All Americans marrying Arabs from Morrocco, Tunisia, Egypt, etc...

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I have been treated terrible by American men but that doesnt mean that 85 % of them are evil !

I beg to differ. 100% of the American men I have dated are evil. That's why I didnt pick one of them. Im quite happy with my Arab, 'slick' though he may be.

*yawn* again. someone comes along every few weeks to say this same tired story. don't you think everyone here has thought about all that already? everyone here is an adult and is fully capable (i hope) of making their own decisions. if they have huge red flags warning them against there husband, and they choose to ignore it...so be it. we'll all find out in two years from when they get their permanent green card, right?

Thank you!

VIVE SLICK ARABS

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

This is the problem with women. When a woman trys to help another woman for now or future problems or cautions they dont take heed until a sign pops up then they'll run back to this post. Im studying law in immigration and part of what im studying we look at reality statistics. In our essays and assignments we actually have to GO and take note of whats going on. We've gone on yahoo, hotmail live messanger, hi5, etc.. and we've found that 85% of men who were married to american citizens or british women they didnt indicate they were married they still left the discussion of marriage open between them and our "bate-girl" on the webcam. Usually these men came from Egypt and Jordan and they were the men who spoke a bit of correct english. I am so interested into studying this because women deserve great lives but when they dont follow signs its really frustrating bec you start to feel the pain of that woman whos going thru being USED by a man who married her to only help his family with money. Im not saying every woman here her husband or bf or fiance is going to use her. Im talking to the women who are scared and they are unsure about their husbands or fiances because of certain gut feelings. Follow your gut feelings ladies God gave them for a REASON. Im just saying remember what respect you have as a woman. If you enjoy christianity religion you stick with it dont change it for your husband. Don't grasp his culture 100% and forget about your own culture. You are your own person. Another thing I wanted to add. In our polls the Arab/ Muslim men they were more likely to respect the women with a clear sexual history meaning women who were virgins before marriage, didnt have boyfriends, etc.. Some of the things we talked with Arab men online were scary about how they would "marry a nice old lady" to use her for a green card status or "its ok if the girl is young she can marry again" its not RIGHT to take a young american girls virginity and visa! and then throw her out there for another man to take her. To the ladies who agree with me Im glad you saw my intentions through my posts, and to the ignorant ones God be with you. Only time will tell and I pray everyone here has a great husband or fiance he wont abuse you for his family or neglect you and married you for the RIGHT reasons. I have come to know an american woman very beautiful but she was used by a Morroccan man. He would speak arabic with his family and leave her out of all conversations he didnt make her a part of what they were discussing. His sisters would complain about her and she didnt even know it His family was great to her but she stayed in one room all day sometimes with his sisters while her husband was with friends he said he was going to do papers for immigration but he was in the cafe or net cafe talking to other women. By Gods grace she found a picture of another girl in his email account she was a French Morroccan woman who he was explaining personal details about his visa and found out this woman was his 1st wife and the american was his 2nd wife. Its not to scare you but its for you to use caution until you have a gut feeling he is truthful with you. Goodluck ladies Sarah_aziz5535@yahoo.com is my email if you need any further help

Hmmm... Now where have I seen this writing style ( I use it loosely)before?

[trailmix 77]

I would say that it is not the women marring men from MENA countries who are showing ignorance here.

Your post is rude and condescending, very poor judgement posting this.

[maggieNomar 0]

I have been treated terrible by American men but that doesnt mean that 85 % of them are evil !

I beg to differ. 100% of the American men I have dated are evil. That's why I didnt pick one of them. Im quite happy with my Arab, 'slick' though he may be.

*yawn* again. someone comes along every few weeks to say this same tired story. don't you think everyone here has thought about all that already? everyone here is an adult and is fully capable (i hope) of making their own decisions. if they have huge red flags warning them against there husband, and they choose to ignore it...so be it. we'll all find out in two years from when they get their permanent green card, right?

Thank you!

Yours is one of the slickest I know yassmine!!

Seriously though, this conversation has come up at least 5 times in the year I have been on VJ. We all know we are taking a chance and we all hope ours will not be one of the statistics. But if we spend all of our time trying to scrutinize their every move and word, the relationship will go down the toilet in a big hurry, and we'll be in the looney bin anyways. Thanks for the heads up, but we've heard this before.

