how to talk to a HCMC C/O ?

[yellow123 0]

Has anyone successful set up an appointment with a C/O from HCMC and be able to meet them in the consulate ? if yes, then please show me how. I talked to a C/O last time I was in the consulate, but she was very busy and only answered a few questions.

Edited December 22, 2007 by yellow123

[Teacher Mark 53]

Has anyone successful set up an appointment with a C/O from HCMC and be able to meet them in the consulate ? if yes, then please show me how. I talked to a C/O last time I was in the consulate, but she was very busy and only answered a few questions.

" Update: Visa finally received after delay (HCMC)

This is the post I had hoped to write one day. My fiance got her K1 visa. Original post describing her interview is here. After President Bush finally left town, my attorney in HCMC was able to meet with the immigration chief and cleared things up in a matter of minutes. To be honest, there was no good reason for them to give her a blue slip (221g) in the first place. My attorney said because our application was so well prepared. To quote him:

"There was nothing specific about your case that

caused them to delay it. In fact, the reason they

gave me the pink slip was because you had such

a strong case. They could not justify delaying it

any longer. So your immaculate petition actually made a

difference."

Again, actions at the HCMC Consulate seem very arbitrary. As it turns out, this wasn't about "luck." It was about having a good lawyer who had good relations with the consulate and was prepared by knowing the laws.

Anyway, I truly wish you all the best in dealing with this place. I don't want to sound pessimistic. In the end, we knew things would work out because our relationship is legit. Keep that in mind as you are buffeted by the turbulence. We're excited. Our little girl will be born here so that, as my lawyer joked with the immigration chief about, she'll be able to be president one day. :-)

Best,

3AD"

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=14430

I find myself referring back to this case time and time again on this site. It seems the best action is to retain counsel and let them deal with it. There is another post on here that deals with a members experience with getting in to see the C/O at HCMC. I will keep looking for it and post it when I find it.

[AmericanGentleman 0]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

[Kevin and 10]

If you are not comfortable with the process you can retain an attorney. If you do make sure that the attorney practices in US Immigration Law and that the attorney is a member of AILA- American Immigration Lawyers Association. Good Luck!

[yellow123 0]

Thanks guys. I called in yesterday and they told me I have the right to talk to a C/O but I would need to first submit a paper requesting the interview. The C/O would then schedule an appointment with the earliest being within 3 days and the longest being thier discretion. Too bad I live in Hue and have to fly in just to turn in that paper.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

I have mentioned him because he seems to have been able to help several people on this site. I am merely a person in the same predicament. I have absolutely no affiliation with Mr. Ellis, of that you can be assured. In fact I have never even spoke with him. We are dealing with a bureaucracy that seems to be writing the rules to suit their needs. With that it mind it is my personal opinion that legal advice could be in order. This is merely my opinion and it is advice that I intend to heed myself, if need be. The advice that is posted by the Embassy/Consulate is warranted. I am sure that there are several unscrupulous parties that prey on people in this situation. In fact some may have banner ads on this site claiming 100% success. In my research, which is extensive, I have discovered that Mr. Ellis does not claim 100% success. He does seem to know the way through the arduous process however. With that being said, American Gentleman if it is a conspiracy you seek I would advice turning your attention to the "grassy knoll" or fake lunar landings because there is nothing to be found here.

[Teacher Mark 53]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/lofivers...php/t98541.html

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=98604

If I were in country and I had chosen not to seek counsel I would be on the doorstep , written request in hand, politely demanding my right as a U.S. Citizen for an audience with the powers that be. Once again this is only my personal opinion.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

Here is another link to take a gander at AG:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...0004718190aRCRD

The more I look at your response to my post the more it irritates me. I have looked at several of your other posts and you strike me as the type to come, take a quick look, make a rash judgment and move on to something else. I have spent over 100 hours researching the coarse of action I plan to take should difficulties arise with my impending marriage. This is merely in a 5 month period. I still have at least a year to go before the interview and my plans obviously could change but one thing that I know will remain consistent is the fact that I want my wife here as soon as possible and if it takes the threat of legal action then so be it. I have been told by another member the costs associated with retaining Mr. Ellis and I feel it is more than reasonable considering some of the possible alternatives. One thing that I am terrified of is the possibility of a bird flu outbreak of pandemic proportions. I do not want to sit back, ala Oscar Schindler, and ask myself "What else could I have done"?

