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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Hi Everyone,

i have a story like most of you - we want to get married and want to make it fast and legal.

I have a question as I see a marriage variant that seems so obvious and simple to me but since i can't see many people using this approach i started to doubt if it is really as easy/legal as it seems:

what if i arrive with my b1/b2 visa (it's a multi entry visa type valid for 2 years. this visa is for tourism and business visits (non working visa though)) and we get married in the US? Will it be ok with the US authorities?

Neither my fiancee nor me want any violations or problems, we are lawful, i have a perfect visa history and definitely don't want any illegal immigration issues.

if any has any information or experience in getting married that way - please share.

one more question - if i get married during a visit with b1/b2 visa and then return home and then travel to the US again - will i be admitted on my b1/b2 visa?

does applying for K1/K3 visa automatically cancel my b1/b2?

Thank you in advance,

kailey

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Posted
Hi Everyone,

i have a story like most of you - we want to get married and want to make it fast and legal.

I have a question as I see a marriage variant that seems so obvious and simple to me but since i can't see many people using this approach i started to doubt if it is really as easy/legal as it seems:

what if i arrive with my b1/b2 visa (it's a multi entry visa type valid for 2 years. this visa is for tourism and business visits (non working visa though)) and we get married in the US? Will it be ok with the US authorities?

Neither my fiancee nor me want any violations or problems, we are lawful, i have a perfect visa history and definitely don't want any illegal immigration issues.

if any has any information or experience in getting married that way - please share.

one more question - if i get married during a visit with b1/b2 visa and then return home and then travel to the US again - will i be admitted on my b1/b2 visa?

does applying for K1/K3 visa automatically cancel my b1/b2?

Thank you in advance,

kailey

Yes you can come over and get married in the US this is not a problem if you return to your home country. If you come over with the intention of getting married and staying this is illegal.

You should still be able to come over with your B1/B2 visa while things are being processed as long as you can prove on entry strong ties to your home country and they accept you are indeed just visiting.

California Service Center

Consulate: Vienna, Austria

01/09/2008: Marriage

01/22/2009: I-130 Sent

02/10/2009: I-130 NOA1

02/12/2009: I-129 Sent

03/03/2009: I-129 NOA1

03/16/2009: I-130 NOA2 I-129 NOA2

NVC Journey CR-1

04/03/2009: NVC Received and Case number assigned

04/06/2009: IV bill/AOS Fee bill generated (for son)

04/06/2009: Pay I-864 Fee Bill online (for son)Paid I-864 Fee Bill online (for son)

04/07/2009: IV bill/AOS Fee bill (for son) status shows paid

04/08/2009: IV bill/AOS Fee bill generated (for me) Pay I-864 Fee Bill online (for me)

04/09/2009: IV bill/AOS Fee bill (for me) status shows paid

04/09/2009: Received I-864/DS-230 package

04/28/2009: Send completed I-864 package Send completed DS-230 package

05/18/2009: Package entered into system

05/27/2009: AVR says RFE sent by email

06/02/2009: Received RFE by email Sent RFE DHL

06/08/2009: NVC received RFE

06/10/2009: RFE entered into AVR

06/19/2009: Case Completed at NVC

07/08/2009: NVC Left

Embassy Journey CR-1

07/12/2009: Received by embassy

08/24/2009: Medical

08/25/2009: Interview Date

08/26/2009: Visa in hand

09/14/2009: POE Boston Harbour

01/18/2011: I-751 sent to CSC

01/24/2011: NOA1

03/04/2011: Biometrics

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted

thank you for reply! that gives hope.

i posted my question and then read some of the forum stories and my heart sank to be honest - people wait for 6-8 months!!

just one thought that bothers me a bit - if it's really such a simple and obvious thing (going to your spouse on b1/b2 and marrying also by just being on b1/b2) - why do people here wait for K1/K3 for months ...

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Posted
thank you for reply! that gives hope.

i posted my question and then read some of the forum stories and my heart sank to be honest - people wait for 6-8 months!!

just one thought that bothers me a bit - if it's really such a simple and obvious thing (going to your spouse on b1/b2 and marrying also by just being on b1/b2) - why do people here wait for K1/K3 for months ...

B2 Visa's are not that easy to get. B2 visa's are for tourism, NOT TO GET MARRIED.

I got married in Nov 2007. It took 5 months to get my marriage cert so I could file the I-130 and I-129F. It took the USCIS 8 1/2 months to review and approve our petitions. Another month to go through NVC and get the interview out of the way. We need to file waivers, so I am looking at another year of processing.

If you only have to wait 6 months for your petition to be approved, consider yourself lucky.

THink about all the people on this forum who are filing the correct way ( I-130, K1 or K3) and then they hear of someone who wants to get married on a tourist Visa and bypass all the USCIS garbage. People wait for months because that is the legal proceedure.

