Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

[GaryC 7]

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monit...rticle10866.htm

[Dan J 277]

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monit...rticle10866.htm

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out nearly all the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monit...rticle10866.htm

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

I see, global cooling is a blip but global warming is a fact? If global warming was a fact there wouldnt be any arguments about it.

Edited February 27, 2008 by CarolsMarc

[GaryC 7]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

Edited February 27, 2008 by GaryC

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Good thing we just bought an SUV. Gotta do our part to fight this cooling trend.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

I'm not even sure 5-6 years amounts to a "pattern"

[GaryC 7]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

I'm not even sure 5-6 years amounts to a "pattern"

It certainly doesn't fit with the idea of man-made global warming. I always thought, correct me if I am wrong, that the planet was heating up because of all the CO2 we put in the air. The higher the level the more the warming. Well, the CO2 levels have been going up but the temps have leveled off and MAY be coming down. Something just doesn't fit, no?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

I'm not even sure 5-6 years amounts to a "pattern"

It certainly doesn't fit with the idea of man-made global warming. I always thought, correct me if I am wrong, that the planet was heating up because of all the CO2 we put in the air. The higher the level the more the warming. Well, the CO2 levels have been going up but the temps have leveled off and MAY be coming down. Something just doesn't fit, no?

Where do you think the emitted CO2 goes? Out of curiosity

[GaryC 7]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

I'm not even sure 5-6 years amounts to a "pattern"

It certainly doesn't fit with the idea of man-made global warming. I always thought, correct me if I am wrong, that the planet was heating up because of all the CO2 we put in the air. The higher the level the more the warming. Well, the CO2 levels have been going up but the temps have leveled off and MAY be coming down. Something just doesn't fit, no?

Where do you think the emitted CO2 goes? Out of curiosity

It's in the air of course. But I think the idea of our CO2 causing a greenhouse effect is wrong. I have seen plenty of stories that indicate CO2 is a lagging indicator behind temps and not the cause of rising temps.

Be that as it may, if the theory of man-made global warming is correct then the temps should rise as the levels go up. Right? So why isn't that happening? Remember that in the 60's and 70's the temps went down so much the scientists were calling for a new ice age. We may be seeing that trend again. I submitt that CO2 has very little to do with global temps and the sun cycles are what is driving our tempurature changes.

[HAL 9000 96]

If this continues for 5 or more years, then you have a pattern. Otherwise its just a little blip.

Add to it that the world temps have been steady for the last 6 years and you already have a pattern. The warming has stopped. I am not yet saying that we are cooling yet but I am saying the warming has stopped.

I'm not even sure 5-6 years amounts to a "pattern"

It certainly doesn't fit with the idea of man-made global warming. I always thought, correct me if I am wrong, that the planet was heating up because of all the CO2 we put in the air. The higher the level the more the warming. Well, the CO2 levels have been going up but the temps have leveled off and MAY be coming down. Something just doesn't fit, no?

Hi Gary, synthesizing several threads into one:

I don't believe global warming is solely to be pinned on one particular greenhouse gas. There are other factors to consider like temperature homeostasis based on geographical weather patterning (think La Nina, El Nino, etc). When we undercut less than ten years of weather data by using real-time data such as a current drop in weather temperature and compare it to a patterned climate of temperature we're in effect comparing two different things.

Weather is by definition the conditions in effect or in force in a particular geographical area at a given time. Climate is the weather pattern over time in a given geographical area.

One cannot counteract a climatic pattern with an instantaneous weather shift unless one has proof the weather shift is permanent to the tune of it actually creating a shifted climate pattern. Global warming is a climate pattern, not a weather pattern, although we will feel the weather pattern in the future once we compare it to the weather pattern we once felt in the past.

Hope Luz is doing much better.

Reinhard-

I too, shockingly, am considering an SUV-type car to avoid the potholes in Chicago. Lower cars are a pain in the neck when it comes to those. Maybe I can keep my fuel-friendly car for warm weather use and get a bigger setup for cold, nasty weather.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm sure its all connected and more complex than the news reporting of climate research would give credit for.

I'm already looking at another set of temperature variation graphs which look rather less ambiguous than the one you posted. I'm just wondering how you, or I, can claim with any degree of certainty that we know, for sure, what we're looking at?

[HAL 9000 96]

Actually, here's a bit of elementary chemistry:

CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3 (carbonic acid)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually, here's a bit of elementary chemistry:

CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3 (carbonic acid)

Ocean acidity?

[MaRob 0]

we just had a 90 year record high for February down here in Texas... as in it was this hot 90 years ago in 1919 when they didn't have cars

i kind of think about it like a huge cycle, so big that they haven't recorded all of it yet...

like the water cycle.. if it took a long time for water to condensate and precipitate, people would be freaking out because all of our water is evaporating and disappearing!! OMG!!

Edited February 27, 2008 by MaRob

[GaryC 7]

Hi Gary, synthesizing several threads into one:

I don't believe global warming is solely to be pinned on one particular greenhouse gas. There are other factors to consider like temperature homeostasis based on geographical weather patterning (think La Nina, El Nino, etc). When we undercut less than ten years of weather data by using real-time data such as a current drop in weather temperature and compare it to a patterned climate of temperature we're in effect comparing two different things.

Weather is by definition the conditions in effect or in force in a particular geographical area at a given time. Climate is the weather pattern over time in a given geographical area.

One cannot counteract a climatic pattern with an instantaneous weather shift unless one has proof the weather shift is permanent to the tune of it actually creating a shifted climate pattern. Global warming is a climate pattern, not a weather pattern, although we will feel the weather pattern in the future once we compare it to the weather pattern we once felt in the past.

Hope Luz is doing much better.

Reinhard-

I too, shockingly, am considering an SUV-type car to avoid the potholes in Chicago. Lower cars are a pain in the neck when it comes to those. Maybe I can keep my fuel-friendly car for warm weather use and get a bigger setup for cold, nasty weather.

To be sure I am not saying that this one year makes a "proof" for anything. I do however, say that the pattern since 1998 has been one of stable temps. After 10 years it does point at a pattern. I also would like to point out that if you overlay the temps for the last 100 years over graphs of CO2 and solar patterns the temps line up for the solar patterns much better.

And thank you, Luz is much better now. She is very excited about our move into our new house this weekend.