Once again your statement about persistence is true in my opinion. There comes a time that the gloves must come off though.The U.S. Government says that there are crooks out there? Wow! Alert the press! If I were in charge of HCMC I would probably have a flash intro on the home page declaring this. I wouldn't want Lawyers questioning my decisions after all.

Here is another article to take a look at:

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2004,0108-ellis.shtm

Once again I have never even spoke with the guy but I love the article and if his bio is correct I have a certain respect for him and what he does. I have also googled the hell out of his name and have yet to come up with anything of a negative nature. The only thing I found that could be remotely construed as negative is a post from someone on another site saying that they were not able to retain him due to a high case load.

P.S. If you think I am a Lawyer or a Visa Broker trying to drum up business AG I appreciate the compliment. In reality I am merely a truck driver who is in love with the most beautiful woman in the world. Now my mission in life is to get her to the best country in the world to raise a family with me. If I can provide information that I have accrued along the way to others in the same predicament I will do so and be glad that I had the opportunity to be of some assistance.

[AmericanGentleman 0]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

I have mentioned him because he seems to have been able to help several people on this site. I am merely a person in the same predicament. I have absolutely no affiliation with Mr. Ellis, of that you can be assured. In fact I have never even spoke with him. We are dealing with a bureaucracy that seems to be writing the rules to suit their needs. With that it mind it is my personal opinion that legal advice could be in order. This is merely my opinion and it is advice that I intend to heed myself, if need be. The advice that is posted by the Embassy/Consulate is warranted. I am sure that there are several unscrupulous parties that prey on people in this situation. In fact some may have banner ads on this site claiming 100% success. In my research, which is extensive, I have discovered that Mr. Ellis does not claim 100% success. He does seem to know the way through the arduous process however. With that being said, American Gentleman if it is a conspiracy you seek I would advice turning your attention to the "grassy knoll" or fake lunar landings because there is nothing to be found here.

Wow, awful defensive there. I have simply noticed that every single one of your posts is about lawyers. Maybe my suspicions of you are unwarrented, if so I apologize. But maybe you could direct me to some of your posts that do not include stuff about hiring lawyers? I noticed you dont have a timeline either. Can you direct me to some of your posts that are not lawyer related, maybe some thread in the past where you mention your "same predicament"? You, of course, have no obligation to prove me wrong, but I hope you will in the spirit of fellowship.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

I have mentioned him because he seems to have been able to help several people on this site. I am merely a person in the same predicament. I have absolutely no affiliation with Mr. Ellis, of that you can be assured. In fact I have never even spoke with him. We are dealing with a bureaucracy that seems to be writing the rules to suit their needs. With that it mind it is my personal opinion that legal advice could be in order. This is merely my opinion and it is advice that I intend to heed myself, if need be. The advice that is posted by the Embassy/Consulate is warranted. I am sure that there are several unscrupulous parties that prey on people in this situation. In fact some may have banner ads on this site claiming 100% success. In my research, which is extensive, I have discovered that Mr. Ellis does not claim 100% success. He does seem to know the way through the arduous process however. With that being said, American Gentleman if it is a conspiracy you seek I would advice turning your attention to the "grassy knoll" or fake lunar landings because there is nothing to be found here.