Married March 9, 2013
NOA1 I-130 April 12, 2013

Transferred to TSC Nov 27, 2013
APPROVED March 18, 2014 FINALLY ! ! ! !! 11 MONTHS & 6 LONG DAYS FOR MY NOA2
Case shipped from TSC to NVC March 21, 2014
Rec'd NOA2 hard copy March 22, 2014
Case rec'd & Case Number assigned April 1, 2014
AMAZING !!!
PAID IV and AOS fees online April 5, 2014
Fees show paid/DS 260 avail. /DS260 submitted/AOS&IV pkg sent April 9, 2014
FEDEX delivered @ NVC April 11, 2014
Revised AOS pkg delivered April 15, 2014
AOS & IV rec'd& scanned in @ NVC April 15, 2014
Revised AOS scanned April 18, 2014
AOS checklist for income and IV pkg April 30, 2014 (checklist expected due to Lawyers mistakes)
DS260 accepted April 30, 2014
Checklist for Birth cert/police cert May 1, 2014
AOS accepted May 5, 2014

Birth cert scanned MAY 8, 2014

CASE COMPLETE JUNE 4, 2014 CC letter received via email June 11, 2014

INTERVIEW JULY 15, 2014

Waiver finally FedEx'd to Phoenix Lockbox August 21, 2014

WAIVER APPROVED December 17, 2014

Received Instruction Letter via email December 23, 2014

Final Embassy Appointment January 5, 2015 YAY !

Visa ISSUED January 12, 2015

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted
thank you for reply! that gives hope.

i posted my question and then read some of the forum stories and my heart sank to be honest - people wait for 6-8 months!!

just one thought that bothers me a bit - if it's really such a simple and obvious thing (going to your spouse on b1/b2 and marrying also by just being on b1/b2) - why do people here wait for K1/K3 for months ...

We wait because we are following the legal process. Like esposadetucho said, a tourist visa is for tourists to visit, not to get married and stay.

It is perfectly legal to come to the US on your tourist visa and get married. Stay for as long as the CO allows then return to your home country to finish the process.

As for being admitted after marriage, that is up to the CO. You can certainly use your B1/2 visa but being granted entry is not a guarentee.

Good luck.

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted

THink about all the people on this forum who are filing the correct way ( I-130, K1 or K3) and then they hear of someone who wants to get married on a tourist Visa and bypass all the USCIS garbage. People wait for months because that is the legal proceedure.

- If it is legal - than it's a good thing and must be used. if it is illegal than we won't use that way. but if it is perfectly legal it would be a bit stupid not to use it, don't you think?

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted

Thank you for reply.

I hope that our case will go smoothly and i wish all the people on that web site to have their cases approved in the quickest way!

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Posted
THink about all the people on this forum who are filing the correct way ( I-130, K1 or K3) and then they hear of someone who wants to get married on a tourist Visa and bypass all the USCIS garbage. People wait for months because that is the legal proceedure.

- If it is legal - than it's a good thing and must be used. if it is illegal than we won't use that way. but if it is perfectly legal it would be a bit stupid not to use it, don't you think?

I'm not sure 'STUPID' is an accurate word. watch what you say....

If you want to chance getting married and and then try to bypass the legal process.... more power to you..... IF you get denied entry on your B2 after you get married, you will have to explain the deniial in your interview..... You may not get denied, but I know a few couples who married and filed the proper papers and when they try to return to the US on the B2.... they got denied. It caused HUGE problems at their interview and caused more delays.

Im not sure if you think you have some bright idea that no one ever thought of......... But everyone on this forum is/has followed the LEGAL process and they are waiting or have waited however long it takes.

Married March 9, 2013
NOA1 I-130 April 12, 2013

Transferred to TSC Nov 27, 2013
APPROVED March 18, 2014 FINALLY ! ! ! !! 11 MONTHS & 6 LONG DAYS FOR MY NOA2
Case shipped from TSC to NVC March 21, 2014
Rec'd NOA2 hard copy March 22, 2014
Case rec'd & Case Number assigned April 1, 2014
AMAZING !!!
PAID IV and AOS fees online April 5, 2014
Fees show paid/DS 260 avail. /DS260 submitted/AOS&IV pkg sent April 9, 2014
FEDEX delivered @ NVC April 11, 2014
Revised AOS pkg delivered April 15, 2014
AOS & IV rec'd& scanned in @ NVC April 15, 2014
Revised AOS scanned April 18, 2014
AOS checklist for income and IV pkg April 30, 2014 (checklist expected due to Lawyers mistakes)
DS260 accepted April 30, 2014
Checklist for Birth cert/police cert May 1, 2014
AOS accepted May 5, 2014

Birth cert scanned MAY 8, 2014

CASE COMPLETE JUNE 4, 2014 CC letter received via email June 11, 2014

INTERVIEW JULY 15, 2014

Waiver finally FedEx'd to Phoenix Lockbox August 21, 2014

WAIVER APPROVED December 17, 2014

Received Instruction Letter via email December 23, 2014

Final Embassy Appointment January 5, 2015 YAY !

Visa ISSUED January 12, 2015

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Posted

People give her a break, she's not doing anything wrong by using a tourist visa to get married. It's no different than people from Canada/England travelling to the U.S visa-free and getting married - THEN GOING BACK TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY.

She never stated anything about staying in the U.S - in fact, she said she would leave and come back for visits in the future.