Edited December 7, 2007 by Maggie724

[sarahaziz 0]

To the woman who was stating we're all adults ok we can all talk about ANYTHING if we're all

adults! If youre a child youre obviously gonna whine and have an attitude about MY subject

if you dont like my post or it didnt portray to you why are you posting on my subject? Why

are any of the women who have attitudes with my post even replying to me? If you think its

rude or doesnt imply to you then GET off my subject this was to help the women who have

those "gut-feelings" Its so much easier helping men in trouble they either listen or reject

it its simple as that! Obviously all the ones who have given a rude reply theyre the ones

with the insecurity and somehow they feel im speaking directly to them because they actually

have those feelings of being scared from their spouses and theyre becomming so defensive. I

didnt post to piss anybody off or get rude responses from ADULTS if you are secure in your

relationship Thank god for you and if youre not im obviously gonna get a rude response about

how you dont like me posting this information up. Wahrania you should have some respect girl

and actually read all my posts before writing an essay to me. Every country has their share

of loser men. Algeria TOO. My posts and advice is strictly to those who are debating to

marry or not if their spouses are rushing them for the visa process for unknown reasons, if

they are scared, going through divorce on here or are thinking about a divorce who knows

maybe some of the people thinking of divorce will look to my signs and find out they have a

keeper? Some girls who took their men as haraam "bad" men will understand they really do

love them. My posts can contribute to both. Men are seriously less complicated than MOST

women I have even have stalkers on here copying and pasting my old posts!...sheeesh!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

To the woman who was stating we're all adults ok we can all talk about ANYTHING if we're all

adults! If youre a child youre obviously gonna whine and have an attitude about MY subject

if you dont like my post or it didnt portray to you why are you posting on my subject? Why

are any of the women who have attitudes with my post even replying to me? If you think its

rude or doesnt imply to you then GET off my subject this was to help the women who have

those "gut-feelings" Its so much easier helping men in trouble they either listen or reject

it its simple as that! Obviously all the ones who have given a rude reply theyre the ones

with the insecurity and somehow they feel im speaking directly to them because they actually

have those feelings of being scared from their spouses and theyre becomming so defensive. I

didnt post to piss anybody off or get rude responses from ADULTS if you are secure in your

relationship Thank god for you and if youre not im obviously gonna get a rude response about

how you dont like me posting this information up. Wahrania you should have some respect girl

and actually read all my posts before writing an essay to me. Every country has their share

of loser men. Algeria TOO. My posts and advice is strictly to those who are debating to

marry or not if their spouses are rushing them for the visa process for unknown reasons, if

they are scared, going through divorce on here or are thinking about a divorce who knows

maybe some of the people thinking of divorce will look to my signs and find out they have a

keeper? Some girls who took their men as haraam "bad" men will understand they really do

love them. My posts can contribute to both. Men are seriously less complicated than MOST

women I have even have stalkers on here copying and pasting my old posts!...sheeesh!

You have portrayed all mena men as users....there are some great mena men who adore their spouses. You are way off base in your comments to these women and maybe will put doubts into some of these girls needlessly. Algerian women get used alot for papers by the way. The algerian man cant trust where an algerian girl has been if she isnt living with family. Its a disservice what you are doing.

Your writing style drastically changed.Anyone else notice that?I do not think you are Algerian at all frankly...I think you are a TROLL

[maggieNomar 0]

Your writing style drastically changed.Anyone else notice that?I do not think you are Algerian at all frankly...I think you are a TROLL

Yep, a troll who may cause some very good relationships to be cancelled because someone reads what she wrote and freaks out.

[sara535 15]

holy SHI**

this thread/debate/trainwreck AGAIN????

[maggieNomar 0]

holy SHI**

this thread/debate/trainwreck AGAIN????

In front of the baby???

[sara535 15]

shes sleeping, she didnt hear....

this time, anyway.

[sarah and hicham 3]

To the woman who was stating we're all adults ok we can all talk about ANYTHING if we're all

adults! If youre a child youre obviously gonna whine and have an attitude about MY subject

if you dont like my post or it didnt portray to you why are you posting on my subject? Why

are any of the women who have attitudes with my post even replying to me? If you think its

rude or doesnt imply to you then GET off my subject this was to help the women who have

those "gut-feelings" Its so much easier helping men in trouble they either listen or reject

it its simple as that! Obviously all the ones who have given a rude reply theyre the ones

with the insecurity and somehow they feel im speaking directly to them because they actually

have those feelings of being scared from their spouses and theyre becomming so defensive. I

didnt post to piss anybody off or get rude responses from ADULTS if you are secure in your

relationship Thank god for you and if youre not im obviously gonna get a rude response about

how you dont like me posting this information up. Wahrania you should have some respect girl

and actually read all my posts before writing an essay to me. Every country has their share

of loser men. Algeria TOO. My posts and advice is strictly to those who are debating to

marry or not if their spouses are rushing them for the visa process for unknown reasons, if

they are scared, going through divorce on here or are thinking about a divorce who knows

maybe some of the people thinking of divorce will look to my signs and find out they have a

keeper? Some girls who took their men as haraam "bad" men will understand they really do

love them. My posts can contribute to both. Men are seriously less complicated than MOST

women I have even have stalkers on here copying and pasting my old posts!...sheeesh!

