My wonderful medical experience at SLEC - Dec 12 and 13, 2007

[beng_and_carl 0]

hello my VJ family! Here's my wonderful medical experience (in bullet form) at SLEC, December 12 and 13, 2007 with Sis Mylene(cocoa) from WOF.

FIRST DAY, December 12, 2007

* Arrival = around 1PM at SLEC

* First Stop = the guard checked my passport, appointment letter (photocopy and original) from USE. he stamped the original and took the photocopy and stapled it to the PDS form. Gave me back the original appointment letter and i kept it. Then, he gave me the PDS form with the photocopy of my appointment letter and instructed me to fill it up inside. LESSON: be nice to Kuya Guard and thank him after. Ready and arrange the ff before you face him: Passport, Original and Photocopy of your Appointment Letter and your Smile.

* Fill Up the PDS form and check it twice if everything is well-written/answered and signed. Lesson: Don't rush. Presence of Mind and write everything well. If you wrote something wrong, never panic, put a line between that and put your initials (like i did, hehe). Use Black Pen. All the things listed in the medical experience in Sheriff Uling's Guidelines are still accurate. Thanks po!

*5th Floor for the payment at the cashier - P6090 ($145 x P43). Lesson: Prepare your payment beforehand so that it will be faster on the paying session. hehe.

*Submitted the duly accomplished PDS form to the US Reception which is right in front of the area where you can fill up your PDS form (sorry, i forgot the right term on that location. hihihi). The lady asked for my 1pc passport (2x2) picture and asked me to sign some documents. she actually asked me to sign many times coz my signature at first were not that very similar to my signature in the passport. so, i did it and she finally accepted it after 2 tries. After submitting the docs, the nice lady from SLEC told us to proceed to the door at her back for the picture taking. I jokingly asked her if I can smile on that picture coz i didn't smile on my visa pics coz that's the requirement. and then, she smiled and said yes. Lesson: Never mind the girls if they are not smiling. They are busy typing the info from the PDS forms on their table. Imagine yourself on that job - you're concentrating on something and some people are bothering you. hehe. and most of all, dont forget to say thank you.

* Xray at the 3rd Floor, around 1.30PM. We used the elevator coz I was lazy using the stairs. We went to the counter and showed the nice lady our passports and PDS forms. She told ate mylene to proceed to the 4th Floor for the Lab tests (i think, to save time). while the lady was checking my docs, i told her that she's wearing a nice santa hat. she smiled and laughed. we had some moment of chikka. hehe. then, i proceed to the dressing room. i disrobed my shirt and bra and wore the lab gown. then, proceed to the xray room. the lady was nice. Lesson: Show your smile and say thank you. Don't be nervous and follow the instructions of the lady in the xray room. Breathe DEEPLY!

* Laboratory at the 4th Floor, 1.45PM. I gave my passport and PDS form to the counter. after 5 minutes, she gave me a vial and a container with my names on them and i went to the laboratory room. nobody was there that time so i said hello loudly inside the room.. hehe...then, i checked outside and somebody signaled me to wait for a while. then, a tall and petite nurse attended me. she did the blood extraction and it was not that bad. then, i went to the wash room at the most right side of the room. she told me to leave my things outside. after that, i gave the container to her with my urine and i went back to sit down in front of the counter to wait for the result of my pregnancy test. I got the result which is negative after 15 minutes. Lesson: Just be patient waiting for the result. Leave your things outside the cubicle of the CR when you get your urine. Don't be nervous during the blood extraction. Say thank you to the nurse who attended you.

* Vital Signs at the 5th Floor, around 2.10PM. I submitted my docs at the US counter at the right side facing them. Then, after almost 2 mins of waiting, I was called for the Height and Weight. And then, the same lady assisted me to Eye Check up room. She was nice and gentle. After that, I waited for another 2 mins for the blood pressure. After that, I submitted my docs to the US counter and Kuya gave me a priority number for the Physical Exam. I was assigned to Room 7, Number 5. So nervous. hehehe. Lesson: Be attentive. You might not hear your names to be called coz it was noisy inside that area.

