Signs of a Fraudulent Marriage?

[DJ and BJ 0]

I wanted to ask the advice of people up here on whether or not they think this situation constitutes marriage fraud:

Alien comes over on F-1 visa...doesn't maintain requirements of the visa and becomes out of status by not staying enrolled in the school and carrying a full course load as this particular visa requires.

Alien continues to work, without authorization. (At and near an airport, wierd right?)

Alien then gets married and adjusts status for Green card, and does not live with his spouse, and has a girlfriend that is definitely not the spouse...

Alien's sister also has confirmed that he doesn't live with his spouse and has multiple women in his life...

What do you think? And if it smells like fraud what/how, would you do to report it?

I just think that it is really unfair and unjust for those of us who honestly and correctly go about these procedures of being with our spouses...

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Yes, it does sound fraudulent - and highly unlikely to pass AOS.

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

I wanted to ask the advice of people up here on whether or not they think this situation constitutes marriage fraud:

Alien comes over on F-1 visa...doesn't maintain requirements of the visa and becomes out of status by not staying enrolled in the school and carrying a full course load as this particular visa requires.

Alien continues to work, without authorization. (At and near an airport, wierd right?)

Alien then gets married and adjusts status for Green card, and does not live with his spouse, and has a girlfriend that is definitely not the spouse...

Alien's sister also has confirmed that he doesn't live with his spouse and has multiple women in his life...

What do you think? And if it smells like fraud what/how, would you do to report it?

I just think that it is really unfair and unjust for those of us who honestly and correctly go about these procedures of being with our spouses...

If all is true, yeah sounds like fraud. Question: Why do you think its weird he works near/at a airport??? Suspect something?

[DJ and BJ 0]

Yes, it does sound fraudulent - and highly unlikely to pass AOS.

Not sure if they passed AOS, but alien made the comment that he was once legal and now 'legal', so I made the assumption that they indeed suceeded..

[Otto 83]

[meowmeowmeow 1]

i've personally met many people throughout life that got green cards from sham marriages. it does happen, sadly enough. some people are just that desperate to live in the US of A.

[DJ and BJ 0]

After 9/11 I think its wierd because somehow he was able to still obtain someone's ss number, or recieve an ID or work permit, when F-1 visa holder's are not supposed to accept employment until after completing a program.

I don't know about how people are able to obtain illegal documents that 'check out' without being caught; especially working at an airport base...that's why its wierd to me...

[Otto 83]

I don't know about how people are able to obtain illegal documents that 'check out' without being caught; especially working at an airport base...that's why its wierd to me...

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

After 9/11 I think its wierd because somehow he was able to still obtain someone's ss number, or recieve an ID or work permit, when F-1 visa holder's are not supposed to accept employment until after completing a program.

I don't know about how people are able to obtain illegal documents that 'check out' without being caught; especially working at an airport base...that's why its wierd to me...

He could of been paid "Under the Table." but very unlikely at a airport, I hate fraud!!!!

Edited September 7, 2009 by Paris Heart

[Otto 83]

And by the way - if you actually know this person (or actually know of him) I would seriously wish you would consider reporting this to the proper authorities.

The last thing I'd want is a illegal/fraudulent person working at an airport (too easy for them to be bullied/blackmailed into possibly doing things they might not ordinarily do which puts us all at risk).

[DJ and BJ 0]

And by the way - if you actually know this person (or actually know of him) I would seriously wish you would consider reporting this to the proper authorities.

The last thing I'd want is a illegal/fraudulent person working at an airport (too easy for them to be bullied/blackmailed into possibly doing things they might not ordinarily do which puts us all at risk).

Sadly I do know him, he tried to marry me for a green card, that is why we are no longer friends. I want to report him, how can I do it? Just call ICE? Can I report anonymously?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I wanted to ask the advice of people up here on whether or not they think this situation constitutes marriage fraud:

Alien comes over on F-1 visa...doesn't maintain requirements of the visa and becomes out of status by not staying enrolled in the school and carrying a full course load as this particular visa requires.

Alien continues to work, without authorization. (At and near an airport, wierd right?)

Alien then gets married and adjusts status for Green card, and does not live with his spouse, and has a girlfriend that is definitely not the spouse...

Alien's sister also has confirmed that he doesn't live with his spouse and has multiple women in his life...

What do you think? And if it smells like fraud what/how, would you do to report it?

I just think that it is really unfair and unjust for those of us who honestly and correctly go about these procedures of being with our spouses...

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. Either way, fraud or just a really wierd relationship I doubt it would pass the smell test at the AOS unless they can pull off a pretty good charade. I can say this though, we had our AOS interview and were never asked to provide a single piece of evidence or asked a single question regarding our relationship...NONE. Had WE done exactly what this person is doing, we would have passed (except for the visa violations from earlier, I don't know about that)

If you think this is fraudulent it can be reported to the USCIS and I don't any of us that have been through the process legally would object to that. This kind of thing is, after all, what it makes it difficult for the rest of us.

And by the way - if you actually know this person (or actually know of him) I would seriously wish you would consider reporting this to the proper authorities.

The last thing I'd want is a illegal/fraudulent person working at an airport (too easy for them to be bullied/blackmailed into possibly doing things they might not ordinarily do which puts us all at risk).

Sadly I do know him, he tried to marry me for a green card, that is why we are no longer friends. I want to report him, how can I do it? Just call ICE? Can I report anonymously?

Yes and Yes.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

After 9/11 I think its wierd because somehow he was able to still obtain someone's ss number, or recieve an ID or work permit, when F-1 visa holder's are not supposed to accept employment until after completing a program.

I don't know about how people are able to obtain illegal documents that 'check out' without being caught; especially working at an airport base...that's why its wierd to me...

The problem is, until recently, it was hard to "check out" someone. The systems would only verify the SS number was valid, not who it belonged to. Now they are much better, but what if he was working there for some years, and I am not talking ancient history, just 2-3 years ago. The really good systems are just now coming into general use and not everyone uses them. I would THINK an airport would, but remember many of the people working AT airports are not working FOR the airport. Most all the service people work for a contractor, and how well does the contractor follow the rules? How often does the airport audit his employee files and in what detail? The problem (if you call it that) with a FREE country is that it can be difficult to plug every "hole" without being oppressive to everyone else, and Americans basically HATE that.

For a given price you can have whatever false ID you want of a good quality. Stricter rules run the price up. But if someone has knowledge of this they SHOULD report it and I would be very grateful to you if you did. As stated above, an illegal worker is WAY too easy a target for someone to coerce into doing something really bad...not just working illegally.

[D&R 0]

And by the way - if you actually know this person (or actually know of him) I would seriously wish you would consider reporting this to the proper authorities.

The last thing I'd want is a illegal/fraudulent person working at an airport (too easy for them to be bullied/blackmailed into possibly doing things they might not ordinarily do which puts us all at risk).

Sadly I do know him, he tried to marry me for a green card, that is why we are no longer friends. I want to report him, how can I do it? Just call ICE? Can I report anonymously?

I STRONGLY urge you to gather as much hard proof as you can and report this person ASAP! I totally agree that having him working in airport just doesn't seem 1. Right and 2. At all safe.

Do the RIGHT thing!!

[Peace be still 6]

Turn him and his wife in for Fraud.