it would get here before his card expires (in like a week) though. But they usually give a receipt of some sort I think.

We're waiting for the HR dept of his work to call back, and then hopefully they'll be fine with the 2 year green card and NOA1 and this won't even be an issue.

Thanks for your feedback everyone.

[eau_xplain 2]

There's no harm in trying to get a new SS card without the restrictions. Just make sure he does not give us his old SS card (they cannot take it from him if he doesn't want to give it up) in case the new card is delayed.

[ihateemo 0]

I had no problem with my employer showing my expired green card and NOA extension.

[Euro 3]

I had no problem with my employer showing my expired green card and NOA extension.

But the key here is the SS Card , unrestricted or restricted?

Handbook for Employers

http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/m-274.pdf

Edited April 29, 2008 by Euro

[ihateemo 0]

Mine still has that "Valid for work only with DHS authorization" nonsense stamped on it and I've never had a problem.

Expired card + NOA extension (that would be the DHS authorisation in this case) + SS# = valid for work.

Sounds like the HR people need to get a clue.

[Kelvin 0]

My wife just got a new job with her GC that expires in July and the NOA1 extension letter. Her SS card also has the restriction on it and her maiden name. She had no problem with the company because they had seen that before. In fact, the manager that hired her had the same thing an one point. We figure we'll go get her new SS card once we receive the 10 year GC.

KZ

[JVKn'CVO 11]

On page four of the I-9 you have the list of acceptable documents to prove employment eligibility

USCIS I-9

Try to see if at the SSA office they will accept the green card and extension letter to issue an unrestricted SSN card, I think that's your best bet

Good Luck!

Saludos,

Caro

[NickD 202]

It took me over two hours to explain to my wife's employer legal department why her two year PERMANENT conditional PERMANENT resident card was expired. Did bring in the one year extension notice as well, that I-797c receipt we got a couple of weeks after making the application. When she first got that card, I did make a trip to our nearest SS office and got a new card with all restrictions removed, that didn't make any difference.

The think is, people outside of the USCIS do not understand an expired green card. Bringing in the I-751 application didn't help either, our copy, plus the canceled check, plus, yes, I was shocked too after all that expense to get that first green card that it was only good for two years as we were not married quite yet two years yet. Legal department read the application where you should allow 90 days for processing, we allowed exactly 90 days.

I finally went home and printed off a bunch of stuff from the web where these applications were taking 18-24 months, plus her case status, and even suggested they call the USCIS if they have a couple of hours to spare waiting for an officer. They finally accepted that, two weeks ago, she finally received her new ten year green card and took care of that herself, only took 15 seconds as people do know how to read an expiration date, though I don't know why they are only using a two digit year and everyone else is using a four digit year. Ha, surprised they didn't question her on that, is this 1918? Your card is expired. Or maybe 1718, man, it's really expired.

If this wasn't enough neither does our DMV understand an expired green card even with the extension notice, she was rejected for her driver's license renewal. I contacted our governor, took over a week of faxing stuff back and forth before our governor finally called our local DMV department and told them to renew her license, another pure pain in the ###.

We didn't have too much to add to our I-751 evidence, she was working under the EAD and for our original application could send in a joint tax return, but with the APA couldn't really add her to my savings and checking accounts, but could get her a credit card. Could do that after she got her green card, so an additional IRS tax return, her name on my savings and checking is all the additional information we could provide. I did put her name on my property with a quit claim deed, no law against that. This whole I-751 is redundant and difficult, but wouldn't be bad if they kept to their published schedule. We already sent in the N-400, perhaps then, all this will be history.

Least the USCIS can do is too issue a new temporary card with an unexpired date on it if they want to play around. Still wonder how many bad guys were caught with this I-751 process, but we are all guilty until we prove ourselves innocent. And this does not apply to my wife, it applies to me as I am the USA citizen that brought her into this country, and if any wrong doing was done, I would pay the fine and go to jail. Wife would be sent home. So they are fooling around with a US citizen and a veteran of a foreign war at that. Not right.

[russian_armenian 4]

Somehow, I thought that even born here citizens have to show birth cert or passport in such strict HR dept. I-751 could be denied which means that permanent resident status is terminated. Many people could have unrestricted SS and drivers lisence for next 4-5 years. I remember there is been a list of all forms (on SS web) which HR should accept as proof of authorization to work. Personally, I would get I-551 stamp.

All he needs to show his emplyers is a unrestricted SSN card and his state ID.... the NOA1 is not listed on the I-9 form so his employer is not likely to accept that....

If your husband did not get the restriction removed of his SSN when he got his greencard then he may need to go to his local USCIS and request a I-551 stamp to show he is still athorized to work...

Kez/Jwolf

[JoeCanuk 3]

Does being a veteran of a foreign war entitle you to be exempt from all the bs?

[andaiuly 0]

Iwent last week to change my SS card, and bc, my Gc is exp in a month they did not changed my SS card, they told me that the GC need to be valid at list for 2 months.My passport is already exp, and Ididn't recive my extension letter,so I can't get my stamp.