* Physical exam at Room 7, around 2.30. I waited for almost 20 mins and when the doctor inside the room said, NEXT, i calmed and composed my self. She asked me about my medical history and if i have other sickness that she didn't mention. So, i told her that i have a hyperthyroidism. the doctor couldn't believe that i have that illness coz the main symptom of the person who's been affected by it gets thin. i explained to her everything and she was even laughing a bit coz im fat to have that illness, meaning, it's not obvious. hehe. and then, i also told her that i had a typhoid fever in year 2000. the doctor repeated some questions at the last part of our conversation. i guess, it's a trick to check my consistencies. then, she told me to remove all the things im wearing and lay down on the bed after. i did it fastly though i was a really nervous. then, i told her that im ok and ready, she checked my eyes, some parts of the body, my wrists (for suicide attempts), breasts and of course, my booty. my heart was jumping that moment. hahaha.. and then, that's it! she told me to dress up and asked me some last questions. after that, i thanked her and even greeted her merry christmas. then went outside. Lesson: Be honest with your answers. The doctors know if you are saying false info. Just relax and be as natural as you are.

* Immunization Interview, 3.05PM. I showed my PDS form and passport to the counter and the doctor inside the room at the right side called me. she asked some questions about my vaccine history and then, she discussed the vaccines that will be given to me on the next day. Lesson: Ask something about the vaccines that the doctor told you.

* Check-out counter, 3.15PM. I gave them my PDS form. the nice kuyas there gave me an appointment slip and my official receipt. I was told to be back at 1.30PM the next day. I have my passport, appointment slip and receipt that time.

SECOND DAY, December 13, 2007

* I arrived SLEC around 11AM. I was so early that time coz I was so anxious to get my result. hahaha... Lesson: Arrive on the time of your appointment if you dont want to stay and wait in SLEC.

* I showed my appointment slip to Kuya Guard 1 with my passport. He instructed to present it kuya guard 2 at the right side of the entrance door. then, kuya guard 2 checked my appointment slip, my record in their database and told me that my appointment time will be 1.30PM. So, i just asked him if i can proceed to the 5th floor to meet sis mylene (cocoa) who is having her PE (coz she didnt have her PE yesterday coz of her red flag. BIG LESSON!)

and he let me. but he put a stamp first to my appointment slip - IMMUNIZATION ROOM.

* I went to 5th Floor and met sis mylene. I also met sis joy, same interview date as mine . after sis mylene's PE, we went out together for our lunch. Lesson: make sure you have your stamp on your hand so that it will be easy for you to re-enter the SLEC premises when you go out. and have a nice meal. hehe.

* Went back around 12.35PM, 2nd Floor, Immunization Area. I gave them my appointment slip and receipt. kuya on duty checked my papers and he told me that my results are still for signature by the doctor who did my physical exam. the doctor will be arriving 1.30PM onwards. so, i waited for more than an hour. made some chikka to some people beside me. the nice kuyas signaled me that my docs were signed already and wait for my name to be called in the immunization room. after 5 to 10 minutes, my name was called and i went inside. the nurses there were nice and smiling. then, it was my time now for my vaccine. the nurse who facilitated my vaccination was joking me if my fiance is handsome and i gave him a big YES!!! and i told him "kuya, you look like archie alemanya." he smiled and laughed. then, he gave me 2 shots for varicella and MMR. i even shared to kuya the amazing love story of me and carl. so that i will be calmed during the vaccination session. hehe. then, after my vaccination, i thanked them and greeted them a merry xmas. Lesson: Be attentive coz you might not here your names being called. Relax and smile.

* Releasing section around 1.30PM. I waited for more than hour for my name to be called again. Then, i was called in Counter A. Kuya there asked for my passport and 2 pcs passport pic and i gave them to him. After an hour, my name was called again in Counter C. Ate was nice. she asked me the ff questions: when is my interview, last day of period, why i was confined last September and i told her because of stress; then, if my names, birthday and passport number are correct in the vaccination record, and i said yes po, ma'am. she explained to me to me that i should hand carry my xray film during my travel to the US coz sometimes, it is being asked in the POE. she also asked me if was the one in the picture (the one taken during the first at the US Reception). and i said yes. hehe. and lastly, she informed me that they will be the one to forward the results and my passport to the US Embassy for my interview. And then, hola, that's it. I thanked her and greeted her Merry Christmas! and she replied me the same with her smile. Lesson: Patience is a virtue. Just wait for your name to be called. Be attentive. Thank the one who gave you the result.

