"Ready and willing to deposit a bond"

[thejoz 0]

I posted this in the consulate forum, but I need more info faster, please help me out..

So I just sent an email to my co-sponsor detailing the information necessary to get my beneficiary over here, and he was particularly unsettled by the item that says "I am ready and willing to deposit a bond, if necessary" in regards to making sure the beneficiary does not become a public charge, etc.

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He then goes on to say he doesn't have any money and can't do that, and quite frankly, I don't either. I have no idea how much money the consulate would even ask for if they were to do this, but quite frankly, there is nobody in my family who can just part with several hundred (or thousand?) dollars at the drop of a hat just because I have someone from Britain who wants to live here.

He's already planning to provide her free (ish) room and board, he makes over 50 grand a year, and would only be supporting three people (himself included).

What is the chance that London would actually ask or require us to do this? How common an occurance is this? Under what situation would the consulate actually require said bond to be posted?

I really hope this isn't a major stumbling block, because if it's common, we're gonna have a problem

[paulinespens 3]

I posted this in the consulate forum, but I need more info faster, please help me out..

So I just sent an email to my co-sponsor detailing the information necessary to get my beneficiary over here, and he was particularly unsettled by the item that says "I am ready and willing to deposit a bond, if necessary" in regards to making sure the beneficiary does not become a public charge, etc.

...

He then goes on to say he doesn't have any money and can't do that, and quite frankly, I don't either. I have no idea how much money the consulate would even ask for if they were to do this, but quite frankly, there is nobody in my family who can just part with several hundred (or thousand?) dollars at the drop of a hat just because I have someone from Britain who wants to live here.

He's already planning to provide her free (ish) room and board, he makes over 50 grand a year, and would only be supporting three people (himself included).

What is the chance that London would actually ask or require us to do this? How common an occurance is this? Under what situation would the consulate actually require said bond to be posted?

I really hope this isn't a major stumbling block, because if it's common, we're gonna have a problem

They won't ask for a bond. Englands a very low risk country for visa fraud.

The I-134 is not a legal binding document. Its when you file for your AOS with the I-864 that is a legal binding document.

As long as you don't become a public charge you got nothing to worry about.

[thejoz 0]

If the I-134 is not a binding document, then why does it say "This affidavit will be binding on me for 3 years, etc"?

[paulinespens 3]

If the I-134 is not a binding document, then why does it say "This affidavit will be binding on me for 3 years, etc"?

When you get married you file for AOS and fill out i-864 which is legally binding for when your other half files for there green card.Basically the I-134 is just used for the visa to make sure you can be supported for your 90 day stay on the K1 Visa.

Edited December 7, 2007 by paulinespens

[Boiler 45,519]

A K1 in London can self sponsor, saves the hassle completely. You will still need to do the I 864

[thejoz 0]

A K1 in London can self sponsor, saves the hassle completely. You will still need to do the I 864

Whoa, wait, what?

Where can you prove that? How is that possible?

[Mags 112]

A K1 in London can self sponsor, saves the hassle completely. You will still need to do the I 864

Whoa, wait, what?

Where can you prove that? How is that possible?

Having quite a few grand in savings means that the beneficiary can potentially self sponsor at the K-1 consulate part of the process. The beneficiary can't self sponsor for the AOS stage.

Edited December 7, 2007 by Mags

[thejoz 0]

Um. Last I knew, she had in the vicinity of 2-3 grand in Sterling saved up.

Or she should have, because we keep talking about her bringing 6-7 grand into the US. Well, it would translate to 6-7 grand in Dollars thanks to the wonderful exchange rate.

So if she in fact had that amount of money still saved, she could...what, fill out the I-134 for herself? Or not fill it out at all?

Is it possible to get something more 'official' that says this anywhere?

The AOS part doesn't bother me as much because nowhere on the I-864 does it require the US sponsor to put down any money anywhere in any circumstance.

[Boiler 45,519]

I think it may be a little bit more than that, but ask the Consulate what their current number is. I self sponsored, I was surprised it was so little.

6-7 thousand dollars may do it.

[no name 1]

Re-read the instructions on the I-134, it's all there!

[thejoz 0]

Re-read the instructions on the I-134, it's all there!

Where? The only things I see regarding the I-134, in the VJ "tips" section...

>The foreign fiance's income can NOT be counted on either affidavit (except when the foreign fiance has been

living with the fiance, married, and in the US for six months), however the foreign fiance's assets CAN be used if

they are readily convertible into cash. The USCIS is concerned ONLY about the US fiance's income/assets. (Note

that in other situations the foreign spouse's income MAY be counted on I-864 affidavit, such as foreigner in U.S.

on work or student visa who marries and then files for adjustment of status. IF the foreign spouse has LIVED IN

THE HOUSEHOLD of the U.S. spouse for at least 6 months, then his/her income CAN be counted. There are

NO situations involving fiance visa in which foreign spouse's income can be counted, as far as I know, when

interviewing for the fiance visa or when filing adjustment of status within 6 months of arrival in the US.)

>The US fiance is ALWAYS the primary sponsor, but may have a co-sponsor. If there is a co-sponsor, both the

US fiance and the co-sponsor will EACH have to fill out the affidavit I-134 or I-864 and EACH will have to provide

supporting documentation.

So, that information right there seems to tell me that she can't self-sponsor, she has to have me, the US fiance, do it.

If someone can point me to the official direction of where something, somewhere, says that London filers who happen to have sufficient cash to support themselves (for at least between K1 and AOS), then I'd appreciate that.

From everything I have personally read, I have not seen anything to refute the information I quoted above

[Boiler 45,519]

I think it may be a little bit more than that, but ask the Consulate what their current number is. I self sponsored, I was surprised it was so little.

6-7 thousand dollars may do it.

I presume you missed it, many others on here have as well.

[thejoz 0]

I think it may be a little bit more than that, but ask the Consulate what their current number is. I self sponsored, I was surprised it was so little.

6-7 thousand dollars may do it.

I presume you missed it, many others on here have as well.

I didn't miss it.

I would still like to know where, throughout any of this process, there is any explicit instruction or otherwise that says I (she) can circumvent the current instructions on the I-134 that request information on the US fiance, and require a US fiance's information.

I still have yet to see it. It's not that I don't believe you, I just haven't seen anything, anywhere, that says where this is a legal, admissible, route to gaining a K1 visa.

[Boiler 45,519]

So how did I get here.......

I had assumed it would be the normal mutipliers for capital, it is not.

And as I said it is a Consulate issue, contact the London Consulate. The Consulate do not issue the I 134, they do issue the K1.

If you do a search on this site it has come up many many times before.

Edited December 7, 2007 by Boiler

[thejoz 0]

So how did I get here.......

I had assumed it would be the normal mutipliers for capital, it is not.

And as I said it is a Consulate issue, contact the London Consulate. The Consulate do not issue the I 134, they do issue the K1.

If you do a search on this site it has come up many many times before.

So if I fire, say, an email to the London Consulate and say "Hello my fiancee thinks she has enough to sponsor herself, is this possible if so, how so?" or whatever?