Loving African male - Off Topic (Split thread)

[Enlighten one :) 5]

This topic got me real excited, because I love to read. I thought this would be a wonderful forum and still do, but after viewing "Oil King" Pete's book cover it really turned me off. Starting with the diamond earrings and sunglasses. The shiny suit I could of chalked up to poor taste, if it was not combined with the diamond earrings and glasses.

He does not have a degree in Anthropology. I would be interested to know how many tribes or American and African relationships did he immerse himself to come to these conclusions. Who did he reference? What studies did he reference? Who did he quote? I would be more interested in looking up that information.

If these are his opinions, then that is all they are His reality, his perspectives.

Pete "OIL KING" Agbo is the CEO of Coal City Entertainment. The CEO of his own self proclaimed company. I guess that makes me a CEO, because I own my own business. Have you visited the link to Coal City Entertainment? Do You know how many people claim to be CEOs f there own business through out the US, but mostly reside in the Boston, NY, and California area?

This is one of the quotes on his page

"By buying a Coal City Entertainment product, you join one of the largest and most active Music & Film communities in the world. As a member, you'll receive the following:" I will give him credit for taking personal phones calls and emails considering he has the "largest and most active Music & Film Communities in the world."

He has two products and A couple of rap star want-to-be"s clients. Do you really believe he is one of the largest most active Music and Film Communities in the world?

If you realize this statement is embellished, how can you trust the rest of the book? Kudos on his accomplishments or should I say his claimed accomplishments.

Let me know if you come across a book with some depth and resourcefulness. Right now I will stick with the BIBLE to guide me through my marriage.

You can visit this website for some wonderful advice on a successfully marriages.

http://davidoyedepoministries.org/?christi...:family_success

http://www.coalcityentertainment.com/

[Zee Bee 61]

This topic got me real excited, because I love to read. I thought this would be a wonderful forum and still do, but after viewing "Oil King" Pete's book cover it really turned me off. Starting with the diamond earrings and sunglasses. The shiny suit I could of chalked up to poor taste, if it was not combined with the diamond earrings and glasses.

He does not have a degree in Anthropology. I would be interested to know how many tribes or American and African relationships did he immerse himself to come to these conclusions. Who did he reference? What studies did he reference? Who did he quote? I would be more interested in looking up that information.

If these are his opinions, then that is all they are His reality, his perspectives.

Pete "OIL KING" Agbo is the CEO of Coal City Entertainment. The CEO of his own self proclaimed company. I guess that makes me a CEO, because I own my own business. Have you visited the link to Coal City Entertainment? Do You know how many people claim to be CEOs f there own business through out the US, but mostly reside in the Boston, NY, and California area?

This is one of the quotes on his page

"By buying a Coal City Entertainment product, you join one of the largest and most active Music & Film communities in the world. As a member, you'll receive the following:" I will give him credit for taking personal phones calls and emails considering he has the "largest and most active Music & Film Communities in the world."

He has two products and A couple of rap star want-to-be"s clients. Do you really believe he is one of the largest most active Music and Film Communities in the world?

If you realize this statement is embellished, how can you trust the rest of the book? Kudos on his accomplishments or should I say his claimed accomplishments.

Let me know if you come across a book with some depth and resourcefulness. Right now I will stick with the BIBLE to guide me through my marriage.

You can visit this website for some wonderful advice on a successfully marriages.

http://davidoyedepoministries.org/?christi...:family_success

http://www.coalcityentertainment.com/

You may not find the book useful but have you read it? I find it presumptuous of you to make assumptions about this book seeing as how it has helped a lot of other women understand their SOs.

I don't have a degree in Anthropology but I have a lot of insight on this topic because I spent a lot of my life living in Ghana. I come from a different side of the equation because of this and I still have some questions about why my fiance does what he does.

How many threads on here have we asked for male SOs from Africa to chime in on what they think?

How many people have found the words of Francis to help them understand their husbands?

People learn in different ways and find different methods useful. While this book may not be an anthology of male African culture, it is the African culture from a male perspective (something none of us have) and even a little knowledge in this area will be eye opening for all of us. I'm not sure how many books are available on this topic but something tells me not many.