* FINISHED around 4.15PM. I bought the xray holder, P50 each outside. I thanked Kuya Guard and greeted them and the vendors a very merry christmas. I was sooooooo happpppppyyyy!! and when i was walking outside, i saw the guys in the immunization counter and the one who gave me the vaccine - kuya archie alemania. hehe. they greeted me and i thanked them with my big smile. then, lastly, my merry xmas greetings. hehe.

General Observation:

1. People in SLEC were nice. Just be polite and follow their instructions well.

2. The other floors were not that cold except for the Ground Floor - the releasing section area.

Tips/Suggestions:

1. go to SLEC in the afternoon, 1PM.

2. always show your SMILE to the SLEC

3. make your receipt and passport handy

4. always give them your warm THANK YOU every after any procedure

5. remember, patience is a virture

6. be confident, smart and attentive all the time

7. be polite most of the time

8. when you're feeling bored if you're alone, chat with others beside you. but not too much coz you might miss your name being called in the speaker

9. prepare your things at least a day before your medical exam

10. if you are commuting, the fastest and most convenient transportation is the LRT 1. drop off at the UN Avenue Station. cross the taft ave and proceed to the WHO side. turn left at the equitable-pci bank building. and walk for less than a minute and you'll see the gray bldg of SLEC. you'll notice it easily coz there are a lot of people selling some plastic cases outside. hehe.

11. be on-time and or even earlier

12. never have your first of medical if you still have a red flag. you cannot have your physical exam on that day.

13. remember your last day of menstruation. they always ask it.

14. eat well before your medical exam.

15. drink milk and buko juice weeks before your medical. big help for me.

16. most of all, pray a lot for guidance, strength and wisdom for the success of your medical exam. ask for prayers from your family, friends and VJ families.

THANKS to our Lord, Mama Mary and Papa God for the answered prayers. I prayed them for a successful medical exam for me and sis mylene. I also prayed that the SLEC people would be nice to me and it happened. Me and Carl would like to thank our family, friends and VJ and WOF families for the prayers.

Edited December 13, 2007 by beng_and_carl

[RandyandRina 2]

Congratulations!

~ Rina

[beng_and_carl 0]

One last tip, PM the VJers with the same time line as yours. You can be together during your medical exams and interview and share each other experiences.

:star:

[Eternal Love 2]

Thanks for sharing beng!!!! You're great~!!!!

[chuck_n_rose 0]

Thanks for the detailed info, very helpful. Good luck on interview.

[Frank+Jocelyn 1]

Great post. Thanks for taking the time. Good luck!

[ladylyn 0]

Thanks for the post.It's so helpful for everybody who are going to have their Medical Exams in St. Lukes.My hands got cold while reading your post, though in my case i am still waiting for our NOA2, hehehe but i do thank you for the advices and tips Beng.It's really a good thing for us to learn about in advance.

By the way, how many days does it take for the medical exams to finish usually?

I would really appreciate any reply to this.

Thanks again Beng and Good Luck on your interview.We will pray for you.God Bless!

A Prosperous New Year to Everyone....

[beng_and_carl 0]

Thanks for the post.It's so helpful for everybody who are going to have their Medical Exams in St. Lukes.My hands got cold while reading your post, though in my case i am still waiting for our NOA2, hehehe but i do thank you for the advices and tips Beng.It's really a good thing for us to learn about in advance.

By the way, how many days does it take for the medical exams to finish usually?

I would really appreciate any reply to this.

Thanks again Beng and Good Luck on your interview.We will pray for you.God Bless!

A Prosperous New Year to Everyone....

Thanks a lot sis! Well, normally, it takes 2 days. first day - xray, laboratory - urine and blood, vital stats, physical exam and immunization interview. second day - immunization and releasing.

HAPPY NEW YEAR po!

you can add me on your ym list. just check my ym id in my profile.

Thanks po ulet! God bless...

[ETEEANDME 0]

hello my VJ family! Here's my wonderful medical experience (in bullet form) at SLEC, December 12 and 13, 2007 with Sis Mylene(cocoa) from WOF.

FIRST DAY, December 12, 2007

* Arrival = around 1PM at SLEC

* First Stop = the guard checked my passport, appointment letter (photocopy and original) from USE. he stamped the original and took the photocopy and stapled it to the PDS form. Gave me back the original appointment letter and i kept it. Then, he gave me the PDS form with the photocopy of my appointment letter and instructed me to fill it up inside. LESSON: be nice to Kuya Guard and thank him after. Ready and arrange the ff before you face him: Passport, Original and Photocopy of your Appointment Letter and your Smile.