Wow, awful defensive there. I have simply noticed that every single one of your posts is about lawyers. Maybe my suspicions of you are unwarrented, if so I apologize. But maybe you could direct me to some of your posts that do not include stuff about hiring lawyers? I noticed you dont have a timeline either. Can you direct me to some of your posts that are not lawyer related, maybe some thread in the past where you mention your "same predicament"? You, of course, have no obligation to prove me wrong, but I hope you will in the spirit of fellowship.

Obviously you are not an English Major. Here's an idea, USE SPELL CHECK! As for a defense why would I have to defend myself against an obvious moron? Here's another idea, why don't you go apply for a job at the Consulate? My suspicion is that you would fit right in.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Be wary of people claiming hiring a lawyer can help you. The embassy website states that "Visa Fixers" and "Visa Expedite Services" are shams and in no way help you.

I have noticed the above poster mentions hiring a specific lawyer in many other threads. Makes one wonder as to the motive of those posts.

I have mentioned him because he seems to have been able to help several people on this site. I am merely a person in the same predicament. I have absolutely no affiliation with Mr. Ellis, of that you can be assured. In fact I have never even spoke with him. We are dealing with a bureaucracy that seems to be writing the rules to suit their needs. With that it mind it is my personal opinion that legal advice could be in order. This is merely my opinion and it is advice that I intend to heed myself, if need be. The advice that is posted by the Embassy/Consulate is warranted. I am sure that there are several unscrupulous parties that prey on people in this situation. In fact some may have banner ads on this site claiming 100% success. In my research, which is extensive, I have discovered that Mr. Ellis does not claim 100% success. He does seem to know the way through the arduous process however. With that being said, American Gentleman if it is a conspiracy you seek I would advice turning your attention to the "grassy knoll" or fake lunar landings because there is nothing to be found here.

Wow, awful defensive there. I have simply noticed that every single one of your posts is about lawyers. Maybe my suspicions of you are unwarrented, if so I apologize. But maybe you could direct me to some of your posts that do not include stuff about hiring lawyers? I noticed you dont have a timeline either. Can you direct me to some of your posts that are not lawyer related, maybe some thread in the past where you mention your "same predicament"? You, of course, have no obligation to prove me wrong, but I hope you will in the spirit of fellowship.

P.S. My time line is complete. We are to be married in

March. That is when the paperwork starts. Do you actually know anything about this process or are you just "winging" it?

[AmericanGentleman 0]

This is what I see when I click on your timeline:

K-3 Visa

Event Date

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

Marriage :

I-130 Sent :

I-130 NOA1 :

I-129F Sent :

I-129F NOA1 :

I-129F RFE(s) :

RFE Reply(s) :

I-129F NOA2 :

NVC Received :

NVC Left :

Consulate Received :

Packet 3 Received :

Packet 3 Sent :

Packet 4 Received :

Interview Date :

Visa Received :

US Entry :

I-130 Approval :

Comments : We are just starting the process!

Processing

Estimates/Stats :

Does not seem very complete to me. And yes, I fully understand the process and have assisted many people complete the process, though I fail to see how that is relevant to my assertion and ever increasing suspicion that you are not being 100% above the table as to why your making so many "hire a lawyer" threads. I find it pecular that you would even ask such a thing and suggest I might be "winging it". Its almost as if your wanting to avoid answering my question by seeing if I will fall into some pitfall of a conflict.

So I will ask you again. Can you show me where you have been posting anything on these forums other than "hire a lawyer"?

[Teacher Mark 53]

This is what I see when I click on your timeline:

K-3 Visa

Event Date

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

Marriage :

I-130 Sent :

I-130 NOA1 :

I-129F Sent :

I-129F NOA1 :

I-129F RFE(s) :

RFE Reply(s) :

I-129F NOA2 :

NVC Received :

NVC Left :

Consulate Received :

Packet 3 Received :

Packet 3 Sent :

Packet 4 Received :

Interview Date :

Visa Received :

US Entry :

I-130 Approval :

Comments : We are just starting the process!