For me, the fact that he is from Africa gives him the ethos to write a book about this topic. You don't need to be an expert to have an opinion.

There is no need for you to come on here and condemn the man because you may not see any value in it. No one asked you to buy the book.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

This topic got me real excited, because I love to read. I thought this would be a wonderful forum and still do, but after viewing "Oil King" Pete's book cover it really turned me off. Starting with the diamond earrings and sunglasses. The shiny suit I could of chalked up to poor taste, if it was not combined with the diamond earrings and glasses.

He does not have a degree in Anthropology. I would be interested to know how many tribes or American and African relationships did he immerse himself to come to these conclusions. Who did he reference? What studies did he reference? Who did he quote? I would be more interested in looking up that information.

If these are his opinions, then that is all they are His reality, his perspectives.

Pete "OIL KING" Agbo is the CEO of Coal City Entertainment. The CEO of his own self proclaimed company. I guess that makes me a CEO, because I own my own business. Have you visited the link to Coal City Entertainment? Do You know how many people claim to be CEOs f there own business through out the US, but mostly reside in the Boston, NY, and California area?

This is one of the quotes on his page

"By buying a Coal City Entertainment product, you join one of the largest and most active Music & Film communities in the world. As a member, you'll receive the following:" I will give him credit for taking personal phones calls and emails considering he has the "largest and most active Music & Film Communities in the world."

He has two products and A couple of rap star want-to-be"s clients. Do you really believe he is one of the largest most active Music and Film Communities in the world?

If you realize this statement is embellished, how can you trust the rest of the book? Kudos on his accomplishments or should I say his claimed accomplishments.

Let me know if you come across a book with some depth and resourcefulness. Right now I will stick with the BIBLE to guide me through my marriage.

You can visit this website for some wonderful advice on a successfully marriages.

http://davidoyedepoministries.org/?christi...:family_success

http://www.coalcityentertainment.com/

You may not find the book useful but have you read it? I find it presumptuous of you to make assumptions about this book seeing as how it has helped a lot of other women understand their SOs.

I don't have a degree in Anthropology but I have a lot of insight on this topic because I spent a lot of my life living in Ghana. I come from a different side of the equation because of this and I still have some questions about why my fiance does what he does.

How many threads on here have we asked for male SOs from Africa to chime in on what they think?

How many people have found the words of Francis to help them understand their husbands?

People learn in different ways and find different methods useful. While this book may not be an anthology of male African culture, it is the African culture from a male perspective (something none of us have) and even a little knowledge in this area will be eye opening for all of us. I'm not sure how many books are available on this topic but something tells me not many.

For me, the fact that he is from Africa gives him the ethos to write a book about this topic. You don't need to be an expert to have an opinion.

There is no need for you to come on here and condemn the man because you may not see any value in it. No one asked you to buy the book.

I did not say that anyone asked me to purchase the book. I did not say anyone else should not purchase the book.

I gave my opinion on the embellished statements he made on his website. His attachment to materialist items and "status" draws me to interpret that he is "ego" driven.

I did not say the book would not be good because he did not have a degree in Anthropology. Meaning when you decide if a book is worth reading and spending money i determine what qualifies him to right a subject. If it is his own expereience, to me that is not enough experiences.

Let me phrase this better Anthropology or has he done research, quoted research, immersed himself in other American and African relationships. Were the statements I meant to convey. Which lead to me believes that this is from his perspective & his reality.

Because of his book cover and web page, I know this gentleman has nothing to tell me about my husband or his beliefs, values, and culture.

Every women here who is considering to marry some from a different culture/tribe should know their SO culture’s beliefs, rituals, and celebrations. Then you get to know them better through interaction and communication, which can never prepare you for living with them.

I did not deny that the book might have helped people have a better understanding. From some of the stories I have heard here some women are getting cultural difference confused with character difference.

Oh because my opionion is not the same as yours I should not have one? My communication was not referenced to anyone who has read the book, who has not, who is going to, or what they think of the book.

They are my opinions on what I discovered in my excitement to purchase the book to participate in this forum. But when I did further research on the fellow, I was turned of by what I found.

I was only pointing out MY discoveries not anyone elses.