* Fill Up the PDS form and check it twice if everything is well-written/answered and signed. Lesson: Don't rush. Presence of Mind and write everything well. If you wrote something wrong, never panic, put a line between that and put your initials (like i did, hehe). Use Black Pen. All the things listed in the medical experience in Sheriff Uling's Guidelines are still accurate. Thanks po!

*5th Floor for the payment at the cashier - P6090 ($145 x P43). Lesson: Prepare your payment beforehand so that it will be faster on the paying session. hehe.

*Submitted the duly accomplished PDS form to the US Reception which is right in front of the area where you can fill up your PDS form (sorry, i forgot the right term on that location. hihihi). The lady asked for my 1pc passport (2x2) picture and asked me to sign some documents. she actually asked me to sign many times coz my signature at first were not that very similar to my signature in the passport. so, i did it and she finally accepted it after 2 tries. After submitting the docs, the nice lady from SLEC told us to proceed to the door at her back for the picture taking. I jokingly asked her if I can smile on that picture coz i didn't smile on my visa pics coz that's the requirement. and then, she smiled and said yes. Lesson: Never mind the girls if they are not smiling. They are busy typing the info from the PDS forms on their table. Imagine yourself on that job - you're concentrating on something and some people are bothering you. hehe. and most of all, dont forget to say thank you.

* Xray at the 3rd Floor, around 1.30PM. We used the elevator coz I was lazy using the stairs. We went to the counter and showed the nice lady our passports and PDS forms. She told ate mylene to proceed to the 4th Floor for the Lab tests (i think, to save time). while the lady was checking my docs, i told her that she's wearing a nice santa hat. she smiled and laughed. we had some moment of chikka. hehe. then, i proceed to the dressing room. i disrobed my shirt and bra and wore the lab gown. then, proceed to the xray room. the lady was nice. Lesson: Show your smile and say thank you. Don't be nervous and follow the instructions of the lady in the xray room. Breathe DEEPLY!

* Laboratory at the 4th Floor, 1.45PM. I gave my passport and PDS form to the counter. after 5 minutes, she gave me a vial and a container with my names on them and i went to the laboratory room. nobody was there that time so i said hello loudly inside the room.. hehe...then, i checked outside and somebody signaled me to wait for a while. then, a tall and petite nurse attended me. she did the blood extraction and it was not that bad. then, i went to the wash room at the most right side of the room. she told me to leave my things outside. after that, i gave the container to her with my urine and i went back to sit down in front of the counter to wait for the result of my pregnancy test. I got the result which is negative after 15 minutes. Lesson: Just be patient waiting for the result. Leave your things outside the cubicle of the CR when you get your urine. Don't be nervous during the blood extraction. Say thank you to the nurse who attended you.

* Vital Signs at the 5th Floor, around 2.10PM. I submitted my docs at the US counter at the right side facing them. Then, after almost 2 mins of waiting, I was called for the Height and Weight. And then, the same lady assisted me to Eye Check up room. She was nice and gentle. After that, I waited for another 2 mins for the blood pressure. After that, I submitted my docs to the US counter and Kuya gave me a priority number for the Physical Exam. I was assigned to Room 7, Number 5. So nervous. hehehe. Lesson: Be attentive. You might not hear your names to be called coz it was noisy inside that area.

* Physical exam at Room 7, around 2.30. I waited for almost 20 mins and when the doctor inside the room said, NEXT, i calmed and composed my self. She asked me about my medical history and if i have other sickness that she didn't mention. So, i told her that i have a hyperthyroidism. the doctor couldn't believe that i have that illness coz the main symptom of the person who's been affected by it gets thin. i explained to her everything and she was even laughing a bit coz im fat to have that illness, meaning, it's not obvious. hehe. and then, i also told her that i had a typhoid fever in year 2000. the doctor repeated some questions at the last part of our conversation. i guess, it's a trick to check my consistencies. then, she told me to remove all the things im wearing and lay down on the bed after. i did it fastly though i was a really nervous. then, i told her that im ok and ready, she checked my eyes, some parts of the body, my wrists (for suicide attempts), breasts and of course, my booty. my heart was jumping that moment. hahaha.. and then, that's it! she told me to dress up and asked me some last questions. after that, i thanked her and even greeted her merry christmas. then went outside. Lesson: Be honest with your answers. The doctors know if you are saying false info. Just relax and be as natural as you are.

