Moroccans out there or Moroccan SO

[Kenza 1]

I know all of you are bringing your SO over to the US but have you talked with your SO about moving back to Morocco? My hubby always says that once I finish school and we have our babies we will move back to Morocco and at first I said ok, but I don't like Morocco-only for vacation. I love Moroccan culture but every time I'm there for a long period of time, I get frusterated with it! and there are so many things I don't like about it in relation to raising a family...anyways what are your thoughts?

[Abbas 0]

Hi Kenza

I was just there four months last year. It is true that the time get longer as you stay, especially in the winter time. Ow, I love summer time in Morocco. However, with a job or business, it is great. Me, and my wife are definetly thinking about that, in the future though.

[Kenza 1]

Hi Kenza

I was just there four months last year. It is true that the time get longer as you stay, especially in the winter time. Ow, I love summer time in Morocco. However, with a job or business, it is great. Me, and my wife are definetly thinking about that, in the future though.

That's the thing though...in Morocco your either very rich with your own business or poor...the only motivation in me going there is to make a difference some how!

[adam1 1]

Hi Kenza

I was just there four months last year. It is true that the time get longer as you stay, especially in the winter time. Ow, I love summer time in Morocco. However, with a job or business, it is great. Me, and my wife are definetly thinking about that, in the future though.

That's the thing though...in Morocco your either very rich with your own business or poor...the only motivation in me going there is to make a difference some how!

One of my wife condition to marry me was to go back to Morocco one day and raise our kids there, I agreed and I always wanted that. the main reason for that is to raise our kids based on Islam and Moroccan tradition, you grow up in the US and you know what happens to a lot of kids in high school( drugs, sex...) its not easy to raise kids in the US, Most of them have no respect for there parents, also think about the third generation and their kids. you are probably one of the lucky ones you were born and raise in the US and grow up as good Muslim, your father did a good job .

Its not easy to go back to Morocco, espestialy for you because your US is you home and you parents probably still live in the US verces you hubby's parents. if you love your husband you will be happy with him any where he goes. If he ask you this again tell him I will go to the moon with you if you decided so! what ever makes you happy!!

one more thing lets not jump to conclusion after he come over her he may change his mind like your dad

[Kenza 1]

Hi Kenza

I was just there four months last year. It is true that the time get longer as you stay, especially in the winter time. Ow, I love summer time in Morocco. However, with a job or business, it is great. Me, and my wife are definetly thinking about that, in the future though.

That's the thing though...in Morocco your either very rich with your own business or poor...the only motivation in me going there is to make a difference some how!

One of my wife condition to marry me was to go back to Morocco one day and raise our kids there, I agreed and I always wanted that. the main reason for that is to raise our kids based on Islam and Moroccan tradition, you grow up in the US and you know what happens to a lot of kids in high school( drugs, sex...) its not easy to raise kids in the US, Most of them have no respect for there parents, also think about the third generation and their kids. you are probably one of the lucky ones you were born and raise in the US and grow up as good Muslim, your father did a good job .

Its not easy to go back to Morocco, espestialy for you because your US is you home and you parents probably still live in the US verces you hubby's parents. if you love your husband you will be happy with him any where he goes. If he ask you this again tell him I will go to the moon with you if you decided so! what ever makes you happy!!

one more thing lets not jump to conclusion after he come over her he may change his mind like your dad

True True...although there is a very strong Muslim community here and there is a Muslim school up to 12th grade...

[Leyla 0]

My husband and I have talked about it. Personally, I think we should live in Morocco now and come back to the US later.

I know I complain about the US sometimes... but I love it. After visiting Morocco and coming back I appreciated the states a lot more. The biggest reason I think I'd like to live there and THEN here is his parents. His mom is very sick with diabetes and his dad is very old too. And I know this sounds bad... but my parents will most likely outlive his (Inshaallah) and I would hate for him to be so far away when all of that happens... you know?

Then again, having my babies in Morocco and not in the US would make me sad because I want my mom and dad to be there for that time in my life.

*SIGH!!!* I have no idea what I want or how it will happen only God knows.

[MrsAmera 41]

My husband and I often talk about this and do plan to do it a few years after he gets his citizenship (so it's easier for us to go back and forth). We have two kids 5 and 2 and we would like them to go to school in Morocco to learn the language and culture. We enjoy the much more laid back pace of life that we could enjoy as well as being surrounded by family to help us. It will be hard for me because I will miss my family a lot however, we are planning that we (at least I and the kids) would spend the summer in the US with my family.

[caybee 21]

We have talked about doing this a few years down the road, or the 50/50 split, half a year here and half a year there. I don't think it's an unusual discussion, and it probably helps during the adjustment to know that possibility is there. But I haven't heard of it actually happening in many cases. Once he gets established here and feels at home here, he may feel differently and may find that a few weeks or a couple of months back on a regular basis satisfies him. I think it is normal to worry about how the kids will be raised though. Once he sees what's actually available for them in your community, that may ease his mind. The main thing to him now is probably to just feel assured that you will be supportive and that that door has not been closed for the future. You can decide together when and if to make that move a bit later.

ETA: The time does seem to pass more slowly there and at a less hectic pace. I wouldn't mind the feeling of holding back the hands of time for a few months each year.

