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How to handle illegal immigrants  

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  1. 1. What should we do?

    • Arrest and deport
      14
    • Allow them to be temporary workers, as long as they have a job
      9
    • Fine them and allow them to become citizens, only if they learn English and get to the back of the line
      11


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From the New Yorker article posted in Off Topic:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100185

But the numbers told another story, too. Graham read me one of the questions that his pollster asked about immigration. The poll tested voters’ opinion of three different proposals to deal with illegal immigrants: “arrest and deport”; “allow them to be temporary workers, as long as they have a job”; “fine them and allow them to become citizens only if they learn English and get to the back of the line.” In two separate polls, the majority supported the third option. The average for the first option was only twenty-six per cent.

PLEASE don't turn this into another "illegal immigrants are evil" thread. I seriously am just interested in what people think, just based on these three choices, and how we differ from the American public.

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From the New Yorker article posted in Off Topic:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=100185

But the numbers told another story, too. Graham read me one of the questions that his pollster asked about immigration. The poll tested voters’ opinion of three different proposals to deal with illegal immigrants: “arrest and deport”; “allow them to be temporary workers, as long as they have a job”; “fine them and allow them to become citizens only if they learn English and get to the back of the line.” In two separate polls, the majority supported the third option. The average for the first option was only twenty-six per cent.

PLEASE don't turn this into another "illegal immigrants are evil" thread. I seriously am just interested in what people think, just based on these three choices, and how we differ from the American public.

You ask for respect here yet give none in return. I don't know when or where anyone here has ever made the argument that 'illegals are evil'

Many illegal threads turn bad when ppl emotionally accuse others of saying things they didn't.

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The biggest problem I see is that American politicians and corporations want to have modern immigration policy on the cheap. Unfortunately we get what we pay for. In a lot of ways we end up paying at the back door what we should have paid for up front. And the people that are benefitting hugely from this mismanaged immigration policy (corporations) are getting off Scot free. The people paying the least benefit the most. What we have now is immigration anarchy that does not benefit a vast majority of the American people. And we pay the most for it. Ask most Americans what a policy of mass legal and illegal immigration does for them personally and they are clueless to give a coherent answer except to recite terms they have been spoonfed for years such as "diversity, compassion, immigrant nation, atonement for the American Indians, etc., etc." IMO there is nothing there that justifies perpetuating the mess we have today.

As far as the poll goes...these 3 choices are way too simplistic to be taken seriously.

The system is overwhelmed, mismanaged, lacks necessary infrastructure, is archaic, and is institutionally corrupt. I would like to see US immigration policy take the turn it did from 1924 to 1970. What we have now is not sustainable and has played out. History must repeat itself. The key to the future is to look at the past.

The 4th viable option not given in the poll is "Attrition Through Enforcement". Enforce workplace and immigration laws. The illegal aliens will leave when the party is over. The corporations will not go bankrupt either. The sky will not fall over America without illegal aliens. We have already had 7 illegal alien amnesties, so we already know that is not a solution. What amnesties have done is to perpetuate a total lack of credibility in our immigration policy. The world knows it is a joke.

I would like to see legal immigration lowered to a level that can be competently managed by the infrastructure the American people are willing to pay for. It is obvious to me that increasing immigration is not the answer. The system cannot even competently handle what it has now (legally and illegally).

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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i 2nd that

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arrest and deport.



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draw and then quarter :thumbs:

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USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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