* Immunization Interview, 3.05PM. I showed my PDS form and passport to the counter and the doctor inside the room at the right side called me. she asked some questions about my vaccine history and then, she discussed the vaccines that will be given to me on the next day. Lesson: Ask something about the vaccines that the doctor told you.

* Check-out counter, 3.15PM. I gave them my PDS form. the nice kuyas there gave me an appointment slip and my official receipt. I was told to be back at 1.30PM the next day. I have my passport, appointment slip and receipt that time.

SECOND DAY, December 13, 2007

* I arrived SLEC around 11AM. I was so early that time coz I was so anxious to get my result. hahaha... Lesson: Arrive on the time of your appointment if you dont want to stay and wait in SLEC.

* I showed my appointment slip to Kuya Guard 1 with my passport. He instructed to present it kuya guard 2 at the right side of the entrance door. then, kuya guard 2 checked my appointment slip, my record in their database and told me that my appointment time will be 1.30PM. So, i just asked him if i can proceed to the 5th floor to meet sis mylene (cocoa) who is having her PE (coz she didnt have her PE yesterday coz of her red flag. BIG LESSON!)

and he let me. but he put a stamp first to my appointment slip - IMMUNIZATION ROOM.

* I went to 5th Floor and met sis mylene. I also met sis joy, same interview date as mine . after sis mylene's PE, we went out together for our lunch. Lesson: make sure you have your stamp on your hand so that it will be easy for you to re-enter the SLEC premises when you go out. and have a nice meal. hehe.

* Went back around 12.35PM, 2nd Floor, Immunization Area. I gave them my appointment slip and receipt. kuya on duty checked my papers and he told me that my results are still for signature by the doctor who did my physical exam. the doctor will be arriving 1.30PM onwards. so, i waited for more than an hour. made some chikka to some people beside me. the nice kuyas signaled me that my docs were signed already and wait for my name to be called in the immunization room. after 5 to 10 minutes, my name was called and i went inside. the nurses there were nice and smiling. then, it was my time now for my vaccine. the nurse who facilitated my vaccination was joking me if my fiance is handsome and i gave him a big YES!!! and i told him "kuya, you look like archie alemanya." he smiled and laughed. then, he gave me 2 shots for varicella and MMR. i even shared to kuya the amazing love story of me and carl. so that i will be calmed during the vaccination session. hehe. then, after my vaccination, i thanked them and greeted them a merry xmas. Lesson: Be attentive coz you might not here your names being called. Relax and smile.

* Releasing section around 1.30PM. I waited for more than hour for my name to be called again. Then, i was called in Counter A. Kuya there asked for my passport and 2 pcs passport pic and i gave them to him. After an hour, my name was called again in Counter C. Ate was nice. she asked me the ff questions: when is my interview, last day of period, why i was confined last September and i told her because of stress; then, if my names, birthday and passport number are correct in the vaccination record, and i said yes po, ma'am. she explained to me to me that i should hand carry my xray film during my travel to the US coz sometimes, it is being asked in the POE. she also asked me if was the one in the picture (the one taken during the first at the US Reception). and i said yes. hehe. and lastly, she informed me that they will be the one to forward the results and my passport to the US Embassy for my interview. And then, hola, that's it. I thanked her and greeted her Merry Christmas! and she replied me the same with her smile. Lesson: Patience is a virtue. Just wait for your name to be called. Be attentive. Thank the one who gave you the result.

* FINISHED around 4.15PM. I bought the xray holder, P50 each outside. I thanked Kuya Guard and greeted them and the vendors a very merry christmas. I was sooooooo happpppppyyyy!! and when i was walking outside, i saw the guys in the immunization counter and the one who gave me the vaccine - kuya archie alemania. hehe. they greeted me and i thanked them with my big smile. then, lastly, my merry xmas greetings. hehe.

General Observation:

1. People in SLEC were nice. Just be polite and follow their instructions well.

2. The other floors were not that cold except for the Ground Floor - the releasing section area.

Tips/Suggestions:

1. go to SLEC in the afternoon, 1PM.