Processing

Estimates/Stats :

Does not seem very complete to me. And yes, I fully understand the process and have assisted many people complete the process, though I fail to see how that is relevant to my assertion and ever increasing suspicion that you are not being 100% above the table as to why your making so many "hire a lawyer" threads. I find it pecular that you would even ask such a thing and suggest I might be "winging it". Its almost as if your wanting to avoid answering my question by seeing if I will fall into some pitfall of a conflict.

So I will ask you again. Can you show me where you have been posting anything on these forums other than "hire a lawyer"?

I"M A TRUCK DRIVER COPERNICUS. Look up my posts yourself. I can imagine the people you have assisted. What a trail of broken dreams that must be. Poor souls, waiting by the mailbox ever so patiently for the approval letter that has yet to come. Their paperwork is probably lining a litter box somewhere in HCMC. The persistence of your delusional thoughts that I may be up to no good is astonishing.

The time line is as complete as it can be. We are doing a K-3 Visa. I am going there in February, getting married AND THEN the paperwork follows. You are doing a K-1. IT IS DIFFERENT!

Now let me answer you directly. I AM NOT AND HAVE NEVER BEEN (OR OFFICIALLY ASSOCIATED WITH) A LAWYER, VISA FIXER, VISA BROKER OR A COMMUNIST!

[AmericanGentleman 0]

Whatever guy. I suppose being a truck driver explains your lack of ability to address my assertions with an air of civility. As I said, I was not able to find any post of yours that didnt discuss hiring lawyers. You are not able to provide me with such posts. Therefore we come to the conclusions that they dont exist, all your posts are about lawyers.

You say you have a complete timeline, then you say you have not even begun the process. I certainly hope you are better at convincing the CO's of your timeline. I posed a valid assertion about the content of your posts and you have had a meltdown over it. Perhaps hiring a lawyer to steer you through this process is indeed in your best interest.

At any rate, I am done here. Good luck to you and your lawyers.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Whatever guy. I suppose being a truck driver explains your lack of ability to address my assertions with an air of civility. As I said, I was not able to find any post of yours that didnt discuss hiring lawyers. You are not able to provide me with such posts. Therefore we come to the conclusions that they dont exist, all your posts are about lawyers.

You say you have a complete timeline, then you say you have not even begun the process. I certainly hope you are better at convincing the CO's of your timeline. I posed a valid assertion about the content of your posts and you have had a meltdown over it. Perhaps hiring a lawyer to steer you through this process is indeed in your best interest.

At any rate, I am done here. Good luck to you and your lawyers.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1192000

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1454943

AG, I am sorry to see that you have decided to retreat. I have actually grown fond of your posts. Let me point out that it was you that accused me of less than honorable motives. You have also indirectly accused the C/O's there of taking bribes. I'd be real careful about that if I were you.

As for my profession, you responded exactly as I knew you would. I would point out that I make a real good living in my chosen profession. What people like you don't understand is that not all truckers are uneducated ruffians and that whatever it is that you are purchasing there is a high likelihood that a truck brought it. I digress though. There are other websites that would be better suited for that debate.

As for our relationship, I have no worries. We both love each other and I will do whatever necessary to bring her here. The need to convince anyone is of no consequence to us. I have faith in the system, but will fight for my rights as an American if necessary. You see when the forefathers sat down a penned the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution they had me in mind. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Unfortunately in this day and age lawyers sometimes become necessary. The Consulate is in Vietnam but that is American soil, which makes it an American process. I want my wife here as soon as possible, so I am prepared to spend $500.00 to $1000.00 more if it means she gets here sooner. That is if there are problems, which hopefully there are not.

In parting let me state that I feel I have been civil. You called me out and I responded. This is an open forum sir and I posted my opinion. I admit that I don't know everything there is to know about this process and the 2 posts where I recommend retaining counsel could be completely off base.

Good luck to you and your Fiancee'. I truly hope she is here soon.