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I have a friend who did that but he is not a USC though. Thats why i said its not impossible to happen. Let's say he doesnt know the Embassy rules before marrying a Phil. Citizen, and they just went to the civil registry directly to file for a marriage licence. The Civil Registry will also require him to get an LCM. Before we get married in the Phils. I called the Civil Reg. in our town first to get all the requirements we need to file for a Marriage license. Yes you are right and as I also said, the Embassy will see it from their records that he didnt furnish this doc. BTW, we have our own opinion here.

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Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage

Any foreigner who wishes to marry in the Philippines is required by the Philippine Government to obtain from his/her Embassy a "Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage" before filing an application for a marriage license. This certification affirms that there are no legal impediments to the foreigner marrying a Filipino (i.e, that the foreigner is already married to someone else). Unlike the Philippines, the U.S. Government does not keep a central statistical registry for births, marriages and deaths and cannot verify this information. Instead, the Philippine Government accepts an "Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage." Americans may execute this affidavit at the American Embassy in Manila or the U.S. Consular Agency in Cebu. Personal appearances of the American citizen applicant cannot be waived, but the fiance(e) need not be present. Philippine authorities will not accept any substitute document initiated in the United States.

Applicants may apply for the "Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage" at the Embassy's American Citizen Services Branch everyday from Monday through Friday from 8:00 - 10:00 am.(except Philippine and American holidays). The American must present his/her U.S. passport. There is a fee of $30.00 or its peso equivalent for the affidavit, payable in cash only.

The Affidavit is notarized by a U.S. consular officer. The consular officer can refuse to perform this service if the document will be used for a purpose patently unlawful, improper, or inimical to the best interest of the United States. Entering into a marriage contract with an alien strictly for the purpose of enabling entry to the United States for that individual is considered an unlawful act. Section 4221 of Title 22 United States Code provides penalties for individuals who commit perjury in an affidavit taken by a consular officer. BACK TO TOP

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I have a friend who did that but he is not a USC though. Thats why i said its not impossible to happen. Let's say he doesnt know the Embassy rules before marrying a Phil. Citizen, and they just went to the civil registry directly to file for a marriage licence. The Civil Registry will also require him to get an LCM. Before we get married in the Phils. I called the Civil Reg. in our town first to get all the requirements we need to file for a Marriage license. Yes you are right and as I also said, the Embassy will see it from their records that he didnt furnish this doc. BTW, we have our own opinion here.

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Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage

Any foreigner who wishes to marry in the Philippines is required by the Philippine Government to obtain from his/her Embassy a "Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage" before filing an application for a marriage license. This certification affirms that there are no legal impediments to the foreigner marrying a Filipino (i.e, that the foreigner is already married to someone else). Unlike the Philippines, the U.S. Government does not keep a central statistical registry for births, marriages and deaths and cannot verify this information. Instead, the Philippine Government accepts an "Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage." Americans may execute this affidavit at the American Embassy in Manila or the U.S. Consular Agency in Cebu. Personal appearances of the American citizen applicant cannot be waived, but the fiance(e) need not be present. Philippine authorities will not accept any substitute document initiated in the United States.

Applicants may apply for the "Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage" at the Embassy's American Citizen Services Branch everyday from Monday through Friday from 8:00 - 10:00 am.(except Philippine and American holidays). The American must present his/her U.S. passport. There is a fee of $30.00 or its peso equivalent for the affidavit, payable in cash only.

The Affidavit is notarized by a U.S. consular officer. The consular officer can refuse to perform this service if the document will be used for a purpose patently unlawful, improper, or inimical to the best interest of the United States. Entering into a marriage contract with an alien strictly for the purpose of enabling entry to the United States for that individual is considered an unlawful act. Section 4221 of Title 22 United States Code provides penalties for individuals who commit perjury in an affidavit taken by a consular officer. BACK TO TOP

Brettanna what you did was to tell the OP to commit a crime dont post any more of your B.S.

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Her mom works in the superior court of Bansalan which is her hometown and the court we got married at. If you need more info, please ask me. I'm desparate for some guidance. I'm trying to remain positive. Thank you all in advance.

We both know why he didnt get an LCM or why they didnt require him. What do you think they do? A special treatment, maybe? FYI Im not giving any idea here to do illegal. I just share what my friend did. Be polite pls.

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Her mom works in the superior court of Bansalan which is her hometown and the court we got married at. If you need more info, please ask me. I'm desparate for some guidance. I'm trying to remain positive. Thank you all in advance.

We both know why he didnt get an LCM or why they didnt require him. What do you think they do? A special treatment, maybe? FYI Im not giving any idea here to do illegal. I just share what my friend did. Be polite pls.