Oh, I am so glad that I posted something that initated some communication between you and I Zeenusah. Too bad it was negative.

[Zee Bee 61]

I did not say that anyone asked me to purchase the book. I did not say anyone else should not purchase the book.

I gave my opinion on the embellished statements he made on his website. His attachment to materialist items and "status" draws me to interpret that he is "ego" driven.

I did not say the book would not be good because he did not have a degree in Anthropology. Meaning when you decide if a book is worth reading and spending money i determine what qualifies him to right a subject. If it is his own expereience, to me that is not enough experiences.

Let me phrase this better Anthropology or has he done research, quoted research, immersed himself in other American and African relationships. Were the statements I meant to convey. Which lead to me believes that this is from his perspective & his reality.

Because of his book cover and web page, I know this gentleman has nothing to tell me about my husband or his beliefs, values, and culture.

Every women here who is considering to marry some from a different culture/tribe should know their SO culture's beliefs, rituals, and celebrations. Then you get to know them better through interaction and communication, which can never prepare you for living with them.

I did not deny that the book might have helped people have a better understanding. From some of the stories I have heard here some women are getting cultural difference confused with character difference.

Oh because my opionion is not the same as yours I should not have one? My communication was not referenced to anyone who has read the book, who has not, who is going to, or what they think of the book.

They are my opinions on what I discovered in my excitement to purchase the book to participate in this forum. But when I did further research on the fellow, I was turned of by what I found.

I was only pointing out MY discoveries not anyone elses.

Oh, I am so glad that I posted something that initated some communication between you and I Zeenusah. Too bad it was negative.

Don't judge a book by its cover

When it comes to issues of culture, the best experience is living it. I don't think that you necessarily need to go doing research to make a valid point, but if I see a book by someone who went out and did 5 years of research vs someone who lived the life, I am going to go for the person who lived the life every time. Just MHO.

The book is not just about marriage. Its about cultural differences and how to deal with them, at least that is what I got from the small synopsis I have read. Someone who has read the whole book can comment better. I don't think that it is the only book a lot of people will use here to help in their marriages, but it sure can't hurt.

If you had read the book and came on here saying "X, Y, Z is not true", that is different from forming your opinions about what you saw on his website. As for his business and personal accomplishments, I don't know and not my problem.

The fact that these are statements from his own reality, I think, is a good thing. Better than talking in hypotheticals in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that.

And I didn't say you should not have an opinion. Far be it for me to tell people what they can and cannot say.

As for the initiating the communication....confused.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

I just do not find his experience, embellishment, his character, and his style of writing and appearance worthy of $18 or my time.

I think is CEO claim denotes his view on "status". Diamond earrings when his Nigerian people as a whole are struggling. I find it disgusting.

Again those are my requirement for spending money and time reading books ..not yours. I am always looking for inspiration and growth spiritually.

I do not read fiction books. That is my choice. Doesn't mean people cannot find value in that. This doesn't mean that I will not discover a book that had met my requirement to be garbage.

I do not find his experience of hanging out in clubs with half naked women good experiences of cultural difference.

Edited January 9, 2008 by MrsJibowu

[Bassi and Zainab 1]

This topic got me real excited, because I love to read. I thought this would be a wonderful forum and still do, but after viewing "Oil King" Pete's book cover it really turned me off. Starting with the diamond earrings and sunglasses. The shiny suit I could of chalked up to poor taste, if it was not combined with the diamond earrings and glasses.

He does not have a degree in Anthropology. I would be interested to know how many tribes or American and African relationships did he immerse himself to come to these conclusions. Who did he reference? What studies did he reference? Who did he quote? I would be more interested in looking up that information.

If these are his opinions, then that is all they are His reality, his perspectives.

Pete "OIL KING" Agbo is the CEO of Coal City Entertainment. The CEO of his own self proclaimed company. I guess that makes me a CEO, because I own my own business. Have you visited the link to Coal City Entertainment? Do You know how many people claim to be CEOs f there own business through out the US, but mostly reside in the Boston, NY, and California area?

This is one of the quotes on his page

"By buying a Coal City Entertainment product, you join one of the largest and most active Music & Film communities in the world. As a member, you'll receive the following:" I will give him credit for taking personal phones calls and emails considering he has the "largest and most active Music & Film Communities in the world."