You have portrayed all mena men as users....there are some great mena men who adore their spouses. You are way off base in your comments to these women and maybe will put doubts into some of these girls needlessly. Algerian women get used alot for papers by the way. The algerian man cant trust where an algerian girl has been if she isnt living with family. Its a disservice what you are doing.

Your writing style drastically changed.Anyone else notice that?I do not think you are Algerian at all frankly...I think you are a TROLL

Gosh Wahrania, how could you possibly turn on YOURSELF like that?

[Ban Hammer 13,490]

[very nice 0]

Godness even my english would not allow me to express my point of view very well ,i have always doubted it ,but what you had to say was kinda chldish,with some racism,you were judgmental,you have predicted stuff that no one can predict,you have talked in a general way,you tried to enter fears and suspicions into people hearts,im am Arab but im not going to defend anything ,bad people are everywhere and nice people are everywhere ,shame on you people here come to get help and support each other ,they dont come here look fo drama,but i think you wanna be called HERO ...so guys let us call her Hero,dang you made me feel sick girl i hope you wont scare Michelle if she would come here this Dang then she may dump my a**......................................Arabs are married people in all over the world,europe tons and tons for years ,US,Canada,i know one Morrocan married to an aussi too ,i have heared of moments of crappiness and isues ,but i have never heared of that big karma you been mentionning in your post,now maybe in ur eyes im a scummer Godness...Geeeeeeeeeeez i better run awat from here ,im not letting Michelle come here .

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

To the woman who was stating we're all adults ok we can all talk about ANYTHING if we're all

adults! If youre a child youre obviously gonna whine and have an attitude about MY subject

if you dont like my post or it didnt portray to you why are you posting on my subject? Why

are any of the women who have attitudes with my post even replying to me? If you think its

rude or doesnt imply to you then GET off my subject this was to help the women who have

those "gut-feelings" Its so much easier helping men in trouble they either listen or reject

it its simple as that! Obviously all the ones who have given a rude reply theyre the ones

with the insecurity and somehow they feel im speaking directly to them because they actually

have those feelings of being scared from their spouses and theyre becomming so defensive. I

didnt post to piss anybody off or get rude responses from ADULTS if you are secure in your

relationship Thank god for you and if youre not im obviously gonna get a rude response about

how you dont like me posting this information up. Wahrania you should have some respect girl

and actually read all my posts before writing an essay to me. Every country has their share

of loser men. Algeria TOO. My posts and advice is strictly to those who are debating to

marry or not if their spouses are rushing them for the visa process for unknown reasons, if

they are scared, going through divorce on here or are thinking about a divorce who knows

maybe some of the people thinking of divorce will look to my signs and find out they have a

keeper? Some girls who took their men as haraam "bad" men will understand they really do

love them. My posts can contribute to both. Men are seriously less complicated than MOST

women I have even have stalkers on here copying and pasting my old posts!...sheeesh!

You have portrayed all mena men as users....there are some great mena men who adore their spouses. You are way off base in your comments to these women and maybe will put doubts into some of these girls needlessly. Algerian women get used alot for papers by the way. The algerian man cant trust where an algerian girl has been if she isnt living with family. Its a disservice what you are doing.

Your writing style drastically changed.Anyone else notice that?I do not think you are Algerian at all frankly...I think you are a TROLL

Gosh Wahrania, how could you possibly turn on YOURSELF like that?

Actually it seems just like what someone who would befriend a woman in crisis would do, archive their pm and pointedly try to break their lives in 2... oh I forgot... thats what you were at this morning...I learned one big thing from what I saw you do this morning......be aware that there are actually truly bad people out there. I hope you have some good things that happen in your life to alleviate whatever grief thats caused you to be such a raving ######....I saw what you pulled this morning in the locked thread with a married couple and you are the kind that would do the unmentionable.. I think someone really did a number on you .... big time. I am so sorry for that and for you.....You really must be a sad little girl....

[JODO 2]

Your writing style drastically changed.Anyone else notice that?I do not think you are Algerian at all frankly...I think you are a TROLL

No the writing style did not drastically change,but the poster tried to mask its writing style. It is true that old and bad habits die hard and I am even more convinced of who this poster is

Edited December 7, 2007 by JODO