FYI BOLA yes you did. Stop whipping a dead horse your not going to win this argument!

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IGNORANCE OF THE LAW DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM ENFORCEMENT!!!!!

Ok... Someone in the Philippine LCR made a mistake letting you apply for and receive a marriage certificate. That may come back to haunt you. Good news is you can apply for the I-130 and I-129f k3... With the LCR copy of the marriage certificate

In my case I had to wait 15 days after the local LCR forwarded theit copy of the marriage certificate to the regional office before I could get the NSO copy.

You will need the NSO copy once the NVC requests the DS-230 and supporting documentation or the Embassy requests it processing the I-129f k3.

My thoughts are if you get the NSO copy... You will probably never have a problem. If you have the opportunity to return to Manila. I would suggest you get the Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage Certificate in case anyone asks for it.

That is my two cents... Maybe only worth only one though... GOOD LUCK!!!

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Hello everyone. Last month in May(5/13-5/24) I went to the philippines to visit my fiancee for the first time. While I was there we decided to get married. We got married in am on the 24th, as I had to be there 10 days to legally process this. At the present we are awaiting our marriage contract so I can process the petition for her to be here in the USA. I just read something from another post about a "Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage", which I haven't an idea about this. Can someone help me to understand where i stand and what needs to be done at this point in order for us to be together? I really wish this was a whole lot easier. When do i file? What are the fees look like? PLEASE...what are the next steps? I miss her so much:(

If this is necessary, I visited Digos City, Davao del sur, in Mindanao. Her mom works in the superior court of Bansalan which is her hometown and the court we got married at. If you need more info, please ask me. I'm desparate for some guidance. I'm trying to remain positive. Thank you all in advance.

The way I see it you have 120 days to fix this call the US Embassy and see if you can go to some office in your state and do the form? or email the US embassy in manila?

Philippine law prescribes a ten-day waiting period from the filing of the application to the issuance of the marriage license. The license is valid for 120 days and may be used anywhere in the Philippines.

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Hello everyone. Last month in May(5/13-5/24) I went to the philippines to visit my fiancee for the first time. While I was there we decided to get married. We got married in am on the 24th, as I had to be there 10 days to legally process this. At the present we are awaiting our marriage contract so I can process the petition for her to be here in the USA. I just read something from another post about a "Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage", which I haven't an idea about this. Can someone help me to understand where i stand and what needs to be done at this point in order for us to be together? I really wish this was a whole lot easier. When do i file? What are the fees look like? PLEASE...what are the next steps? I miss her so much:(

If this is necessary, I visited Digos City, Davao del sur, in Mindanao. Her mom works in the superior court of Bansalan which is her hometown and the court we got married at. If you need more info, please ask me. I'm desparate for some guidance. I'm trying to remain positive. Thank you all in advance.

The Marriage Application Process

Once an American citizen has obtained from the Embassy an Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Marry, he/she can file an application for a marriage license at the office of the Philippine Civil Registrar in the town or city where one of the parties is a resident. The license is a requirement for either a civil or church wedding in the Philippines. The U.S. citizen applicant will need to present:

the affidavit in lieu of a certificate of legal capacity to marry;

divorce decree(s) or death certificate(s) required to verify civil status and capacity to marry;

U.S. passport;

documentation regarding paternal consent or advice, if applicable.

A judge, a minister or any other person authorized by the Government of the Philippines can perform the marriage. Marriage applicants aged 18 to 21 must have written parental consent. Applicants aged 22 to 24 must have received parental advice. Philippine law prohibits the marriage of individuals under the age of 18.

Philippine law prescribes a ten-day waiting period from the filing of the application to the issuance of the marriage license. The license is valid for 120 days and may be used anywhere in the Philippines.

Marriage to a U.S. citizen confers neither citizenship nor an automatic eligibility for entry to the United States. If the U.S. citizen does not reside in the Philippines, the Petition for Immigrant Visa (I-130) must be filed through the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services office in the United States or at DHS window 19 (8-11:00AM, 1-3:00PM) at the US Embassy .

Any questions about filing an immigrant visa petition to bring the spouse to the United States should be directed to the nearest office of Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, the State Department's Visa Office (202) 663-1225 or, while in the Philippines, to the American Embassy in Manila. BACK TO TOP

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IGNORANCE OF THE LAW DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM ENFORCEMENT!!!!!

Ok... Someone in the Philippine LCR made a mistake letting you apply for and receive a marriage certificate. That may come back to haunt you. Good news is you can apply for the I-130 and I-129f k3... With the LCR copy of the marriage certificate

In my case I had to wait 15 days after the local LCR forwarded theit copy of the marriage certificate to the regional office before I could get the NSO copy.