He has two products and A couple of rap star want-to-be"s clients. Do you really believe he is one of the largest most active Music and Film Communities in the world?

If you realize this statement is embellished, how can you trust the rest of the book? Kudos on his accomplishments or should I say his claimed accomplishments.

Let me know if you come across a book with some depth and resourcefulness. Right now I will stick with the BIBLE to guide me through my marriage.

You can visit this website for some wonderful advice on a successfully marriages.

http://davidoyedepoministries.org/?christi...:family_success

http://www.coalcityentertainment.com/

You appear to be passing judgement superficially since you haven't read the book and you haven't cited any reviews of the book either. If you are choosing not to read the book just on the face of it for personal reasons that's obviously fine. It's a free world. But why share it with such vehemance? Remember that Jesus wasn't "qualified" for his job either....but people think he did a decent job.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

I guess I just made the assumption that this book would be something with more substance because Oboma comes accross as a very worldy inteligent women. So when reading the first post I had a different view (I made the assumption) of what the book would consist of.

Now if she stated it was funny look at one person's perspective on African male with American women.

So visiting that site just drew such a contrast for me.

Yes, I do have a problem with people walking around with shades on at night or inside. I do not think it is fashionalbe, I think they have something to hide. I do not like people running around full of diamonds when people are starving, homeless, or sick without medicaiton.

He has a stance of errogance on his website.

Oh but status means nothing to this man.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

You appear to be passing judgement superficially since you haven't read the book and you haven't cited any reviews of the book either. If you are choosing not to read the book just on the face of it for personal reasons that's obviously fine. It's a free world. But why share it with such vehemance? Remember that Jesus wasn't "qualified" for his job either....but people think he did a decent job.

I am explaining why I am not going to get the book and my opinion of the author’s appearance and site which lead me to that conclusion. I did not say the book was bad or good? Vehemence? When did sharing a perspective become termed as "vehemence". Please elaborate? I do not have intense feelings for my perspective. I am not forcing my opinions on you. I am not trying to influence anyone with my opinion. I did not address one person in my opinion or on their opinions.

I take my perspective as just that.

I have a right to my opinion, from perspective, from reality.

I am not where I need to be, but I thank GOD I am not where I was.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

Diamonds...

I do not think a single African should wear a diamond that was purchased in the US. Thousands have died, been crippled, and left homeless over diamond trade in West Africa. Just like oil, their community is not better for the riches their land bears.

How can he sit there with that diamond necklace around his neck.

Oh wait here come the vehemence. My first post did not, but as you make think deeper out comes my passion for humanity. I will never support people who do not support their community and their people.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

I thought the subject was about the book by Pete Agbo, not character assassination. Read the book, give your insight. Not why you won't purchase the book.

Is this the right post? If not, I am sorry. If so, let's discuss the book, his directions for American women, etc.

If it don't fit don't force it.

Yes, you should get back to the book. Enjoy!

[Bassi and Zainab 1]

You appear to be passing judgement superficially since you haven't read the book and you haven't cited any reviews of the book either. If you are choosing not to read the book just on the face of it for personal reasons that's obviously fine. It's a free world. But why share it with such vehemance? Remember that Jesus wasn't "qualified" for his job either....but people think he did a decent job.

I am explaining why I am not going to get the book and my opinion of the author’s appearance and site which lead me to that conclusion. I did not say the book was bad or good? Vehemence? When did sharing a perspective become termed as "vehemence". Please elaborate? I do not have intense feelings for my perspective. I am not forcing my opinions on you. I am not trying to influence anyone with my opinion. I did not address one person in my opinion or on their opinions.

I take my perspective as just that.

I have a right to my opinion, from perspective, from reality.

I am not where I need to be, but I thank GOD I am not where I was.

Okay, I will elaborate and then I'll be done.

Omoba posted saying

We are discussing this book and if anyone else is interested please join in.