To the OP, people wait months for a K1 because it means you can marry and stay in the U.S without having to leave. People wait for a spousal visa when they're already married because it means they can join their spouse in the U.S without having to leave. The key is LIVING there, not marrying.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted

Gemmie, thank you for reading what i was writing :). I go from hope to despair here and back to hope.

Esposaditucho, maybe my English is confusing, sorry. I'm not a native speaker. The word 'stupid' was actually not personal but used in a general phrase and actualy about myself, please read my messages. Same thing about my question. And i wrote clearly that noone is going to violate anything. I read USCIS site, i saw an option, i wanted to use it. I came to ask for opinion, help and experiences of others. If you think it is not right - i respect your opinion, but please don't add to my words sth that was not there.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Filed: Other Timeline
Posted
- If it is legal - than it's a good thing and must be used. if it is illegal than we won't use that way. but if it is perfectly legal it would be a bit stupid not to use it, don't you think?

That's the thing though Kailey, it is not entirely legal, and you leave yourself open to possible denial of adjustment of status and deportation with no avenue of appeal, and then bannishment.

Yes it happens every day that people come to the US and lie to officials about their reason for being here. Then they apply to adjust status, their lie is found out, then they're sent packing.

Your choice if you want that possible outcome to your marriage, of if you'd rather do it the entirely legal way and wait it out in your home country.

divorced - April 2010 moved back to Ontario May 2010 and surrendered green card

PLEASE DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME OR EMAIL ME. I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT CURRENT US IMMIGRATION PROCEDURES!!!!!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Posted
- If it is legal - than it's a good thing and must be used. if it is illegal than we won't use that way. but if it is perfectly legal it would be a bit stupid not to use it, don't you think?

That's the thing though Kailey, it is not entirely legal, and you leave yourself open to possible denial of adjustment of status and deportation with no avenue of appeal, and then bannishment.

Yes it happens every day that people come to the US and lie to officials about their reason for being here. Then they apply to adjust status, their lie is found out, then they're sent packing.

Your choice if you want that possible outcome to your marriage, of if you'd rather do it the entirely legal way and wait it out in your home country.

Reba, that makes sense what you are saying.

Ok, then do you know if applying for K1 annuls automatically the existing b1/b2? Or i still can come to visit my fiancee while the K1 is being processed? Of course it's about visiting and returning back home in time.

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Moscow, Russia

I-129F Sent : 2009-06-22

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-06-25

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-09-24

NVC received: 2009-10-02

Yellow Envelope received: 2009-10-26

Interview - Dec 18, 2009 :)

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

You can still use your B1/2 visa, it's being admitted that is not a guarantee.

Filing a K-1 does not cancel the B visa. Just remember not to overstay.

Good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Posted (edited)

Kailey I think it's great that you can navigate through this thread when I think at least a few people misunderstood your intention (or maybe I did). My understanding of what you want to do:

1. Go to the U.S., using your B1/B2 visa and marry your fiance.

2. Apply for either a K3 or CR1 visa.

3. Wait as long as you can in the U.S. while this visa is being processed (again, using the B1/B2 visa to stay legally)

4. If the visa has not finished processing and your B1 runs out, you will return to your home country and wait for your interview there?

Plus folks, never once did she say that she wanted to get married in the U.S. and adjust status there.

As long as you don't overstay your B1/B2 and you keep in mind that you will have to return to your home country for your interview, that shouldn't be a problem.

Edited by trailmix
Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Wales
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Posted
Kailey I think it's great that you can navigate through this thread when I think at least a few people misunderstood your intention (or maybe I did). My understanding of what you want to do:

1. Go to the U.S., using your B1/B2 visa and marry your fiance.

2. Apply for either a K3 or CR1 visa.

3. Wait as long as you can in the U.S. while this visa is being processed (again, using the B1/B2 visa to stay legally)

4. If the visa has not finished processing and your B1 runs out, you will return to your home country and wait for your interview there?

Plus folks, never once did she say that she wanted to get married in the U.S. and adjust status there.

As long as you don't overstay your B1/B2 and you keep in mind that you will have to return to your home country for your interview, that shouldn't be a problem.

That's how I read it too. The K1 (fiance) visa is generally quicker than the K3/CR1 (spousal) visa, so that is a possible reason people may apply for this rather than marrying first and applying for a spousal visa. It also depends whether you mind having time apart while married (if you enter on the B1/2, marry, leave before your stay expires, wait for K3/CR1 approval to enter the US and stay with your husband permanently) or whether you'd rather not marry until you can be together from the start of your married life (by filiing the K1, visiting with the B1/2 while in progress, then entering with the K1, marrying within 90 days and staying). There is nothing wrong with marrying while on the tourist visa as long as you leave before your stay expires, but many choose to only marry on a K1 for reasons such as those I mentioned. If you were saying you wanted to enter with the tourist visa, marry and stay, that would be visa fraud (since you are using a non-immigrant visa to immigrate and get round having to get the correct visa), but I don't think that's what you meant.

Removing conditions:

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10/13/10 - NOA1 date, received 10/18

 
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