You will need the NSO copy once the NVC requests the DS-230 and supporting documentation or the Embassy requests it processing the I-129f k3.

My thoughts are if you get the NSO copy... You will probably never have a problem. If you have the opportunity to return to Manila. I would suggest you get the Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage Certificate in case anyone asks for it.

That is my two cents... Maybe only worth only one though... GOOD LUCK!!!

Sorry but they will need the LCR you can't skip it!

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Ok since the marriage is invalid, how about forgetting I-130/K-3 and go for K-1 instead? Anyone?

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Consulate : Manilla, Philipines

I-129F Sent : APRIL 26, 2008

I-129F NOA1 : MAY 1, 2008

Touched : MAY 14, 2008

Touched : SEP 9, 2008

I-129F NOA2 : SEP 9, 2008

Medical: Nov7 and Nov10 PASSED!

Interview Date : NOV 17, 2008 Pink Slip!!!

Visa Received : NOV 22, 2008

US Entry : NOV 24, 2008 POE: GUAM

Marriage : January 8, 2009

Comments : I AM LOVING COLORADO!!!

AOS (I-485, I-765, I-131)

AOS Packet Sent: Feb 21, 2009

NOA1 Received in the mail: Mar 2, 2009

Biometrics appointment letter received: Mar 9, 2009

Biometrics: Mar 25, 2009

Advance Parole Approved: Apr 29, 2009

EAD Approval Date: May 6, 2009

Advance Parole received in the mail: May 7, 2009

Interview: July 20, 2009 APPROVED

Card Production Ordered: July 21, 2009

Welcome to America Letter Received: July 27, 2009

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IGNORANCE OF THE LAW DOES NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM ENFORCEMENT!!!!!

Ok... Someone in the Philippine LCR made a mistake letting you apply for and receive a marriage certificate. That may come back to haunt you. Good news is you can apply for the I-130 and I-129f k3... With the LCR copy of the marriage certificate

In my case I had to wait 15 days after the local LCR forwarded theit copy of the marriage certificate to the regional office before I could get the NSO copy.

You will need the NSO copy once the NVC requests the DS-230 and supporting documentation or the Embassy requests it processing the I-129f k3.

My thoughts are if you get the NSO copy... You will probably never have a problem. If you have the opportunity to return to Manila. I would suggest you get the Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage Certificate in case anyone asks for it.

That is my two cents... Maybe only worth only one though... GOOD LUCK!!!

Sorry but they will need the LCR you can't skip it!

Look all of you Stop trying to circumvent the law or rules! Just fix it

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Ok since the marriage is invalid, how about forgetting I-130/K-3 and go for K-1 instead? Anyone?

the Doc are at NSO to late but, it'snot void at this point he needs to fix it

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Ok since the marriage is invalid, how about forgetting I-130/K-3 and go for K-1 instead? Anyone?

the Doc are at NSO to late but, it'snot void at this point he needs to fix it

this is how it works I married in the Phil

Once an American citizen has obtained from the Embassy an Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Marry, he/she can file an application for a marriage license at the office of the Philippine Civil Registrar in the town or city where one of the parties is a resident. The license is a requirement for either a civil or church wedding in the Philippines. The U.S. citizen applicant will need to present:

the affidavit in lieu of a certificate of legal capacity to marry;

divorce decree(s) or death certificate(s) required to verify civil status and capacity to marry;

U.S. passport;

documentation regarding paternal consent or advice, if applicable.

After that: A judge, a minister or any other person authorized by the Government of the Philippines can perform the marriage. Marriage applicants aged 18 to 21 must have written parental consent. Applicants aged 22 to 24 must have received parental advice. Philippine law prohibits the marriage of individuals under the age of 18.

After that:

Philippine law prescribes a ten-day waiting period from the filing of the application to the issuance of the marriage license. The license is valid for 120 days and may be used anywhere in the Philippines.

My waiting time was longer then that this is so all the paper work gos to NSO and all docs are the check-out for past marriage/marriage US and Philippines. Then after that you will get a call from C.Reg. in the province of filing you go back and both of them sign it then you are married

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Ok since the marriage is invalid, how about forgetting I-130/K-3 and go for K-1 instead? Anyone?

the Doc are at NSO to late but, it'snot void at this point he needs to fix it

this is how it works I married in the Phil

Once an American citizen has obtained from the Embassy an Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Marry, he/she can file an application for a marriage license at the office of the Philippine Civil Registrar in the town or city where one of the parties is a resident. The license is a requirement for either a civil or church wedding in the Philippines. The U.S. citizen applicant will need to present:

the affidavit in lieu of a certificate of legal capacity to marry;

divorce decree(s) or death certificate(s) required to verify civil status and capacity to marry;

U.S. passport;

documentation regarding paternal consent or advice, if applicable.