You then posted a lengthy response judging information on the author's website, the picture on the cover of the author's book, the author's sense of style, the author's moral fiber, the validity of the author's career and the author's character. None of which was sought after or requested. The length and fervor of your post, coupled with the fact that is was not requested lead me to characterize the post as vehement. You obviously wanted to get a point across whether it was requested or not or related or not to the discussion of the others posting on the topic.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. I wouldn't deny that. However, I would state that you have a responsibility for your actions. And in the recent past, many posts on this forum have degenerated into arguments, some really quite vicious. Many of those arguments because of people sharing their opinions whether solicited or not. Was it your goal to provide negative, unsolicited input? Or perhaps I should ask, did you have a goal or intention in mind when you posted? There are currently 470 views of this post and only about 40 or so posts responded. Many people are able to read a topic and make the choice not to participate without input that appears on the face of it to be particularly and unnecessarily negative.

I hope that this cleared up the intentions of my response to your post.

[HBO 0]

I thought the subject was about the book by Pete Agbo, not character assassination. Read the book, give your insight. Not why you won't purchase the book.

Is this the right post? If not, I am sorry. If so, let's discuss the book, his directions for American women, etc.

If it don't fit don't force it.

Yes, you should get back to the book. Enjoy!

Thanks for telling me what I should do. I am done with this.

Thanks Omoba for suggesting the book.

I pray that all (who purchased) will enjoy and gain insight from what Pete has written.

Constance

[HBO 0]

Throughout the 90's I was an avid opposer of the diamond trade due to the inhumane treatment of the African people. However, if you were to do your research you would find that the Clean Diamond Trade Act, established in 2003, was created as a means to stop this inhumane treatment of the African people as well as the profiting of Gorilla warfare in this already war-torn country. The act is a United States law designed to stop the trade of diamonds that fund violent civil conflicts in many African countries. The law showed the U.S. participation in the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme for trade in rough diamonds.

Also, since you are unaware of where this man purchased his diamonds, I would suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself. Currently, the Ekati Diamond Mine in Canada is one of the largest producing diamond mines in the world. It is capable of providing 1 diamond per US citizen per day for over the next 25 years.

I myself have researched this mine and option extensively since diamonds are a girls best friend and I want one. However, as previously stated, I do NOT and will NOT support the blood diamond trade. This man, obviously educated, has probably done his research prior to his purchase and like me, got his diamonds from a very well publicly certified diamond dealer. One BTW that I would greatly assume DOES NOT support the blood trade in Africa.

Not only are your comments ignorant and unfounded, however they are also defaming towards this man and his character. As an African man, do you NOT think that he researched this. Do you think he would add to the conflict and unresolve of his own country by blatantly displaying diamonds from a war-torn country. A war-torn country that he witnessed falling before him as all other Africans have. For hundreds of years the African people and nation have been in unrest. I see with ignorance like yours why it has been fostered. Only someone like you would be so small minded as to think you can only get milk from a cow. There are obviously numerous resources to get milk, same with diamonds. It is only smalled minded people who do not know that diamonds can be found all over the world and not only in Africa.

Maybe if you would expand your horizons and actually read a book instead of just judging it by its cover, you would learn that just as everything in this world, you have more than one option when trying to purchase a diamond.

[Enlighten one :) 5]

Or perhaps I should ask, did you have a goal or intention in mind when you posted? I hope that this cleared up the intentions of my response to your post.

Yes, how shocked I was that at how embellished his website was. False claims. I deciphered what I found deceptive regarding his claims.

Gee I posted a comment in the other post regarding a book she recommended, I posted my comment and opinion. I was not attcked there. Oh maybe because I agreed.

I will remember next time if I do not agree with your comments I will not post in your forum or a forum you post in.

[Zee Bee 61]

Or perhaps I should ask, did you have a goal or intention in mind when you posted? I hope that this cleared up the intentions of my response to your post.

Yes, how shocked I was that at how embellished his website was. False claims. I deciphered what I found deceptive regarding his claims.

Gee I posted a comment in the other post regarding a book she recommended, I posted my comment and opinion. I was not attcked there. Oh maybe because I agreed.

I will remember next time if I do not agree with your comments I will not post in your forum or a forum you post in.

Excitement about reading a book from an author you know is very diffferent from being negative about an author and a book you have not read. If you had read the book and then made your statements my reaction would be different.