2. always show your SMILE to the SLEC

3. make your receipt and passport handy

4. always give them your warm THANK YOU every after any procedure

5. remember, patience is a virture

6. be confident, smart and attentive all the time

7. be polite most of the time

8. when you're feeling bored if you're alone, chat with others beside you. but not too much coz you might miss your name being called in the speaker

9. prepare your things at least a day before your medical exam

10. if you are commuting, the fastest and most convenient transportation is the LRT 1. drop off at the UN Avenue Station. cross the taft ave and proceed to the WHO side. turn left at the equitable-pci bank building. and walk for less than a minute and you'll see the gray bldg of SLEC. you'll notice it easily coz there are a lot of people selling some plastic cases outside. hehe.

11. be on-time and or even earlier

12. never have your first of medical if you still have a red flag. you cannot have your physical exam on that day.

13. remember your last day of menstruation. they always ask it.

14. eat well before your medical exam.

15. drink milk and buko juice weeks before your medical. big help for me.

16. most of all, pray a lot for guidance, strength and wisdom for the success of your medical exam. ask for prayers from your family, friends and VJ families.

THANKS to our Lord, Mama Mary and Papa God for the answered prayers. I prayed them for a successful medical exam for me and sis mylene. I also prayed that the SLEC people would be nice to me and it happened. Me and Carl would like to thank our family, friends and VJ and WOF families for the prayers.

congratulations to you...i enjoy reading your journey at slec . this sure is a great help in any way to those who will have their medical exam soon, to have less anxious about the different procedures. Thank you and good luck god bless us all!

[marie_9 0]

* Arrival = around 1PM at SLEC

* First Stop = the guard checked my passport, appointment letter (photocopy and original) from USE. he stamped the original and took the photocopy and stapled it to the PDS form. Gave me back the original appointment letter and i kept it. Then, he gave me the PDS form with the photocopy of my appointment letter and instructed me to fill it up inside. LESSON: be nice to Kuya Guard and thank him after. Ready and arrange the ff before you face him: Passport, Original and Photocopy of your Appointment Letter and your Smile.

Hi beng and carl.. pls make it clear to me what kind of APPOINTMENT LETTER is that, u said its from the USE? is that really an appointment letter for the medical exam? Am asking this because my husband (in US) received the Packet 4 but no medical date and no appointment letter like that for the medical. Am just really confused cuz i always in medical experience posts that the guard will ask for that appointment letter.

[Roserick 0]

Hi beng and carl.. pls make it clear to me what kind of APPOINTMENT LETTER is that, u said its from the USE? is that really an appointment letter for the medical exam? Am asking this because my husband (in US) received the Packet 4 but no medical date and no appointment letter like that for the medical. Am just really confused cuz i always in medical experience posts that the guard will ask for that appointment letter.

Well your are asking a K-Visa applicant...

Their Packet 4 arrive in the Philippines 1st before IR-CR..

It can be different..

[marie_9 0]

Hi beng and carl.. pls make it clear to me what kind of APPOINTMENT LETTER is that, u said its from the USE? is that really an appointment letter for the medical exam? Am asking this because my husband (in US) received the Packet 4 but no medical date and no appointment letter like that for the medical. Am just really confused cuz i always in medical experience posts that the guard will ask for that appointment letter.

Well your are asking a K-Visa applicant...

Their Packet 4 arrive in the Philippines 1st before IR-CR..

It can be different..

but I think they receive an appointment letter also and that's what am asking about..

[Roserick 0]

but I think they receive an appointment letter also and that's what am asking about..

Oh.. My bad..

YES!! All Beneficiaries gets Packet 4... One way or another..

[marie_9 0]

but I think they receive an appointment letter also and that's what am asking about..

Oh.. My bad..

YES!! All Beneficiaries gets Packet 4... One way or another..

Diba.. and how come our packet doesn't include appointment letter for the medical, not even a medical exam date!! what to give then to the guard is he ask for an appointment letter? that is my question..

[Roserick 0]

Diba.. and how come our packet doesn't include appointment letter for the medical, not even a medical exam date!! what to give then to the guard is he ask for an appointment letter? that is my question..

I think does are our packet.. I think your packet will be similar to ours..

If you checked.. Our packet came from the NVC.. I think your packet will come from the USEM manila.

Our packet didn't even contain any SLEC info.. and the packet that the beneficiaries has been getting includes SLEC info..

So I say similar appointment letter.. Not the same..