After that: A judge, a minister or any other person authorized by the Government of the Philippines can perform the marriage. Marriage applicants aged 18 to 21 must have written parental consent. Applicants aged 22 to 24 must have received parental advice. Philippine law prohibits the marriage of individuals under the age of 18.

After that:

Philippine law prescribes a ten-day waiting period from the filing of the application to the issuance of the marriage license. The license is valid for 120 days and may be used anywhere in the Philippines.

My waiting time was longer then that this is so all the paper work gos to NSO and all docs are the check-out for past marriage/marriage US and Philippines. Then after that you will get a call from C.Reg. in the province of filing you go back and both of them sign it then you are married

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Ok since the marriage is invalid, how about forgetting I-130/K-3 and go for K-1 instead? Anyone?

the Doc are at NSO to late but, it'snot void at this point he needs to fix it

this is how it works I married in the Phil

Once an American citizen has obtained from the Embassy an Affidavit in Lieu of a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Marry, he/she can file an application for a marriage license at the office of the Philippine Civil Registrar in the town or city where one of the parties is a resident. The license is a requirement for either a civil or church wedding in the Philippines. The U.S. citizen applicant will need to present:

the affidavit in lieu of a certificate of legal capacity to marry;

divorce decree(s) or death certificate(s) required to verify civil status and capacity to marry;

U.S. passport;

documentation regarding paternal consent or advice, if applicable.

After that: A judge, a minister or any other person authorized by the Government of the Philippines can perform the marriage. Marriage applicants aged 18 to 21 must have written parental consent. Applicants aged 22 to 24 must have received parental advice. Philippine law prohibits the marriage of individuals under the age of 18.

After that:

Philippine law prescribes a ten-day waiting period from the filing of the application to the issuance of the marriage license. The license is valid for 120 days and may be used anywhere in the Philippines.

My waiting time was longer then that this is so all the paper work gos to NSO and all docs are the check-out for past marriage/marriage US and Philippines. Then after that you will get a call from C.Reg. in the province of filing you go back and both of them sign it then you are married

one more thing we had a civil wed. at my wifes home a lady from the civil Reg. came to her home to verify the marriage.

so how did to OP get around the LCM? its a must any judge minister or civil Reg. would not have preformed the marriage? read the OP about mom working in court? hmmmmmmm...

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LCM is required by the Civil Registrar in the Philippines but is not required when you file I-130 or I-129f at USCIS or when the spouse has her interview in the embassy. There were instances that the spouse's family or relatives has "political influence" in the Civil Registrar office and they do not require LCM anymore. I know of someone who used to posts here in VJ who got married and was not required to submit it when they applied for a marriage license. His wife and kids are now in the US.

Since the OP is already married without obtaining LCM, in my opinion all they can do right now is wait for the NSO copy of their marriage certificate and file the petition. Once the petition is filed, the USCIS will do a background check on the USC petitioner and they will find out if he was free to marry before getting married in the Philippines and if he is capable of supporting his wife when he gets to the US.

This is just my 2 cents, file the petition and when it gets approve and has a schedule for interview the OP can go back in the Philippines and have the interview with his wife. If it were me, I will not ask my husband to come fly all the way back and spend money for plane tickets just for the LCM. The important thing that the embassy is looking for are proofs of bonafide relationship.

05/18/07 married

05/29/07 sent I-130s for me & my daughter at CSC

06/16/07 checks for I-130 cashed

06/19/07 sent I-129F not waiting for noa1 but with printed online copies of checks cashed

06/25/07 check for I-129f cashed

06/29/07 transferred I-129f to CSC

07/03/07 received noa1 in the mail for I-129f

10/31/07 approved K3 and my I-130 except for my daughter

11/05/07 received NOA2 in the mail

12/01/07 received mail from NVC/yey we got our case number

12/20/07 went to St. Lukes and had my early medical exam

01/30/08 schedule for medical

02/07/08 interview, approved!

02/12/08 visa pick-up/cfo

02/14/08 POE-LAX

06/19/08 AOS mailed thru USPS

06/22/08 AOS delivered to Chicago IL

06/28/08 check cashed

06/30/08 received NOA1 dated 06/25/08

07/26/08 biometrics appointment

09/09/08 received EAD card in the mail

12/03/08 received interview letter for Jan 21 2009

01/21/09 approved for conditional permanent residence

02/02/09 permanent residence card arrived in the mail

10/21/10 submit form to remove conditions

01/21/11 10 year gc received

03/05/12 mailed my N-400

03/06/12 received email that they have my N-400

04/05/12 biometrics

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