is this a red flag?

[lion of judah 0]

i once applied for a visitors visa and needless to say, i was denied, however my concern is that, at that time i was asked on the form to list previous employment,which i did, now in regard to this fiance petition, does it really matter if i leave out one of those place of employment i listed previously?my fiance and i have submitted and one of those place wasn't listed. i am extremely worried that they might look at the visitor visa application, then the petition and ask why i listed that place before and didn't now.

[Otto 83]

Why is this place not listed?

By not listing it, does it create a gap in your employment timeline/history?

[lion of judah 0]

that employer was the bully type, and on the day i left we had a huge quarrel, harsh words exchanged. so i didnt want to include him and then have him fabricate any stories or cause my process to slow down. not a huge gap cuz i was only there for like five months

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

that employer was the bully type, and on the day i left we had a huge quarrel, harsh words exchanged. so i didnt want to include him and then have him fabricate any stories or cause my process to slow down. not a huge gap cuz i was only there for like five months

They don't generally call your employers. They don't care what sort of relationship you had with your boss. However, they may care if previous information you gave them does not match current information. You can bet your previous visa application is in the computer, so they'll know about it.

When it comes to things like proof of ongoing relationship, you have the opportunity to cherry pick information that will help your case. When it comes to answering questions like "List ALL employment", you have to follow the instructions and give them the information they ask for, even if you think it won't reflect well on you. The consular officer only needs to find ONE discrepancy in your documents that USCIS didn't know about when they approved the petition, and that's enough to send the petition back to USCIS with a recommendation that it be denied.

You're going to have to list those jobs again on the DS-230, except this time you're going to need to go back 10 years. I recommend you include the employer you left out on the I-129F. If it comes up at the interview just say it was an oversight. The CO isn't likely to think it's significant enough to have caused the petition to be denied, and they'll let it slide.

[lion of judah 0]

i will do that. is there a great deal of emphasis placed on this?

[lion of judah 0]

i was only at that job for a short period, i cant even recall my start date, so i still would have an issue adding that correctly, cuz i probably would list a date that didnt match with the one i listed previously. here comes the migraine!

[thongd4me 69]

i was only at that job for a short period, i cant even recall my start date, so i still would have an issue adding that correctly, cuz i probably would list a date that didnt match with the one i listed previously. here comes the migraine!

I would go with Jim's advice. The fact that it was a short period should probably make the chances of them calling the boss close to zero.

A gap, however, is better closed than left open. If there's difference with your I-129F history, not a big problem given the time period.

They're not looking for a job reference or recommendation, just employment history.

[lion of judah 0]

them calling is not even my biggest concern, cuz if they did and he even fabricated, i have no police records and have never been involved in any illegal activities. i think my biggest fear is that i mentioned this place on a b2 visa application, now i genuinely dont remember the timeframe and such, so i didnt list it when i filed g325a. i dont know if they will look back on the old b2 application, then think i am lying willfully to them

[meauxna 15]

i dont know if they will look back on the old b2 application, then think i am lying willfully to them

You are/did. Now you have the chance to make a "timely retraction".

This is one reason you don't lie or misrepresent on the forms; the question invariably comes up a 2nd or 3rd time. If you tell the truth, it's easier to remember.

You don't have to have it accurate down to the date; put the most reasonable estimate of your work time that you can.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

that employer was the bully type, and on the day i left we had a huge quarrel, harsh words exchanged. so i didnt want to include him and then have him fabricate any stories or cause my process to slow down. not a huge gap cuz i was only there for like five months

These aren't reference checks. However employment history is not normally considered "material fact" unless it was some sort of employment which would cause a visa to be denied, an illegal occupation for example. I wouldn't worry about it too much but it is better just to be honest. They do not care hwether your former boss likes you or not.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

that employer was the bully type, and on the day i left we had a huge quarrel, harsh words exchanged. so i didnt want to include him and then have him fabricate any stories or cause my process to slow down. not a huge gap cuz i was only there for like five months

They don't generally call your employers. They don't care what sort of relationship you had with your boss. However, they may care if previous information you gave them does not match current information. You can bet your previous visa application is in the computer, so they'll know about it.

When it comes to things like proof of ongoing relationship, you have the opportunity to cherry pick information that will help your case. When it comes to answering questions like "List ALL employment", you have to follow the instructions and give them the information they ask for, even if you think it won't reflect well on you. The consular officer only needs to find ONE discrepancy in your documents that USCIS didn't know about when they approved the petition, and that's enough to send the petition back to USCIS with a recommendation that it be denied.

You're going to have to list those jobs again on the DS-230, except this time you're going to need to go back 10 years. I recommend you include the employer you left out on the I-129F. If it comes up at the interview just say it was an oversight. The CO isn't likely to think it's significant enough to have caused the petition to be denied, and they'll let it slide.

Not all consulates use the DS230, Jim. Not sure about Jamaica, Ukraine defintely does not. He can correct it at that time if they do OR he can correct the G-325a at the interview. Since it is not material as to whether the petition is approved there should be no problems with correcting the error/omission.

[lion of judah 0]

how would i go about correcting it?

[AbbynSheryl 0]

BTW trust me immigration will open ur old file to compare? no if and or buts, good luck.

be honest and that is all i can say, abby n sheryl

[Kathryn41 3,205]

You can correct it on any future forms you fill out - you will have the opportunity - and if you want, at the interview you can say that you need to add another employer to your list that was omitted when you filled it out. It shouldn't be a problem or a red flag but you will want to be completely accurate from here on in when dealing with immigration.

Edited September 6, 2009 by Kathryn41

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

how would i go about correcting it?

when you go to the interview, just tell them you ommitted a job on the G-325a and would like to make a correction for the record. They should have all the documents sent and allow you to do that. I filled out all the forms for my wife and sons and made an error on the birthdate of one of our sons and an error on the job dates on hers. (she had signed blank forms and then I sent her copies of what I completed)No big deal, but it bothered her so she asked and they allowed her to line out the error and write in the correct information.

Again, it is not a "material matter" and will not cause a denial or bar or anything like that. It is NOT visa fraud. Worst case, they will catch the discrepancy and send an RFE for a corrected G-325a but I doubt it. Likely they would compare the two and see it is not an imporatant issue and let it go.

But do not omit this stuff in the future if you can, they really do not care about your former boss or job or persoanl relationships. Best to be accurate

Edited September 6, 2009 by Gary and Alla