Edited April 9, 2009 by caybee

[adam1 1]

Morocco has change a lot lately and there is a lot of opportunities over there to. If you decided to go take a good degree with Bachelor and Up. or a big piece of change and you should be fine. tray to buy a house and a car before you decided to move. school system is free and the basic healthcare is either free or cheap. some people would say the school system over there is not good, but am a tell you based on my experience, I was an average student in Morocco, I pass High school with Passable means C average, But when I got when to college I was the first one in my promotion, I got all kind of scholarships and I got a job before I finish school. the only problem I had at that time was English, I understood everything But I couldn't talk. it took me a year..

Also if decided to move I'm not expecting people to trait me special or to have everything that I have here. I will be ok with anything. when I go on vacation I enjoy going to souk (market) walking everywhere, eat a lot of organic food, go to the beach and play soccer every morning...what I like the most is No Billlllllls no property taxes.

I did the math one time and I found if you house is paid for you will only need about $400 a month to eat and live if nothing out of the ordinary come up. my father has a family of 6 people and he only makes $350 on his retirement.

I know a guy who comes to the state for 4 months work hard save about $8000 and go back spend it.

its possible to go back

[ya falaha! 0]

I don't mean to butt in because this doesn't have to do with Morocco but it does have to do with Arab/Islamic culture. I know that everyone wants to raise their kids in a MENA country because the theory is that's the only way to ensure a child will be raised "right". I know a very lovely Arab/Muslim family who has raised their children here (4 children) and they turned out wonderfully. The oldest daughter is now almost finished with college after attending an Islamic high school/grade school. She has been married for two years. All of the children are very respectful and none of them have gotten into any trouble re: drugs, alcohol, premarital sex. It can be done here in the states.

Not to knock Moroccans or other MENA folks but I've seen some very unruly, disrespectful children being raised in Egypt. It depends on the environment (parents, home life, friends, school) in which they are raised be it here or in the Mid East/North Africa. I mean look at some of the (sorry) losers that some of the ladies here in MENA have imported. They were raised in MENA and look at how lovely they turned out. Sorry.

[adam1 1]

I don't mean to butt in because this doesn't have to do with Morocco but it does have to do with Arab/Islamic culture. I know that everyone wants to raise their kids in a MENA country because the theory is that's the only way to ensure a child will be raised "right". I know a very lovely Arab/Muslim family who has raised their children here (4 children) and they turned out wonderfully. The oldest daughter is now almost finished with college after attending an Islamic high school/grade school. She has been married for two years. All of the children are very respectful and none of them have gotten into any trouble re: drugs, alcohol, premarital sex. It can be done here in the states.

I totally agree, It depends on the environment (parents, home life, friends, school).... I live in Raleigh NC we have big Muslim community and I see what's going on, a lot of kids will act good in front of there parents and when there parents a not around guess what.....I use to go to Friday prayers and meet a lot of young friend then meet them again Friday night at club nights or a bar. I always feel bad for doing that but they didn't...

I want my kids to grow up in Morocco then when they get older they can come to the state live or work or do what ever, I want them to have a solid ground and options.

As a Muslim I worry a lot about the future of my next generation, not like most American they just want to see there kids happy. I want to make sure Allah is happy first then my kids then me. That's my opinion.

[sandinista! 1,816]

I don't mean to butt in because this doesn't have to do with Morocco but it does have to do with Arab/Islamic culture. I know that everyone wants to raise their kids in a MENA country because the theory is that's the only way to ensure a child will be raised "right". I know a very lovely Arab/Muslim family who has raised their children here (4 children) and they turned out wonderfully. The oldest daughter is now almost finished with college after attending an Islamic high school/grade school. She has been married for two years. All of the children are very respectful and none of them have gotten into any trouble re: drugs, alcohol, premarital sex. It can be done here in the states.

Not to knock Moroccans or other MENA folks but I've seen some very unruly, disrespectful children being raised in Egypt. It depends on the environment (parents, home life, friends, school) in which they are raised be it here or in the Mid East/North Africa. I mean look at some of the (sorry) losers that some of the ladies here in MENA have imported. They were raised in MENA and look at how lovely they turned out. Sorry.

so very, very true. good parenting can transcend any and all environments.

[Sandrila 1]

ADAM 1

"to raise our kids based on Islam and Moroccan tradition, you grow up in the US and you know what happens to a lot of kids in high school( drugs, sex...) its not easy to raise kids in the US, Most of them have no respect for there parents, also think about the third generation and their kids. "

this is a valid point and one I agree with. I wish that their was more opportunity for either one of us there but there isnt. Living with his mother is not an option so we would have to be totally self sufficient, which, we can be here, but not there. I would have no qualms to live there but children are here and still need me too much. After some years of prosper here we can invest in a place there maybe and go back but I dont forsee us living there at least for another 8 years, minimal. We will just have to be content visiting.

Edited April 9, 2009 by sandrila

[sandinista! 1,816]

I totally agree, It depends on the environment (parents, home life, friends, school).... I live in Raleigh NC we have big Muslim community and I see what's going on, a lot of kids will act good in front of there parents and when there parents a not around guess what.....I use to go to Friday prayers and meet a lot of young friend then meet them again Friday night at club nights or a bar. I always feel bad for doing that but they didn't...

I want my kids to grow up in Morocco then when they get older they can come to the state live or work or do what ever, I want them to have a solid ground and options.

As a Muslim I worry a lot about the future of my next generation, not like most American they just want to see there kids happy. I want to make sure Allah is happy first then my kids then me. That's my opinion.

yeah, that makes such a huge difference between them and you.

[Sandrila 1]

Just to add that my husband insists that any child we would have together will be going to Morocco at least for one full year

to live and learn about his country and Islam. I am not sure how it would work or if I would be able to allow my baby to go without me.

That notion is far off for us though